Help with New PC Build Component

The 8-pin connector you showed does look to have a different pin layout. The only thing I could say is that you might be using the wrong 8-pin connector. Are you sure you are not using a PCI-E cable. Check if you have any other 8-pin connectors and make sure that flap thing is at the bottom.
 
Yassari,

I think I'm getting too old for this!

I started employement as a system builder around 16 years ago. Now everything just has to be too darn complexed!

You were correct, I was trying with a PCIE cable instead of the 12V cable!

What is the PCIE cable for? Is that for a graphics card?
 
Yassari,

I think I'm getting too old for this!

I started employement as a system builder around 16 years ago. Now everything just has to be too darn complexed!

You were correct, I was trying with a PCIE cable instead of the 12V cable!

What is the PCIE cable for? Is that for a graphics card?

Yes, that is for Graphic's cards. There have been a lot of changes since you first started, which may make it seem complex, but it really isn't that complex. If you have any more questions I am here to help.
 
Thanks buddy!

Now let's power down this Q9450, remove the Bluray drive, install into the P8Z68 and see if it powers up! Not sure where you are located, but in London the weather is baking - circa 27 degrees!

See you on the otherside....

J
 
Thanks buddy!

Now let's power down this Q9450, remove the Bluray drive, install into the P8Z68 and see if it powers up! Not sure where you are located, but in London the weather is baking - circa 27 degrees!

See you on the otherside....

J

I'm located in a Town called Rochdale. It's near Manchester. Did you connect a Graphics Card also, or or you just going to use the integrated video?
 
Yes, I am very much still alive for those of you wondering!

Machine is powered up, all going good so far. Just reinstalling all of my editing programs and transferring data.

I had 1 160GB V. Raptor before and now have the OCZ SSD. Although both are amazingly fast, the SSD transfers files, deletes file/folders at the blink of an eye! OK so the v. Raptor took a few seconds, but the SSD takes NO seconds at all!

I am amazed that it has taken so many years to get a Unix type BIOS looking better. The Asus biod on this board is a pleasure to see/work with.

Once I have the new machine tidy and the side panels on, I will upload some photos.

Yassari - Thank you for all of you hard work, time and efforts. Without your help and indeed the help of others, this build would have taken longer.

And so it is time for my next question! Overclocking.... I want to get to as close as 5Ghz as poss to make my Photoshop and Video editing slick.

Can anyone give me a quick guide on how to start overclocking without frying the CPU? Is there a real easy way to do this with my Asus P8Z68 ?

J
 
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Hi Yassari,

Thanks for that! How can I paste my images directory onto my replies without uploading them to sites like Imageshack?

Also, I used the OC Tool in my BIOS. It seems to shut down the PC and restart a few times to find the best OC setting (whish only took about 30 seconds to complete). Eventually, it changed my settings to the following:

Target CPU Turbo Mode Speed: 4429MHz

Target DRAM Speed: 1648MHz

AI Overclock Tuner: Manual

BCIE/PCIE Frequency: 103.0

Turbo Ratio: By All Cores

By All Cores: 43

Not sure if it has changed anything else.

When I run CPU-Z, it shows the following:

Core Speed: 1648.4MHz

Multiplier: x 16.0

Bus Speed: 103.0MHz

When I launch a file such as a video, these CPU-Z setting change to:

Core Speed: 4430.6MHz

Multiplier: x 43.0

Bus Speed: 103.0MHz

Does the above all look right? If so, why can't the processor stay at 4430.6 all the time instead of this daft power save mode??

Thanks

J
 
Hi Yassari,

Thanks for that! How can I paste my images directory onto my replies without uploading them to sites like Imageshack?

Also, I used the OC Tool in my BIOS. It seems to shut down the PC and restart a few times to find the best OC setting (whish only took about 30 seconds to complete). Eventually, it changed my settings to the following:

Target CPU Turbo Mode Speed: 4429MHz

Target DRAM Speed: 1648MHz

AI Overclock Tuner: Manual

BCIE/PCIE Frequency: 103.0

Turbo Ratio: By All Cores

By All Cores: 43

Not sure if it has changed anything else.

When I run CPU-Z, it shows the following:

Core Speed: 1648.4MHz

Multiplier: x 16.0

Bus Speed: 103.0MHz

When I launch a file such as a video, these CPU-Z setting change to:

Core Speed: 4430.6MHz

Multiplier: x 43.0

Bus Speed: 103.0MHz

Does the above all look right? If so, why can't the processor stay at 4430.6 all the time instead of this daft power save mode??

Thanks

J

You have to upload your photos to a video hosting website and then copy the image url into the "Insert Image" options text box. Or you can use Squish, which is an OC3D tool. However I have never used it and I just use an external photo hosting website and re-size my photos that way.

The reason why the CPU speed changes is because of a feature called "Speedstep" which reduces the speed of the CPU when it is not in heavy usage and speeds up when required. In your case when you played a video, the processor speed was increased accordingly. To ensure that the CPU runs at 4.3 GHz all the time you have to disable Speedstep. You can do this by going on the "AI Tweaker" page and then go to the "CPU Power Management" section and disable the "Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology" option.

The OC Tool is generally not a good idea and the restarting of your PC is probably due to the RAM. You will probably have to change the RAM timings/voltage to get the RAM stable. But first you need to make sure that your OC is stable. I would suggest doing a manual overclock of your CPU first, with the DRAM speed set to Auto or 1333MHz and after you have successfully overclocked your CPU you can then make changes the the RAM.

I posted a short little guide on overclocking on another topic and it is basically what I went through to get a stable overclock. I will post it below for your convenience:

1. I went into my BIOS and went into the "Advanced BIOS" settings by clicking on the option on the top right of the BIOS and choosing the Advanced BIOS option.

2. Next I went to the "AI Tweaker" section and changed the "AI Overclock Tuner" option to Manual.

3. Then I typed in a number corresponding to the overclock I wanted. In my case I typed in 40 in the "By All Cores" section for a 4GHz overclock (BCLK/PEG Frequency * Turbo ration = 100.0 * 40 = 4000MHz = 4Ghz).

4. I left the memory frequency to Auto because I wanted my CPU overclock to be stable first. Alternatively you can set the frequency to 1333MHz, which is the default for most or all DDR3 DIMMS.

5. Next you have to set the voltages. The "CPU Voltage" option has to be set to the "Manual Mode" to allow you to type in what voltage you want to use. If you want a 4.5GHz overclock then use a Turbo Ration of 45 on stage 3 and set the voltage to something like 1.25V.

6. Set the "CPU PLL Voltage" to disabled and boot to Windows.

7. Use prime95 to check if the overclock is stable. I tested my CPU for at least an hour before deeming it stable. If the prime95 test shows no errors then you can assume the overclock is stable. You can then repeat step 5 until you have a stable overclock at the lowest possible voltage. I ran prime95 for about 10 hours after I had finished overclocking to ensure the stability further.

EDIT: If you do the above (which is recommended) then change the BCIE/PCIE Frequency to what it was originally (100). If it was already set to 103, then you should probably leave it.
 
You have to upload your photos to a video hosting website and then copy the image url into the "Insert Image" options text box. Or you can use Squish, which is an OC3D tool. However I have never used it and I just use an external photo hosting website and re-size my photos that way.

The reason why the CPU speed changes is because of a feature called "Speedstep" which reduces the speed of the CPU when it is not in heavy usage and speeds up when required. In your case when you played a video, the processor speed was increased accordingly. To ensure that the CPU runs at 4.3 GHz all the time you have to disable Speedstep. You can do this by going on the "AI Tweaker" page and then go to the "CPU Power Management" section and disable the "Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology" option.

The OC Tool is generally not a good idea and the restarting of your PC is probably due to the RAM. You will probably have to change the RAM timings/voltage to get the RAM stable. But first you need to make sure that your OC is stable. I would suggest doing a manual overclock of your CPU first, with the DRAM speed set to Auto or 1333MHz and after you have successfully overclocked your CPU you can then make changes the the RAM.

I posted a short little guide on overclocking on another topic and it is basically what I went through to get a stable overclock. I will post it below for your convenience:

1. I went into my BIOS and went into the "Advanced BIOS" settings by clicking on the option on the top right of the BIOS and choosing the Advanced BIOS option.

2. Next I went to the "AI Tweaker" section and changed the "AI Overclock Tuner" option to Manual.

3. Then I typed in a number corresponding to the overclock I wanted. In my case I typed in 40 in the "By All Cores" section for a 4GHz overclock (BCLK/PEG Frequency * Turbo ration = 100.0 * 40 = 4000MHz = 4Ghz).

4. I left the memory frequency to Auto because I wanted my CPU overclock to be stable first. Alternatively you can set the frequency to 1333MHz, which is the default for most or all DDR3 DIMMS.

5. Next you have to set the voltages. The "CPU Voltage" option has to be set to the "Manual Mode" to allow you to type in what voltage you want to use. If you want a 4.5GHz overclock then use a Turbo Ration of 45 on stage 3 and set the voltage to something like 1.25V.

6. Set the "CPU PLL Voltage" to disabled and boot to Windows.

7. Use prime95 to check if the overclock is stable. I tested my CPU for at least an hour before deeming it stable. If the prime95 test shows no errors then you can assume the overclock is stable. You can then repeat step 5 until you have a stable overclock at the lowest possible voltage. I ran prime95 for about 10 hours after I had finished overclocking to ensure the stability further.

EDIT: If you do the above (which is recommended) then change the BCIE/PCIE Frequency to what it was originally (100). If it was already set to 103, then you should probably leave it.

Oh come on!! Why couldn't I have had this guide when I first did this?! It would've been so much easier.

Great job with the writeup.
 
Oh come on!! Why couldn't I have had this guide when I first did this?! It would've been so much easier.

Great job with the writeup.

Thanks dude. I just wrote down what I did. The above is what I did to get my OC.

I read a few guides beforehand though and if you search for them you can find some excellent guides.
 
Hi Yassari,

Thanks once again! I'll give this a go later today.

Do Overclockers general disable the Enhanhed Intel Speedstep Technology option? I see no reason why not to have the CPU running as fast as it can/should all of the time? I mean I never dimm the lights everytime I leave my office to get a drink!

J
 
Hi Yassari,

Thanks once again! I'll give this a go later today.

Do Overclockers general disable the Enhanhed Intel Speedstep Technology option? I see no reason why not to have the CPU running as fast as it can/should all of the time? I mean I never dimm the lights everytime I leave my office to get a drink!

J

No worries mate. As for your question: it just depends on whether or not you want to save energy. I have it enabled as I don't need my CPU fan spinning at 100% when I'm not doing anything intensive. Also make sure that the voltage you use for your CPU overclock is below 1.38/1.4 V, which is the recommended maximum.
 
Hi Yassari,

Using these automatic OC'd settings:

Target CPU Turbo Mode Speed: 4429MHz

Target DRAM Speed: 1648MHz

AI Overclock Tuner: Manual

BCIE/PCIE Frequency: 103.0

Turbo Ratio: By All Cores

By All Cores: 43

I started CPU-Z, Prime95 and RealTemp. I left them runnong for just over 30 minutes. At the start of the test, I had the following Temps in Real Temp:

57 - 65 - 63 - 63

At the end of the test (whilst it was still running), I had the following in Real Temp:

60 - 68 - 66 - 64

I notice that the Core Voltage in CPU-Z is bouncing around 1.304 - 1.312. although that's prob normal.

So my questions are:

1. How did the above test go? Everything look OK?

2. What next? Leave it, tweak it, inrease it???

Thanks

J
 
Hi Yassari,

Using these automatic OC'd settings:

Target CPU Turbo Mode Speed: 4429MHz

Target DRAM Speed: 1648MHz

AI Overclock Tuner: Manual

BCIE/PCIE Frequency: 103.0

Turbo Ratio: By All Cores

By All Cores: 43

I started CPU-X, Prime95 and RealTemp. I left them runnong for just over 30 minutes. At the start of the test, I had the following Temps in Real Temp:

57 - 65 - 63 - 63

At the end of the test (whilst it was still running), I had the following in Real Temp:

60 - 68 - 66 - 64

I notice that the Core Voltage in CPU-Z is bouncing around 1.304 - 1.312. although that's prob normal.

So my questions are:

1. How did the above test go? Everything look OK?

2. What next? Leave it, tweak it, inrease it???

Thanks

J

The temps look fine to me. And the voltage bounce is normal. Is the voltage setting in the BIOS set to auto? If it is, then you should manually change it to 1.304 because it seems stable at those volts.

EDIT: I ran prime95 for 10 hours as a precaution, although testing for 1 or 2 hours should reveal any problems, if they exist.
 
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