NEW Z170 Build, need lots of advice

[axe_par4]

My current specs are (got in 2013)
i3 530 2.93Ghz
DP55WB Intel Motherboard
4GB Transcend 1333Mhz
XFX GT 240 512MB (A GPU that doesn't matter)
Hitachi 500GB 7.2k rpm
Seagate 160GB 7.2k rpm
VIP GOLD 500W
Local PC case and Fronttech keyboard mouse combo cheapest possible.
It runs all except DirectX 11 things. Recently completed GTA V with few glitches because of GPU and RAM but I'll play it again on new rig.

I'm planning to upgrade to following things. I mean building from the scratch.
PC Case : Deepcool Kendomen Red mid-Tower (already arrived 2 days ago)
i5 6600k
MSI Z170A GAMING M3
MSI GTX 1060 X6
G SKILLS RIPJAWS V 16 GB (8GBx2 or 4GB x4)
ADATA Pro SP900 128GB 2280 M.2 (NGFF) for OS
PNY CS1311 240GB SSD
Intel BXST13X Thermal Solution
Antec EDGE 750W
Keyboard & Mouse combo gaming edition

I'll be adding two 4TB just for storage
+ WD 320GB PURPLE FOR MIRRORING personal Data
+ 500GB SATA for backup purpose.
My current 10 USB ports are always plugged in including 2 external HDD, One Cam, 1 bluetooth, 1 wifi, 1 keyboard, 1 mouse, 1 my mobile, 1 USB powered mini logitech speakers and one is every now and then busy with my wife's MI pad.

I'm planning to buy this rig in Dec-Jan. I want to admit that I'm in Love with MSI.
I needed help with my Complete rig as I'm no expert. I was extremely confused about my Motherboard as I need nearly 10 ports on my Motherboard everyday. My current case's front USB are all rusty and creates heat with anything plugged in (already damaged one mini wifi +couple of card reader). So if anyone can suggest a better Motherboard then they are heartily welcomed but I'll be having 6HDD, 1SSD + 1M.2 not to forget my DVD drive.
I also needed advice on a modular PSU, I selected RM750X first but then this Antec edge caught my eye as Corsair RMX is costly. Already took step on PC Case with Deepcool Kendomen and an intex 5.1 recently gifted by Dad but I was planning for Altec Lansing leave it.
I'm confused about RAM and its frequency, I chose G Skill RJV over Corsair Dominatior. Please suggest which one is best. And I need detailed suggestion over PSU, I calculated on 3-4 websites including MSI and some overclock extreme I think. They show that 700W is recommended. I'll be attaching 6HDD, 1 SSD, 1m.2, 1 GTX 1060 6GB, 1 DVD drive and BXST13X CPU cooler + lots of USB.
So I need suggestion about RAM, PSU, Motherboard as well as both SSDs (i selected these SSD because of their review and low cost)
I also wanted to ask that after buying Intel BXST13X how to install it as my case already holds 5 Fans. That's it. I've searched and read lots of forum over last 10 days nearly 3-4 hours everyday, I've acquired a lot of knowledge about all this but I'm still a noob and no expert.
My budget is 1200-1300 USD or 80k INR. Half of it is a loan provided by Govt as a computer package and rest is Credit Card. I'm not any rich guy but I'm earning lowest among my friends and family i.e. below average. I always wanted a gaming PC right from my childhood and so I bought this current specs 2nd hand at very reasonable price. My actual spec was pretty low with an Intel 1.5 P4, 256 MB RAM, 500Gigs HDD with 32 MB VRAM (2002-2013) and unable to play NFS Underground 1, Halo, Hulk like games. Now my wife has given green Go for new PC. Oh my God she loves me more than I do and always calls my Desktop as my first wife. This is all I don't want to stretch this thread anymore. Sorry for my English and I don't have much forum posting experience.
Thank You guys. I liked your YouTube videos and saw that this overclock 3D can solve my looping confusion of PSU, RAM N MOBO. All suggestion and recommendations are heartly welcome.

 

[Doomslayer]

To me the system is fine but i would look at getting a different PSU something like the EVGA Supernova G2 there made bye Superflower and the best non branded Superflower PSU on the market.

 

[axe_par4]

To me the system is fine but i would look at getting a different PSU something like the EVGA Supernova G2 there made bye Superflower and the best non branded Superflower PSU on the market.

Straight No, Sorry. EVGA SUPERNOVA G2 is off 25k, whoa more costlier than anything on my list. Processor is costing me 19k and GPU for 24k, Antec Edge 750W is of 8.5k-9.5k.

Antec
http://www.antecindia.com/single_product.php?cat=14&sub_category_id=329&product_id=26613

EVGA
http://www.amazon.in/EVGA-SuperNOVA-80PLUS-Certified-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW

It is costing the budget by 25%, no way affordable.

 

[Wraith]

The one part of your system you really don't want to be tight on is the PSU, trust me I've learned the hard way going cheap with the power delivery and it cost me my rig.

 

[tinytomlogan]

You might want to wait till January.....

 

[axe_par4]

You might want to wait till January.....

I've no problem. I can wait till April but the thing is that if I apply to govt with specs tomorrow they'll already take feb-mar to process computer fund. If I apply in Jan then it'll take April-May.

But why are you asking me to wait? Is it Kabylake? I was waiting for Cannonlake but saw that it'll be released in 2nd half of 2017, it can be late 2017 or early 2018.
No matter what we buy it'll be outdated with time.

Please check the specs are they fine?


http://www.primeabgb.com/online-pri...-edg-750-750w-80-plus-gold-power-supply-smps/
It shows 8.5k means 125 USD

whereas

http://www.amazon.in/EVGA-SuperNOVA-80PLUS-Certified-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW
is available at 366 USD

I've been using VIP GOLD 500W from 2011 & never had any problem.
Some users on this forum are suggesting that I should look for better PSU but I've already topped my budget where initially it was 75k now its 90k. Changing PSU is not affordable. The problem is with availablity and only Amazon is a good provider in my country but it sells extremely over priced. is PSU fine? Do I really need 750W? and what about RAM 8gx2 or 4gx4? which frequency?

Its not a cheap but I seen its review before selecting it
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/09/02/antec_edge_750w_power_supply_review/

my earlier selection was RM750X which was also out of budget.
and then there is Circle 700 raw which is what I call cheap
https://www.snapdeal.com/product/circle-raw-power-700w-apfc/625341783411

Super-Flower is not available in my country.
It took lots of days to search through entire net and reading 10s of pages of reviews and comparison of each part I have selected except the MSI GPU.
Thanks for replying. I will work on PSU but need more suggestions. 750W is more than enough or its OK?
PSU Calculators show 590-625W for my usage where I selected few extra things to be sure.

 

[NeverBackDown]

I'm pretty sure he's implying wait till January because AMDs Zen is rumored to be releasing on January 17.

If you want to get a better quality PSU, drop the 2nd ssd. You already one for the OS, and plenty of other storage space.

 

[Doomslayer]

Straight No, Sorry. EVGA SUPERNOVA G2 is off 25k, whoa more costlier than anything on my list. Processor is costing me 19k and GPU for 24k, Antec Edge 750W is of 8.5k-9.5k.

Antec
http://www.antecindia.com/single_product.php?cat=14&sub_category_id=329&product_id=26613

EVGA
http://www.amazon.in/EVGA-SuperNOVA-80PLUS-Certified-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW

It is costing the budget by 25%, no way affordable.

Never ever skimp of the PSU's the only other PSU's i would look at apart from EVGA is SilverStone.

The reason why the EVGA is higher in price is cause they use better parts in the PSU.
Also if your not aware of this with EVGA PSU's it comes with a 10 year warranty but to get the 10 year warranty you have to join up to the EVGA website.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

Another vote for a solid PSU. You can keep it for many years without failure (PSU's are often warrantied for 10 years) and reuse it over and over again as you upgrade your other components. It really is the backbone and the analogy is fitting.

I highly suggest waiting until AMD's Zen and Intel's Kaby Lake come out before investing in a motherboard and CPU. That should only be a couple of months, which you said you have no problem doing. Even if Kaby Lake is not a tangible upgrade over Skylake and Zen is not what it's hyped up to be, you will still have more options. A 6600K and a Z170 motherboard might be found for even cheaper as shops try to liquidate old stock and adopters of new technology sell their old gear.

The 1060 is a crackin' GPU and probably won't drop in price any time soon, at least not substantially. If you were looking at the 1070 or 1080 then I'd suggest waiting until AMD's 490 and Vega GPU's come out, but the 1060 already has its competitor. There are musings of a Pascal refresh, but I don't know how that will affect the midrange 1060 GPU.

Motherboards are usually not too hard to distinguish and choose. Find the one that has the features you want, has the aesthetics you like, then read reviews for it. They don't have to be glowing for it to suffice. As I said, and as you said, January/February will be the time a lot of people will be upgrading. You'll have a vast array to motherboards to choose from including Z170, Z270, and AMD's X370 and its lower equivalents. You should have no problem finding a motherboard. Just read the specifications and reviews of the boards that you like the look of. If you like MSI, look for MSI boards. Also, choosing a motherboard based on BIOS experience is a sound idea. I didn't like ASRock BIOS so I'm on MSI now.

The RAM you selected is fine. Do not worry about RAM timings or frequency. They only matter in specific instances and aren't worth worrying about unless your budget has accounted for very high-end components like 6/8 core CPU's and multi-GPU's configurations.

Is your 240GB SSD for games?

 

[NeverBackDown]

Is there a specific website you are using to gather the parts? And budget/currency?
If so, please tell us and link it. We could all get builds put together for you and have a full list of all the hardware so you can see what we think instead of just suggestions. Just list certain necessary things too like storage space needed, cases you already have, or if you need a monitor, etc

 

[axe_par4]

https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/Vkjgqk

Suggestion and recommendation please
PSU budget is 150$ (Total budget is 1200-1400$)

Dropped Antec EDGE 750 and Deepcool Gamerstorm Maelstorm 120 (reviews are bad - age is very low)

Everythings is decided except RAM and PSU
The suggested EVGA PSU is way beyond the budget and is sold nearly twice the original price in India.

Please help me decide a good PSU, my current choice is RM750X

My system will be consist of following h/w

1)Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (as tinytomlogan suggested to wait for a month, this is just launched processor - I still have time till 1st week of March before I finalize the list and hand over it to a retailer)

2)Corsair H60 74.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (need recommendation on CPU cooler, choices are Welcomed)

3)MSI Z170A GAMING M3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (I think this one is fine and I chose it at the very beginning of this build)

4)G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (still confused about freq and channel 16gigs x1 / 8gigs x2 or 4gigs x4?)

5)Samsung 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (any suggestion or samsung evo is good?)

6)MSI GeForce GTX 1060 X 6G VR Ready (no changes needed)

7)Corsair RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (confused, should I go with this one? offers 7 yrs warranty)

8)Lite-On iHAS224-06 DVD/CD Writer (any make and model, I just need one which can stay in dusty environment)

9)about 8-10 USB plugged-in (as mentioned in OP)

10)Total 6 storage device:
i) M.2 SSD for OS
ii) SATA SSD for apps n programs
iii) Personal mirror RAID 1 (Disk A) Laptop HDD
iv) Personal mirror RAID 1 (Disk B) Laptop HDD
v) 4TB Desktop HDD
vi) 4TB Desktop HDD

If I'm missing something please let me know. And I'm worried about PSU it really shatters the complete build budget.

Thanks to all forum members who helped me think and decide componenets on my very first complete build.

 

[axe_par4]

Is there a specific website you are using to gather the parts? And budget/currency?
If so, please tell us and link it. We could all get builds put together for you and have a full list of all the hardware so you can see what we think instead of just suggestions. Just list certain necessary things too like storage space needed, cases you already have, or if you need a monitor, etc

Thanks a lot for offering this much help. I was away for sometime. I hardly get to sit on my PC (about half an hour a day). I have posted a message please check it everything is fine.

 

[axe_par4]

Prices are down now. Please tell me which one?
My Vendor is asking me for choices.

http://imgur.com/a/ssHJr

 

[NeverBackDown]

I'd get the corsair. It's the cheapest and 750watt is more than enough for a GTX 1060 and i5

 

[axe_par4]

Finally i bought my RIG:

i5 7600K
MSI Z270 GAMING PRO
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB 2400MHz
Corsair H80i v2
Antec EDGE 750W GOLD
with Deepcool Kendomen

next I'll be buying
Samsung M.2 EVO 960 PRO 240GB
MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X
&
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB 2400MHz

But my question is:-
This motherboard MSI Z270 GAMING PRO have 6 SATA ports
and I have all of them busy like
SATA 1 : Samsung 750 EVO 240GB SSD
SATA 2 : Seagate 4TB
SATA 3 : Seagate 2TB (Mirror)
SATA 4 : Seagate 2TB (Mirror)
SATA 5 : Hitachi 500GB
SATA 6 : WD 160GB

So when I install M.2 SSD what will happen? I read in the manual that some ports will be unavailable. I got confused and DO NOT UNDERSTAND. Can someone EXPLAIN??
What the h* is this? If I connect M.2 then what will happen NEXT?

 

[hmmblah]

Finally i bought my RIG:

i5 7600K
MSI Z270 GAMING PRO
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB 2400MHz
Corsair H80i v2
Antec EDGE 750W GOLD
with Deepcool Kendomen

next I'll be buying
Samsung M.2 EVO 960 PRO 240GB
MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X
&
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB 2400MHz

But my question is:-
This motherboard MSI Z270 GAMING PRO have 6 SATA ports
and I have all of them busy like
SATA 1 : Samsung 750 EVO 240GB SSD
SATA 2 : Seagate 4TB
SATA 3 : Seagate 2TB (Mirror)
SATA 4 : Seagate 2TB (Mirror)
SATA 5 : Hitachi 500GB
SATA 6 : WD 160GB

So when I install M.2 SSD what will happen? I read in the manual that some ports will be unavailable. I got confused and DO NOT UNDERSTAND. Can someone EXPLAIN??
What the h* is this? If I connect M.2 then what will happen NEXT?

The manual doesn't show what happens if you only use 1 M.2 slot, but the way it reads is you will not be able to use SATA5 and SATA6 with a PCIe M.2 drive installed.

 

[axe_par4]

The manual doesn't show what happens if you only use 1 M.2 slot, but the way it reads is you will not be able to use SATA5 and SATA6 with a PCIe M.2 drive installed.

I'm still confused. I, uh, SORRY. I only want to use Ssmsung 960 PRO/EVO 240GB (PCIe 3.0 x4, NVMe 1.2). I am not an expert and thats why I take time to understand few things.

 

[hmmblah]

I'm still confused. I, uh, SORRY. I only want to use Ssmsung 960 PRO/EVO 240GB (PCIe 3.0 x4, NVMe 1.2). I am not an expert and thats why I take time to understand few things.

When you use that Samsung 960 PRO/EVO 240GB (PCIe 3.0 x4, NVMe 1.2) it will turn off SATA ports 5 & 6. Your Hitachi 500GB and WD 160GB will no longer work on those ports.

 

[axe_par4]

When you use that Samsung 960 PRO/EVO 240GB (PCIe 3.0 x4, NVMe 1.2) it will turn off SATA ports 5 & 6. Your Hitachi 500GB and WD 160GB will no longer work on those ports.

Now clear. Thanks a lot hmmblah. But is there any solution?
Or should I drop the plan of M.2 SSD and use this SSD I have now (Samsung 750 EVO 240GB ). I thought I will buy a M.2 SSD and use it for OS=00= as they are fast and other SATA SSD for Installing Games.

 

[hmmblah]

Now clear. Thanks a lot hmmblah. But is there any solution?
Or should I drop the plan of M.2 SSD and use this SSD I have now (Samsung 750 EVO 240GB ). I thought I will buy a M.2 SSD and use it for OS=00= as they are fast and other SATA SSD for Installing Games.

Personally, I'd stop using the Hitachi 500GB and the WD 160GB drives in favor of the M.2 drive. If you really need the space hold out for a larger M.2 SSD when the budget allows.