Projekt Suma Kuhl 2013
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JayCobs
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JayCobs
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Here you can see the need for more than 2 USB ports. Today I'm going to throw some zip ties at this nest!
Feronix
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Thanks!
Dude, use the multi quote button
Lovely mod! I don't like the 800D out of the box but you've done some pretty cool things with it! 2x 480s is... well... EPIC
alpenwasser
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JayCobs
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I think firefox is preventing it. Oh well. :huh:
Cleaned up the wiring a bit:
Question 1:
I spoke with a fish store owner today asking if I need a biocide in my loop. After explaining my rig [owner new nothing of liquid cooled computers, and found it fascinating] he asked if it is in direct light. I replied the only light that hits it is from the ceiling fan. No direct natural light. He told me I don't need anything in my loop to prevent bacteria, etc., and distilled water should be fine on it's own. Now, coming from some one with a store full of running aquariums I want to believe him. However EVERYTHING I read on line regarding a loop(s) state the opposite. So, do I NEED to add something to my loop or not?
Question 2:
I'm not sure if my math is right. [I suck at math. I'm one of those "measure fifteen times - 2nd guess - meausure 3 more times - then cut" types] If running a CPU block, 2 GPU blocks, 3 480mm radiators, and a Bitspower 150 res my calculations show it is super expensive to run say Mayhems pastel white for example.
I am ball parkin' a gallon of fluid needed because I am currently using a half gallon of fluid with out 2 480mm rads, GPU, and CPU block installed
Mayhems Pastel White Concentrate $21.95
250mL makes 750mL of fluid
1 gallon = 3785.41mL
3785.41mL / 750mL = 5.04721333333333
5.04721333333333 * $21.95 = (rounded up) $111.00
Am I right and it's that expensive to run Mayhems in my completed rig IF only 1 gallon of fluid is required? It seems too expensive which is why I am uber-second guessing my math.
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alpenwasser
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Well, almost all algae that are commonly encountered use photosynthesis. In
order for them to survive they need
- nutrients (mostly nitrogen and some other stuff)
- sunlight (or artificial light of similar quality)
- not too many poisons in their environment
If they don't have that in your loop, they simply cannot, by the very fucking
laws of biology, survive. So even if they have light, how the hell will the nutrients
get into your loop if all you're using is distilled water? I think most gunk people
encounter in their loops that they think are algae is actually just dirt, from
whichever source. I have never in 12 years of reading on W/C seen any
actual algae (you know, the green stuff) in anybody's loop. You might
get some bacterial growth, but even that would be tricky without having
nutrients in the loop. Even bacteria need something to feed on (possibly
the PVC tubing? Not sure about that).
And back in the early 2000's there was a lot more ghetto modding going on
and even then I never saw something like that. I would say it's possible if
you're running normal water.
Water cooling people are not exactly experts on the biology of water habitats
(neither am I, I'm just going on my high school bio and wikipedia here :lol: ),
and I think somehow a lot of misinformation has just spread and, unfortunately,
stuck over the years in the community.
A guy who runs an aquarium shop should (I would hope) be a lot more
knowledgeable about what sort of stuff can grow in water under what
conditions. Keeping fish and plants alive in a water tank is a lot trickier
than cooling a few bits of silicon with metal bits that are flooded by
water imho.
I think asking that guy about this was actually a great idea!
Besides: What's the worst that could happen? You get some algae in
your loop, big fucking whoop-de-doo. Empty loop, run some cleaning
fluid through it, fill it up and you're golden again.
What is a concern though is corrosion, but that's a whole other topic
and I'm really too tired to write a dissertation on that now (I actually
had to take a semester of chemistry in college that dealt with that
specific issue among others because you don't want to be building
machines that fall apart from corrosion in mechanical engineering
).Maybe later :lol:
It is very late here (well, 4:50 am
), so the reliability of my internalcalculator is dubious at best. But that does not sound extremely unrealistic.
Good night, and good luck.
-aw
alpenwasser
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I would like to know the short story when you get a chance!
Alright, I'll put something together. But I want to do it properly (my knowledge
is a bit hazy after almost 3 years of no chem
), so it will probably take me afew days.
JayCobs
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Lystfiskern
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Not to be negative, but I support the poeple that dislikes bold text. No need to be offended JayCobs - thats just the way it is for all poeople in here.
JayCobs
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Offended?? Far from it. Hence the confused emoticon. Confused because I don't see the difference between bold and non-bold. Bold being "annoying", or as one member put it "raping my eyes" escapes me. I don't have to understand it to comply. However, I hope this doesn't lead to more "censorship" request. First it is the bold, then it's the font, size, etc...:huh:
Lystfiskern
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I hear ya. Not a fan of censorship myself, but turn it around, what if everybody were allowed, to "play freely" with fonts, colours,GIFs and the likes?
This forum would be totally unreadable and look like something constructed by kindergarden-kids a happy afternoon.
So think of it more in the interest of keeping this forum neat and readable.
This forum would be totally unreadable and look like something constructed by kindergarden-kids a happy afternoon.
So think of it more in the interest of keeping this forum neat and readable.
alpenwasser
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While it does not bother me enough to have said anything, I would not be
unappreciative of a switch to normal font face. I have noticed the arial black
is a bit more strenuous to read tbh. Some people seem to be more susceptible
to this than others, which if probably why you don't feel any difference and
others do so severely.
Not a fan of censorship either, and from what I can tell, these forums are
very liberal about most things, except in the FS&W, where it is in everybody's
interest to run a tight ship.
So: Thanks.
*shudders at the memories of 90's websites*
JayCobs
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UPDATE!
Tuesday I received a Bitspower Adjustable Aqua Link Pipe II and a Heatkiller GPU-X Series Dual Link Bridge in the mail. With this equipment received I was able to get SkyNET back to full strength. I also remembered to install my drain spout this time. Initially I didn't and draining the loop was a dangerously slow process! :cussing:
Installing the block was a breeze.
Pay day is Thursday and this weekend I will be hunting for some thicker aluminum sheets to get the removable MoBo tray perfect.
Stay tuned...
Tuesday I received a Bitspower Adjustable Aqua Link Pipe II and a Heatkiller GPU-X Series Dual Link Bridge in the mail. With this equipment received I was able to get SkyNET back to full strength. I also remembered to install my drain spout this time. Initially I didn't and draining the loop was a dangerously slow process! :cussing:
Installing the block was a breeze.
Pay day is Thursday and this weekend I will be hunting for some thicker aluminum sheets to get the removable MoBo tray perfect.
Stay tuned...
Lystfiskern
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what can I say.......... yummi, me likey
pcjunkie429
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May I ask why you have the GPUs under "real" watercooling, whilst the CPU is still using an Antec AIO unit? Y u no CPU block? :lol:
:lol:
JayCobs
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Y u no CPU block?
The CPU block is part of Phase 2. Pictured above is the completion of Phase 1. Me no bread for CPU block!
The Orange One
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Looks great so far mate!
