Conroe

[chris_ah1]

Initial Conroe benches:

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=4843

iTunes 6.0.1.3

AMD Athlon FX60 @ 2.8GHz – 102 Seconds

Intel Conroe @ 2.67GHz – 87 Seconds

Windows Media Video 9 (Advanced Profile)

AMD Athlon FX60 @ 2.8GHz – 1 Minute 15 Seconds

Intel Conroe @ 2.67GHz – 1 Minute 6 Seconds

XMPEG

AMD Athlon FX60 @ 2.8GHz – 1 Minute 15 Seconds

Intel Conroe @ 2.67GHz – 1 Minute 6 Seconds

Unreal Tournament 2004 Bot Patch (1024*768)

AMD Athlon FX60 @ 2.8GHz – 159.64fps

Intel Conroe @ 2.67GHz – 186.95fps

Quake 4 – Time Demo (1024*768)

AMD Athlon FX60 @ 2.8GHz – 226.4fps

Intel Conroe @ 2.67GHz – 278.1fps

Half Life Source (pbca_lost_coast) – Time Demo (1024*768)

AMD Athlon FX60 @ 2.8GHz – 112.67fps

Intel Conroe @ 2.67GHz – 140.02.1fps

FEAR (CPU Max, Graphics – Medium) – Time Demo (1024*768) – Average FPS.

AMD Athlon FX60 @ 2.8GHz – 193fps

Intel Conroe @ 2.67GHz – 281fps

PCMark

AMD Athlon FX60 @ 2.8GHz – Memory 4468

Intel Conroe @ 2.67GHz – Memory 5504

AMD Athlon FX60 @ 2.8GHz – CPU - 5548

Intel Conroe @ 2.67GHz – CPU - 6755

The force is indeed strong with the dark side Master AMD - and with 130Mhz less, and with it not running at the full memory speed either.

More marketing hype from quick and dirty benches that are meaningless? Or a true indicator that Conroe will be the very thing Intel needs to get you guys to switch?

For the first time in what - three years+? we have a real performance alternative to AMD.

 

[stocky]

Benchies looking very impressive! - I dunno about three years, the old 30 capper Northy's were always good, especially at over 4GHz! That was only a couple of years ago?

Although I have always spent most of my time with the dark side, I've only just had a play with a X2 4800 and a couple of Optys

 

[maverik-sg1]

I am telling ya straight - if those figures are correct they'll be a mass exodus over to that platform fairly shaprish as all the indications are AMD will not be able to compete until they go 65nm.

Having said that, the power draw of teh Intel package is quiet high in comparision on same tech node (90nm Intel are more power hungry than AMD) - is it fair to assume that the same will be the case when AMD go to the same size core (65nm).

Interesting though - that the 975 chipset can run crossfire, leaves us SLI boys out in the cold a bit.

Not sure when the FX53 came out stocky mate - but thats when the previous battle was won.

Time to take a step back and let the games begin.

My upgrade roadmap remains - possibly two GPU upgrades then wait until the 65nm AMD chips come out before I change platform.

Mav

 

[Highland3r]

Seen similar benchies elsewhere (unless they are the same numbers, just shared about a little)

Would think they _are_ real, Conroe (afaik) marks intels departure from Netburst. These chips are, basically Yonah for the desktop. As everyone knows (if you dont where have you been!) Yonah/Dothan utterly pwn for 3d but are a bit crappy in other areas. These chips should address the crap areas of the artitecture and bring it to the market in a nice Desktop ready state.

Things are looking good for these chips right now, desktop versions of Yonah should be awsome, especially without the power saving features and crap FSB's.

Amd are going to have a run for their money, Intel's already got them on the 3d side of things with Dothan/Yonah (although these arent really hugely desktop friendly and can be a bit sucky for a 24/7 rig)

AMD's only saving grace is the onboard memory controller (and whatever else they decide to pu on-die)

AM2 looks to be a bit of a flop, and if the move to 0.65nm is only a die shrink clockspeed alone might not be enough...

 

[Vrykyl]

yup - intel finally ditched the p4 architecture and went with dothan style desktop chips - shorter internal pipeline and the increased performance to match I really do hope that these work in current i975 mobos without needing alteration...if they do im soooo having one!

Mav - intel are now happily chucking out chips at 65nm...which is what these conroe chips are - and the power drain is considerably less than the 90nm chips...conroe is supposed to be even better. Amd are in trouble me feels! and 975 can do SLI as well as xfire...nvidia have just locked intel chipsets out of their driver cos theyre money grabbing buggers.

 

[K404]

AM2 looks like a waste- the OC ability to start with will be low on all but the unlocked chips due to the HTT limits (how many chips can do >400HTT right now?) and coldbugs are likely to be bad. The only good point I can see is the high frequency RAM, but then 939 users could just go buy some TCC5 or similar.

the choices: stay 939, or move to Yonah/Conroe. Thats it, IMHO.

 

[boardy]

I disagree about the coldbug. Rumour has it the new memory controllers are already in use on DDR1 chips (new venice). I don't see any of these bugging out as mav found with his 3000+.

Boardy

 

[K404]

I think the B2,3,7 series of memory controllers will be used a lot as they can do high HTT above ambient, but coldbug badly. Time will tell I guess. Would AMD have to do another revision of the meory controller for DDR2 RAM?

EDITED: B series arent the problem, B(number) are (for coldbug). Sorry

 

[Highland3r]

AM2 looks like a waste- the OC ability to start with will be low on all but the unlocked chips due to the HTT limits (how many chips can do >400HTT right now?) and coldbugs are likely to be bad. The only good point I can see is the high frequency RAM, but then 939 users could just go buy some TCC5 or similar.

the choices: stay 939, or move to Yonah/Conroe. Thats it, IMHO.

Could just run a hefty memory divider 1:2 to get the ram up a bit.. HTT limits could also be chipset related maybe?

Agree on the choices though, AM2 seems a bit of a waste, and the coldbugs seem to be getting worse (look at the FX60!!) rather than better with the newer generation/revision