What to do about 1080 TI???

[the1320god]

I'm going to get 2 of these but I've never got the straight from Nvidia( always had aftermarket per say) is there any differance in them? 1080s overclock well so I'm sure the TI will. I'll be watercooling the cards so the stock air coolers don't matter. Is there any reason I should wait for one from say Asus or MSI? Do you guys think they will get that much more if any OC? Thanks.

 

[Dicehunter]

I'm going to get 2 of these but I've never got the straight from Nvidia( always had aftermarket per say) is there any differance in them? 1080s overclock well so I'm sure the TI will. I'll be watercooling the cards so the stock air coolers don't matter. Is there any reason I should wait for one from say Asus or MSI? Do you guys think they will get that much more if any OC? Thanks.

The reference cards are all made the same, Plus none of the chips are really binned, If you are getting reference then just find the cheapest

 

[the1320god]

The reference cards are all made the same, Plus none of the chips are really binned, If you are getting reference then just find the cheapest

looks like the ek waterblock for the titan will fit these as well, so i guess I'm not going to wait. Well as soon as I'm able to pre-order.... Thanks for the info!

 

[Dicehunter]

looks like the ek waterblock for the titan will fit these as well, so i guess I'm not going to wait. Well as soon as I'm able to pre-order.... Thanks for the info!

No problem

 

[othertomperson]

I would look to the Titan X and judge the 1080 Ti as being essentially the same.

Comparing spec for spec, the GPU is identical but for an extremely marginal overclock. In fact the only thing that seems to have changed is the memory. it has 1GB less vram (which implies that they cut it down by disabling a memory controller, like they did with GM204). It also has a smaller bus, but at a higher speed to give almost identical memory bandwidth.

It might be that the 1080 Ti is higher binned than the Titan X which would result GPUboost 3.0 taking it further at "stock" (because if not claiming that this is a better gaming card than the Titan X based only on a 30 MHz overclock would be absurd).

I'm a bit disappointed. On the one hand I thought it might be a further cut down Titan X, but it isn't, but on the other I had hoped for a full 3840 CUDA core GP102, and this clearly isn't it. I guess Nvidia just don't consider Vega to be a threat.

So yeah tl;dr pretend it's a £700 Titan X and you're not going to be too far off.

 

[the1320god]

I would look to the Titan X and judge the 1080 Ti as being essentially the same.

Comparing spec for spec, the GPU is identical but for an extremely marginal overclock. In fact the only thing that seems to have changed is the memory. it has 1GB less vram (which implies that they cut it down by disabling a memory controller, like they did with GM204). It also has a smaller bus, but at a higher speed to give almost identical memory bandwidth.

It might be that the 1080 Ti is higher binned than the Titan X which would result GPUboost 3.0 taking it further at "stock" (because if not claiming that this is a better gaming card than the Titan X based only on a 30 MHz overclock would be absurd).

I'm a bit disappointed. On the one hand I thought it might be a further cut down Titan X, but it isn't, but on the other I had hoped for a full 3840 CUDA core GP102, and this clearly isn't it. I guess Nvidia just don't consider Vega to be a threat.

So yeah tl;dr pretend it's a £700 Titan X and you're not going to be too far off.

Yeah I understand this, but my question was in reference to the reference design. I've never owned on... Always got an aftermarket. I still haven't been able to pre order lol. Logged in under the uk on nvidia site and at the time it was available but not now. No luck in the states

 

[BigDaddyKong]

If your going to water cool, buy reference. There is a good chance a non reference block might not fit, or they may not produce one for that card. Or you might get stuck waiting six months until they decide to make a block for it.

 

[AlienALX]

Yeah I understand this, but my question was in reference to the reference design. I've never owned on... Always got an aftermarket. I still haven't been able to pre order lol. Logged in under the uk on nvidia site and at the time it was available but not now. No luck in the states

I would not worry too much about having a reference card in this day and age. It was proven pretty much beyond doubt that any extra power phases were not really necessary on the 1070 and 1080 (well, apart from the EVGA ones that caught fire of course).

I think that is why MSI have stopped doing Lightning cards. BITD it was important to have hefty phase designs because the cores needed loads of stable power. These days? yeah, as I said, not really necessary.

The limitation these days is not because of lack of voltage for stability. It's the fact your chip has simply reached its limits.

What you do want to do (and it seems you are) is shove them under water. The TXP was quite disappointing on air

 

[tinytomlogan]

Water is about noise and temps.

Not clocks. Not anymore.

 

[Warchild]

If your going to water cool, buy reference. There is a good chance a non reference block might not fit, or they may not produce one for that card. Or you might get stuck waiting six months until they decide to make a block for it.

This is almost accurate. Only the popular selling cards will get a waterblock. So your best chances if you want to be an early adopter is reference cards. I always buy reference since its readily available, easy to buy blocks for and arent "that much" slower than the aftermarket cards.

Besides you might get lucky and have a golden card with the OC. Chances are though if you are wanting an AIB card blocks from EK tend to favour the following

nvidia reference
ASUS strix
EVGA FTW/Classy/Kingpin/SC
MSI Gaming X/Z/insert bloated tongue twisting name.
Gigabyte Gaming

However its almost a given you can get a block for the lesser popular cards but they will cost a little more as bitspower, alphacool, waterblock, etc do make them at a higher premium.


Personally, I think if you are going SLI and blocking. Go for the reference cards. I really dont think you can go wrong there.

 

[Tolemac]

I would also recommend reference cards if you are going to waterblock it. another thing to point out is the blocks are easier to sell when you come to upgrade your rig with newer cards.

 

[Warchild]

I would also recommend reference cards if you are going to waterblock it. another thing to point out is the blocks are easier to sell when you come to upgrade it.

From personal experience, reference blocks hold value VERY WELL. I recently sold my 780 blocks for 15% less than the price I paid when new. They are a rare item. My 680 blocks also sold for what I call premium second hand

I still need to sell my 780 cards now. And will have to repeat the same with my 980ti reference cards and blocks.

 

[AlienALX]

Water is about noise and temps.

Not clocks. Not anymore.

Yup. Set all fans to 7v, heaven

 

[the1320god]

I would also recommend reference cards if you are going to waterblock it. another thing to point out is the blocks are easier to sell when you come to upgrade your rig with newer cards.

never thought of that. Thanks!

From personal experience, reference blocks hold value VERY WELL. I recently sold my 780 blocks for 15% less than the price I paid when new. They are a rare item. My 680 blocks also sold for what I call premium second hand
I still need to sell my 780 cards now. And will have to repeat the same with my 980ti reference cards and blocks.

Anytime you can get that much outta your computer parts is a good come up!!

Yup. Set all fans to 7v, heaven

Tell me about it! I can't wait!