We're out out - The Brexit Thread
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Greenback
Active member
I think they have all ready said about the petition there will not be another referendum.
Saw the age range thing about 18-44 voting to remain and 45+ voting to leave, looked up amount of people in those ranges in England and it's about the same, given the vote in Scotland and Ireland, if more of those age group had been bothered to vote it would most probably have gone the other way
On the petition
"rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum."
this rule doesn't exist so the petition is for a new made up rule added retrospectively to the referendum, and the chances of either side getting 60% would be slim so then there would need to be another, or the vote would need to be compulsory with a punishment if you didn't vote
Saw the age range thing about 18-44 voting to remain and 45+ voting to leave, looked up amount of people in those ranges in England and it's about the same, given the vote in Scotland and Ireland, if more of those age group had been bothered to vote it would most probably have gone the other way
On the petition
"rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum."
this rule doesn't exist so the petition is for a new made up rule added retrospectively to the referendum, and the chances of either side getting 60% would be slim so then there would need to be another, or the vote would need to be compulsory with a punishment if you didn't vote
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Anyone had a look at this ?
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
I suppose you could say democracy in motion !
That should never get looked at, since people within the UK are posting there postcodes on Twitter and facebook, asking for people who should not be able to sign it, to sign up using that persons postcode in order to sign the petition.
Plus it is open to fraud not only by people who should not be able to sign it, but also by people just creating multiple email addresses, and using fake names.
https://off-guardian.org/2016/06/25/the-2nd-referendum-petition-is-wide-open-to-fraud/
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...d-as-it-storms-past-two-million-a3280971.html
What wait? that phrase has been used all through my life in the UK. Quite surprised you haven't come across it before
AlienALX
Well-known member
What wait? that phrase has been used all through my life in the UK. Quite surprised you haven't come across it before
Aye it's called the soggy biscuit over here.
Well Scotland, N Ireland and Wales still make up the UK don't they? And about Farage Yes I agree and that is what makes it many times worse. HE said nothing. But he left his campaign leaders promote false propaganda claiming he wished he never left them do it, after the results came in.
Greenback
Active member
Then shouldn't the leaders be the ones being questioned about that, Farage is an easy target is all it comes down to
And the remain side saying there would be war wasn't propaganda?, Both sides made stuff up during the campaign, a politician didn't tell the truth well there's something that never happened before
Greenback
Active member
They would all be bankrupt after the first election
But that is always the way to an extent, they make promises they can't keep. If people want to see if Farage keeps his promises vote UKIP in the next election.
This is how I see it going Camoron will go, the next PM will put it to a vote in the commons and it will get voted out
What?! Voting UKip just to see if Farage keeps his promise is ludicrous. You vote on who you believe will lead you, not to prove a point that promises are broken.
Greenback
Active member
it was just an idea, not a logical option
Since Maggie Thatcher I don't think we have had any good leaders
barnsley
born in a.....
Even before then. I'd argue alot of leftovers from her policies are being blamed on the EU.
The Lib Dems have stated that if elected they would not leave the EU. Its a bold statement I've got to say. Before people complain about it, I'd say that it is what alot of Lib Dem members would want and lets face it, UKIP would have done the same if the shoe was on the other foot. After all, that is what the petition that is now doing the rounds was created for.
You know more than 2 million people voted remain right? If brexit are so confident that they would win again (and lets face it, that probably would happen) whats all the crying about the idea of a second referendum? Yes its dumb that people didn't do their research before voting in some cases but if the frantic googling is anything to go by I think people might be more informed.
Then again, if the campaigns on both sides had actually been truthful and created informative leaflets that weren't sensationalist it wouldn't have been an issue and personally I, despite benefiting directly from the EU, would have felt a bit more accepting about the vote.
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WYP
News Guru
Word is now going round that Scotland may have the ability to veto Brexit. I doubt that this will happen but it is an interesting move.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36633244
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36633244
Greenback
Active member
It is a brave move given that's possibly 16 million votes lost b4 even an election
It's also dumb that people just assumed the remain was going to win and didn't vote, Also a bad timing with Glastonbury for the referendum
I wouldn't guarantee it would go leave as i think more of the young who didn't vote would now vote imo
Wish i could Thumb this up multiple times
I would not have any bad feeling towards her, Scotland voted to stay she is following what her voters have asked for
Spiderz
New member
Not the biggest of fans of the SNP and by extension Nicola Sturgeon but you have to at least respect her a little for sticking to her guns and standing up for what she believes in. Seems to be the only leader who is actually doing something or at least trying to in all the madness.
An interesting time to be considering a return to Scotland as it stands
Tolemac
Active member
This is so right Nicola Sturgeon is the only one making plans for her country after the referendum unlike here in England where's Osbourne? Cameron has gone quiet "it seems to me he spat his dummy out of his pram and ran away" Both Labour and the Tories are too busy blaming their party members and each other to even get the ball rolling. Somebody whatever party it is has to move this country forward after the peoples decision. I understand that the younger generation voted remain but it was the most deprived communities, pensioners and the old working class people that voted out. We had a vote and we voted out.
For me the vote has been cast so OUT is OUT so if there was another referendum the would be such an uproar in England.
As for idiot Farage he is nothing more that a jumped up Millionare City broker wanting to be in politics
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And there won't be an uproar in the rest of the state? Wales voted out too albeit stupidly but there we go. It has been done.
The worst part for me about all this though is that I don't really care about myself in this circumstance, it is my brother and sisters family I care about all of which are out of work in 3months. All I can do now is take advantage of your crashing currency.
before vote £1 = 13.4kr now it's down to 11.49kr.
