Vsync or not..? does it damage the monitor?

[AssassinPride]

well the question is in the title so help please ^^" i wanted to know if i dont use vsync for my games will it damage my monitor? or should i always put it on? i play all type of games fps/mmorpg/rts on somes search on google they say to put it OFF on fps game but dont know why... and im using a gtx 760 dont know if it can help ... thank you guys

 

[son of spanner]

im not sure mate I have a hd 7950 on a z77 mobo every game I have on my rig wen I look up the stock setting its on in all my games
I am running virtu mvp 2.0 don't know if that's why my vsync is on

 

[NeverBackDown]

Vsync will simply cap your FPS to the limit of your monitors refresh rate. Most monitors are 60Hz so therefore FPS with vsync on will cap it at 60FPS with occasional drop to 59 or up to 61. It won't really damage the monitor it will just screen tear and distort. Over time though if done too much yes it will start to die faster.

 

[AssassinPride]

so the decimal that keep going up and down from like 59.9 to 60.9 is normal right? and if vsync is on it will help my monitor right? (to keep it longer)

 

[NeverBackDown]

Yes it's normal. Vsync will keep the monitor from dying but it's not so drastic that you have to have it on. If you limit your FPS that also means your GPU doesn't have to try as hard so it basically runs cooler and more quiet. That will make more of a difference to longetivity than Vsync would on a monitor.

 

[Lazlo]

Turning of V-Sync can absolutly not damage your monitor. The signal from the GPU to the monoitor is always what you defined it in your settings, typically 60/120/144 Hz. That does not change if you turn of V-Sync!

What can happen is that you have "tearing" in your picture. This will however cause no damage to your monitor.

I second what NeverBackDown said about your graphics card runnig cooler and with less load.

I repeat unless you run your display out of specification i.e. overclocking the refresh rate, you will not damage your monitor.
It's not like if you turn of V-sync and you play like an old game at 200fps, your refresh rate would go up to 200hz. A lot of my old CRT would have probably exploded if that was the case.

 

[SuB]

Vsync will keep the monitor from dying but it's not so drastic that you have to have it on. If you limit your FPS that also means your GPU doesn't have to try as hard so it basically runs cooler and more quiet. That will make more of a difference to longetivity than Vsync would on a monitor.

What, on earth, are you talking about? Vsync off doesn't damage a damn thing?!

Vsync is a mixed bag, it has advantage and disadvantages, in your casual gaming it's not a big deal it just makes things look smoother (less 'frame tearing') but in FPS it can have mixed effects such as dropping frames and creating mouse-lag.

It certainly doesn't give your graphics card an easier time, if anything it can make it WORSE.

I'm aware this is another forum but it's a freaking EPIC post (that I'm not going to copy and paste in here) about VSync, have a read http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1027966611&postcount=1

 

[SPS]

:lol: Vsync on just means that a buffer flip will only occur on a VBL signal (the monitor's vertical blank, i.e. every 16.7 ms for a 60Hz monitor).

However if rendering a frame takes longer than this time period, the game must wait till the next VBL to swap the buffers thus halving the frame rate.

 

[JR23]

I'm aware this is another forum but it's a freaking EPIC post (that I'm not going to copy and paste in here) about VSync, have a read http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1027966611&postcount=1

Thanks SuB that's an awesome post.

Does it really not back off any load at all even with GPU boost/frame rate target? (assuming your frame rate exceeds the refresh rate)

JR

 

[SuB]

If you've tweaked your card to hit a certain FPS goal and then not go faster, that's slightly different to standard VSync I believe.

But honestly.. If you like smooth frames, go with Vsync (for certain stuff it's a must) but if you want high fps/possibly smoother gameplay, turn it off.

 

[AssassinPride]

Thanks for the answer guys and thank for the link it realy helpfull

 

[maniac]

I am 99.9% sure that if vsync is turned on it will reduce the load on your gpu/s if the frame rate outputted from the gpu/s exceeds the monitors refresh rate. BF3 with vsync turned on only loads two 580's up to 50-60% load and with it turned off it goes up to 99% on both cards. with vsync turned on theyre much quiter and stay cooler.

 

[SPS]

I am 99.9% sure that if vsync is turned on it will reduce the load on your gpu/s if the frame rate outputted from the gpu/s exceeds the monitors refresh rate. BF3 with vsync turned on only loads two 580's up to 50-60% load and with it turned off it goes up to 99% on both cards. with vsync turned on theyre much quiter and stay cooler.

Yeah because it's rendering as fast as it can, there's no limit. Although most games do enforce a frame limit to prevent useless rendering.

 

[NeverBackDown]

What, on earth, are you talking about? Vsync off doesn't damage a damn thing?!

If you constantly try to run your monitor with over it's rated speed it'll screen tear often and that's not exactly great for pixels to be tearing(depending on scene).
It won't be very drastic but over time it will end up hurting the panel or start to screw with dead pixels.

 

[Lazlo]

If you constantly try to run your monitor with over it's rated speed it'll screen tear often and that's not exactly great for pixels to be tearing(depending on scene).
It won't be very drastic but over time it will end up hurting the panel or start to screw with dead pixels.

You do not run your monitor over it's rated speed. The signal is always 60/120/144 or whatever hz. Tearing happens during "processing" the image in the graphics card. "Pixels" are designed to "switch" they don't care if the picture as a whole is torn or not.
Dead pixels come from normal wear and tear. Even if your theory was true, which I highly doubt. The backlighting of your monitor would have long died before you would see an effect.

Let me put it this way. I'm playing games for nearly 20 Years. Almost exclusivly with vsync off I have never ever seen any damage to any monitor of mine or my buddy's.

 

[SPS]

If you constantly try to run your monitor with over it's rated speed it'll screen tear often and that's not exactly great for pixels to be tearing(depending on scene).
It won't be very drastic but over time it will end up hurting the panel or start to screw with dead pixels.

I think the word tearing is making you think it's physically tearing.

All it means is that the GPU has swapped buffers before the screen has finished doing it's scanlines. The monitor just draws what's given to it, it's till operating at it's native refresh rate. If it was refreshing faster than stock you would in fact see no tearing at all as it would be refreshing with every GPU swap, and that may damage the monitor, IF it was doing that, which it isn't.

 

[NeverBackDown]

No I have expierenced tearing before. I use a TV and TVs are not exactly fast or meant for gaming on(consoles are an exception) so i see tears without V-sync on almost constantly.

I guess i am not explaining myself well so let's just forget about it since i can't seem to express my thoughts well enough

 

[SPS]

That's because your GPU is capable of exceeding rendering quicker than the refresh interval. Everyone experiences tearing if that is the case. That's why I and most people have Vsync turned on almost all the time.

 

[FTLN]

V-sync on @ 60hz keeps my gpu much cooler than vysnc off.. So Vsync on could amount to a longer gpu life in my setup......

 

[NeverBackDown]

That's because your GPU is capable of exceeding rendering quicker than the refresh interval. Everyone experiences tearing if that is the case. That's why I and most people have Vsync turned on almost all the time.

Well i figured that's why the OP was asking lol. And yes i already knew that

V-sync on @ 60hz keeps my gpu much cooler than vysnc off.. So Vsync on could amount to a longer gpu life in my setup......

+1 for that. Gpu runs much cooler and quieter since it's limited.