Should I wait for the new Ivy Bridge Mobile Laptop CPUs?

[DwarfAdigginAhole]

Diggy, you are being extremly childish. YOU asked for help and/or advice and you just reject the facts and say "I no care, i buy anyways", have you seen crysis run at 100 FPS vs your so smooth 25 FPS? Please do some research first and try to find out how the human eye works before you start flaming at everyone that states anything you do not like

I do not need to do research for something that "I" have seen :T Plain and simply, I just wanna know about the CPU "Nothing" more, my mind is unwavering I really want to buy this laptop, I have wanted to get this m18x sense it came out. I know I am being hard headed about this but, I simply do not wanna be told the Laptop that I have dreamed of having sense I knew about Custom Computers is not worth it. It is like taking the dreams of ever owning anything more then a damn Inspiron Desktop, please I am not trying to act like I am five but, I really do not wanna argue about getting my "Dream" Laptop .-.

 

[alienware]

It's quite amazing. Last time I was here if you swore you got an infraction and multiposting would get you a warning.

Times change I guess, F bombs left and right.

I'm not going to bother trying to make you see scientific fact nor reason any more. It seems my good perception has worked this out. You don't want help or advice because you have already made your mind up so you're simply wanting your ego stroked.

If you've already seen the laptop and already seen that you are happy with how it works then why the need for the thread? Any one offering you advice here has simply been shrugged off or insulted. As I said before if you want me to be insulting I can do that like you wouldn't believe.

Any way, good luck with your laptop. I hope the hinges don't crack, or the GPUs fail or any of the other problems associated with Alienware (GASP SHOCK HORROR ALIENWARE FANBOY ACCEPTS FLAWS !!!111onepone"

 

[DwarfAdigginAhole]

It's quite amazing. Last time I was here if you swore you got an infraction and multiposting would get you a warning.

Times change I guess, F bombs left and right.

I'm not going to bother trying to make you see scientific fact nor reason any more. It seems my good perception has worked this out. You don't want help or advice because you have already made your mind up so you're simply wanting your ego stroked.

If you've already seen the laptop and already seen that you are happy with how it works then why the need for the thread? Any one offering you advice here has simply been shrugged off or insulted. As I said before if you want me to be insulting I can do that like you wouldn't believe.

Any way, good luck with your laptop. I hope the hinges don't crack, or the GPUs fail or any of the other problems associated with Alienware (GASP SHOCK HORROR ALIENWARE FANBOY ACCEPTS FLAWS !!!111onepone"

Ok, I understand there Hinges are weak, I have known that forever XD It is my only complaint with Alienware's Laptops. I made this thread for only one thing, what does the title say? "Should I wait for the new Ivy Bridge Mobile Laptop CPUs?" I only wanted to know if there had been any news about the Ivy Bridge Movile CPU's that is the only thing I wanted to know. I also plan to help this out, first off I plan to get a cooling pad, I also plan to eventually try a really radical idea I had...Mobile Watercooling(I know, I am a mad man XD) I had a few ideas, and I plan to try them out eventually but till then, I am just gonna switch to IC Diamond Thermal paste, and ether the CoolerMaster SF-19 cooling pad or the NZXT CRYO-001B.

 

[mrDMxtreme]

diggy, listen... 2 years ago i spent 3k on an M17x (i'm typing on it right now) and my HONEST opinion is do NOT go for an alienware, NONONO..

NOW LISTEN, before you think i'm crushing ur "dream" laptop, please go look at other brands, i say look at ORIGINPC (http://www.originpc.com/) or DIGITALSTORM (http://www.digitalstormonline.com/gaminglaptops.asp) or something else.... i had nothing but problems with this alienware....

personally i would never again buy a gaming laptop, BUT thats not what i'm hear to tell you because that's just what i have learned and you will too in the future, what i am trying to say is IF you buy something THAT expensive don't waste all that on an alienware, go for a better brand.

 

[mrDMxtreme]

just for comparison, the origin can have up to a i7 990x cpu and 2x gtx 580m..... it'll destroy an alienware

 

[DwarfAdigginAhole]

diggy, listen... 2 years ago i spent 3k on an M17x (i'm typing on it right now) and my HONEST opinion is do NOT go for an alienware, NONONO..

NOW LISTEN, before you think i'm crushing ur "dream" laptop, please go look at other brands, i say look at ORIGINPC (http://www.originpc.com/) or DIGITALSTORM (http://www.digitalstormonline.com/gaminglaptops.asp) or something else.... i had nothing but problems with this alienware....

personally i would never again buy a gaming laptop, BUT thats not what i'm hear to tell you because that's just what i have learned and you will too in the future, what i am trying to say is IF you buy something THAT expensive don't waste all that on an alienware, go for a better brand.

just for comparison, the origin can have up to a i7 990x cpu and 2x gtx 580m..... it'll destroy an alienware

Ok dude, I understand that but first, The Origin IS LIKE 4 FREAKIN GRAND MAN Oo I cannot afford that, the m18x I have is a nice $2579 it has the 2630QM and 2x6990m's. Secondly, I do not think those companies have financing offers like Alienware, I plan to pay about $215 a month for about a Year for this laptop so I can easilly afford the laptop. I do thank you for advice like this bro, I know alienware has shaudy buildsmen ship at points but, I have not heard anyone saying that they have had problems with there m18x so far(but, I am betting there will be problems). I only am going with Alienware for three reasons, They have The Most Powerful Mobile Sandy Bridge laptop the m18x, no one else has SLI on the Mobile SB ones, only on the 1366 laptops, They also have a very aesthetically pleasing design, and finally because they have the financing option.

 

[Ya93sin]

Ok dude, I understand that but first, The Origin IS LIKE 4 FREAKIN GRAND MAN Oo I cannot afford that, the m18x I have is a nice $2579 it has the 2630QM and 2x6990m's. Secondly, I do not think those companies have financing offers like Alienware, I plan to pay about $215 a month for about a Year for this laptop so I can easilly afford the laptop. I do thank you for advice like this bro, I know alienware has shaudy buildsmen ship at points but, I have not heard anyone saying that they have had problems with there m18x so far(but, I am betting there will be problems). I only am going with Alienware for three reasons, They have The Most Powerful Mobile Sandy Bridge laptop the m18x, no one else has SLI on the Mobile SB ones, only on the 1366 laptops, They also have a very aesthetically pleasing design, and finally because they have the financing option.

If anybody I know told me they were about to spend £1.5k on a laptop, I would start ringing around for retirement homes.

Also, on financing, why even bother? Spend what you got, its difficult to anticipate what's going to happen in a year. You might be out of a job or whatever, then how you going to pay it back? Spend what you have rather than what you earn, look at how the USA is struggling today with debt.

SLi setups are not the thing to do, how many times have we seen this on the forums, and the first bit of advice for a gaming PC is don't get SLi, its not worth it for the extra heat alone, let alone the extra cost. And in a laptop, extra heat is just the last thing you want. Get a 580M if you can, but just don't ever get SLi setups. The same applies for laptops as PCs when it comes to choosing a single card over SLi.

You don't need to max out Metro 2033 or Crysis 2, running a little less AA and AF won't give much of a noticeable decrease in visual quality, but it will give a lot higher performance. The only reason anybody wants to max Crysis 2 or Metro 2033 on a laptop is for e-peen, and let's be honest, laptops are bloody awful for e-peen.

Onto fps, to anybody that says around 30fps is smooth, its only if that 30fps is constant and never dipping below. In any game, 60fps is about the sweet spot, and that's for a reason. 30fps minimum is what you want. You may think you see its all great at 30fps, but after extended use, you're going to hate that number. Playing the game too, the tiniest bit of lag can drive you nuts sometimes. And we dont wan't $2.5k laptops being thrown out of windows now do we.

To your original post, its not worth waiting. CPUs are so rarely a bottleneck on a system. And your talk of hex cores is crazy, think of the heat its going to produce in a notebook chassis. And your battery life going down the drain faster than your hard earned money.

This dream laptop will give you nothing but nightmares.

 

[TicTac]

Don't do it diggy

for that amounts of money you could get a sick pc!

 

[Lollipop]

Don't bother, he has probably already bought it and won't reconsider

 

[DwarfAdigginAhole]

Don't bother, he has probably already bought it and won't reconsider

First and for most, You do not know anything about me and I would appreciate it if you did not make assumptions about me and actually give me advice that "Helps" the situation which you seem so utterly incompetent to be able to do. If you cannot do any of the above then please, never post on one of my post again and if I can find away to block you from doing as such I shall

Thank you now have a nice day.

 

[DwarfAdigginAhole]

If anybody I know told me they were about to spend £1.5k on a laptop, I would start ringing around for retirement homes.

Also, on financing, why even bother? Spend what you got, its difficult to anticipate what's going to happen in a year. You might be out of a job or whatever, then how you going to pay it back? Spend what you have rather than what you earn, look at how the USA is struggling today with debt.

SLi setups are not the thing to do, how many times have we seen this on the forums, and the first bit of advice for a gaming PC is don't get SLi, its not worth it for the extra heat alone, let alone the extra cost. And in a laptop, extra heat is just the last thing you want. Get a 580M if you can, but just don't ever get SLi setups. The same applies for laptops as PCs when it comes to choosing a single card over SLi.

You don't need to max out Metro 2033 or Crysis 2, running a little less AA and AF won't give much of a noticeable decrease in visual quality, but it will give a lot higher performance. The only reason anybody wants to max Crysis 2 or Metro 2033 on a laptop is for e-peen, and let's be honest, laptops are bloody awful for e-peen.

Onto fps, to anybody that says around 30fps is smooth, its only if that 30fps is constant and never dipping below. In any game, 60fps is about the sweet spot, and that's for a reason. 30fps minimum is what you want. You may think you see its all great at 30fps, but after extended use, you're going to hate that number. Playing the game too, the tiniest bit of lag can drive you nuts sometimes. And we dont wan't $2.5k laptops being thrown out of windows now do we.

To your original post, its not worth waiting. CPUs are so rarely a bottleneck on a system. And your talk of hex cores is crazy, think of the heat its going to produce in a notebook chassis. And your battery life going down the drain faster than your hard earned money.

This dream laptop will give you nothing but nightmares.

Hmmmmmmm, ok let me ask something as you are the first person to really get me thinking about this and the first to actually help me in a non-negative way, what settings would you say I should run it at if say....I got the m17x with a single GTX580m or a 6990m? Another note, would I be able to atleast Max out World of Warcraft and games such as that on a single GTX580m? or if I where to stick with the m18x, could I not just buy the NZXT laptop cooler that has 3x120mm fans?

I really wanna stick with a gaming laptop because I really like the portability of a laptop but, I wanna be able to play all the best games at pretty high settings if not maxed. I also plan to stick with alienware because, I mean man I work at Pizza Hut for freakin minimum wage and I would prefer not to wait till I am 20 to get a system..A wise man once said, at some point you just have to forget what others say and just jump on something when "you" want to. I also don't have to worry about Interest or anything with this financing as it is 12 months no interest and I plan to get it paid off in a year.

Thanks you for your actual helpful advice, everyone else wants me to go for a Desktop but, they don't seem to understand that there is a reason why I want a laptop at the moment over a desktop XD but god forbid that they would even take that into consideration.

 

[DwarfAdigginAhole]

Don't do it diggy

for that amounts of money you could get a sick pc!

I am getting a gaming laptop and there are no two ways about, I have my reasons to want a laptop over a desktop at the moment, but don't worry the desktop is not far off ;D

 

[AdrianD2]

I would highly suggest against getting SLI just like Ya93sin said, I thought getting SLI was going to be great, but I just came riddled with problems and issues... Go for the good single card setup. And plus that extra heat on the laptop... Not good. Plus I'm sorry to say that watercooling on a laptop is impossible if you still want it to be a laptop...

 

[DwarfAdigginAhole]

I would highly suggest against getting SLI just like Ya93sin said, I thought getting SLI was going to be great, but I just came riddled with problems and issues... Go for the good single card setup. And plus that extra heat on the laptop... Not good. Plus I'm sorry to say that watercooling on a laptop is impossible if you still want it to be a laptop...

It would not really be a laptop anymore I know but, it is a funny mad man idea I had XD. Well like I asked Ya93sin, if I do decide to go with the m18x instead of just getting the m17x and single GTX580m...would the NZXT 3x120mm fan laptop cooler help with the heat? or would it still be to hot?

 

[TicTac]

Gaming laptop isnt a bad idea but alienware is abit meh

 

[Ya93sin]

Hmmmmmmm, ok let me ask something as you are the first person to really get me thinking about this and the first to actually help me in a non-negative way, what settings would you say I should run it at if say....I got the m17x with a single GTX580m or a 6990m? Another note, would I be able to atleast Max out World of Warcraft and games such as that on a single GTX580m? or if I where to stick with the m18x, could I not just buy the NZXT laptop cooler that has 3x120mm fans?

I really wanna stick with a gaming laptop because I really like the portability of a laptop but, I wanna be able to play all the best games at pretty high settings if not maxed. I also plan to stick with alienware because, I mean man I work at Pizza Hut for freakin minimum wage and I would prefer not to wait till I am 20 to get a system..A wise man once said, at some point you just have to forget what others say and just jump on something when "you" want to. I also don't have to worry about Interest or anything with this financing as it is 12 months no interest and I plan to get it paid off in a year.

Thanks you for your actual helpful advice, everyone else wants me to go for a Desktop but, they don't seem to understand that there is a reason why I want a laptop at the moment over a desktop XD but god forbid that they would even take that into consideration.

Alright I just woke up so sorry for late reply

GTX 580m will just about max any game out there, while giving you less heat and power consumption than an Xfire/SLi setup, I found this review for you:

LINK

Specs

Crysis 2 Performance

So say you might have to turn down AA one notch, or another setting down a notch, but then compare it to the fps you were expecting with the SLi setup

Min 25 Average 43

Even if it isn't smooth, its acceptable at 30fps minimum if you can get it to that

So here you got a minimum of 24 with the overclock, now OK the average is not as high (only 31), but again, turn a couple settings down and et voila, you can have it running 40fps with a minimum 30 quite easily I should reckon. Remember that even a high end PC might dip down to the 20s when you load a new area up without going through a loading screen (I have Crysis2 on an SSD and its gone into the 20s a couple of times). So the performance really isn't actually that bad.

Then consider that its a lot more pleasant for you in terms of heat and cost, so almost a double whammy for that 1fps minimum frame rate drop

Also check out that Shogun Total War II part of the review, its stunning how demanding Total War can be ahaha, for me its more demanding than Crysis 2 (or Napoleon Total War is anyway, and that's less well optimised). If the 580m pushes those frame-rates out during a Crysis 2 sesh then it should max out World of Warcraft fairly easily.

And yeah I understand why you wan't a laptop

I've just finished school, but year 12 everybody used to play LAN parties with CS 1.6 and F.E.A.R.2 Project Origin. My netbook could just about keep up with FEAR2 (check the CPU-Z spec), but that was on low

Tbf its always easy to spend a lot of money on a dream, but if you look, even losing a graphics card and going single is actually not so different, plus you get the heat/cost benefit

 

[Ghosthud1]

The laptop specs he has shown will run most, if not all games Maxxed.

 

[DwarfAdigginAhole]

Alright I just woke up so sorry for late reply

GTX 580m will just about max any game out there, while giving you less heat and power consumption than an Xfire/SLi setup, I found this review for you:

LINK

Specs

Crysis 2 Performance

So say you might have to turn down AA one notch, or another setting down a notch, but then compare it to the fps you were expecting with the SLi setup

Even if it isn't smooth, its acceptable at 30fps minimum if you can get it to that

So here you got a minimum of 24 with the overclock, now OK the average is not as high (only 31), but again, turn a couple settings down and et voila, you can have it running 40fps with a minimum 30 quite easily I should reckon. Remember that even a high end PC might dip down to the 20s when you load a new area up without going through a loading screen (I have Crysis2 on an SSD and its gone into the 20s a couple of times). So the performance really isn't actually that bad.

Then consider that its a lot more pleasant for you in terms of heat and cost, so almost a double whammy for that 1fps minimum frame rate drop

Also check out that Shogun Total War II part of the review, its stunning how demanding Total War can be ahaha, for me its more demanding than Crysis 2 (or Napoleon Total War is anyway, and that's less well optimised). If the 580m pushes those frame-rates out during a Crysis 2 sesh then it should max out World of Warcraft fairly easily.

And yeah I understand why you wan't a laptop

I've just finished school, but year 12 everybody used to play LAN parties with CS 1.6 and F.E.A.R.2 Project Origin. My netbook could just about keep up with FEAR2 (check the CPU-Z spec), but that was on low

Tbf its always easy to spend a lot of money on a dream, but if you look, even losing a graphics card and going single is actually not so different, plus you get the heat/cost benefit

Blarg DX I know I am being so hard headed but, Q.Q I saw those scores and I was like, but they would be so much better with the SLI or the one I was going for which was 2x6990m in Xfire but, lord I know that is gonna run hot but all I keep saying to myself is "Just by a cooling pad".....If my brain does not get into gear and just buy the Single Gpu I may just let make the specs and I will just buy it for myself and not look XD lol

I really wanna ask tho, would the heat be that bad? I mean, I would be able to take it in more if I had like some comparisons of like, The m17x with one GTX580m and the m18x with 2xGTX580m's, Then I would just stop second guessing everything and just concent to the fact that your idea is the best one .____. Sorry, I can be stubborn sometimes.

Another note, would it be better to get the GTX580m, or the 6990m?

 

[DwarfAdigginAhole]

Gaming laptop isnt a bad idea but alienware is abit meh

I am going with alienware for Two Reasons, 1: Price to performance there laptops are the best. 2: Dell Financing.

 

[DwarfAdigginAhole]

Alright I just woke up so sorry for late reply

GTX 580m will just about max any game out there, while giving you less heat and power consumption than an Xfire/SLi setup, I found this review for you:

LINK

Specs

Crysis 2 Performance

So say you might have to turn down AA one notch, or another setting down a notch, but then compare it to the fps you were expecting with the SLi setup

Even if it isn't smooth, its acceptable at 30fps minimum if you can get it to that

So here you got a minimum of 24 with the overclock, now OK the average is not as high (only 31), but again, turn a couple settings down and et voila, you can have it running 40fps with a minimum 30 quite easily I should reckon. Remember that even a high end PC might dip down to the 20s when you load a new area up without going through a loading screen (I have Crysis2 on an SSD and its gone into the 20s a couple of times). So the performance really isn't actually that bad.

Then consider that its a lot more pleasant for you in terms of heat and cost, so almost a double whammy for that 1fps minimum frame rate drop

Also check out that Shogun Total War II part of the review, its stunning how demanding Total War can be ahaha, for me its more demanding than Crysis 2 (or Napoleon Total War is anyway, and that's less well optimised). If the 580m pushes those frame-rates out during a Crysis 2 sesh then it should max out World of Warcraft fairly easily.

And yeah I understand why you wan't a laptop

I've just finished school, but year 12 everybody used to play LAN parties with CS 1.6 and F.E.A.R.2 Project Origin. My netbook could just about keep up with FEAR2 (check the CPU-Z spec), but that was on low

Tbf its always easy to spend a lot of money on a dream, but if you look, even losing a graphics card and going single is actually not so different, plus you get the heat/cost benefit

http://www.xoticpc.com/msi-gt780dxr099us-preorder-p-3130.html

DAMN IT MSI!!!! If they would just stop pussy-footing around and just put a GTX580m in there I could get a better brand over Alienware =_____=