Precisely so until you both get to your maximum stable overclock on air with the same processor clock how can you compare them.
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Precisely so until you both get to your maximum stable overclock on air with the same processor clock how can you compare them.
Dicehunter
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I think your greatly missing the point here, Overclocking card, Hugely expensive, Roughly on par with a reference 780 Ti unless under LN2 *Which it was built for*, Not being overclocked and used to it's full potential.
That's all anyone is pretty much going on about, It's like buying a McLaren F1 just to drive around London in rush hour, Don't make no god damn sense.
Now do you understand ?
Edge
New member
This is it.
He gets no extra performance from a ridiculously more expensive card thats sole purpose is to bench on LN2. If he's not using LN2 to tap into that added potential that the card gives, then he's just using a standard non-reference card that costs a fuck load more for literally no gain.
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Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Finally someone with sense and logic ^_^
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
No hostilities just plain confusion as to how someone can be so dense.
Vlada011
New member
I drop down clock to see is it bottleneck visible on i7-3770K on GPU Score, I couldn't imagine more than 400-500 points less on P score, I was shocked... And yes hit about 100 points and on GPU too...But we can't call that bottleneck but we can say GTX780Ti work better 1-2% on higher speed even with Ivy Bridge 3770K...Before that I thought 2500K stock is enough.
Except that both results are stock clock graphic card 1072/1750MHz... I can push CPU to the 4.8-4.9GHz, 4.8GHz is last what I have stable because temps, confirmed with 12h Prime95 AVX on overclock,net Suicide Club, mine name is there, everything with H100 on summer, with more than 90% memory on 1300V or 1200V 4.5GHz...CPU Clock is not problem...but I though GPU result will be absolutely same, but it's not, difference is really small but 1000MHz OC influence good and on GPU... Off course I never keep CPU on last clock, on 4.5GHz I have 300MHz free...
I don't know what to say except next time you must prepare better.
They will launch such cards for every architecture for best model, as GTX580 Classified ULTRA - GTX780Ti KP Classified... Than everybody who wish can prepare money, save little more and must react fast to find sample for self... Like you see many people wish this cards, some of them buy few, they are not overclockers all of them. 1:5 is biggest chance to find something nice in such cards.
Or you can save money and play with reference cards, what you like, I wait models as this. Soon I will overclocked card on your clocks than we can compare results. If you ask me everything is like they promise, 15.000 in 3DMark 11 on 1200MHz with 4960X overclocked to 4500MHz, I have more than that with 3770K on 4500MHz and you see difference with CPU, I could expect near 16.000 with 4960X 4500MHz or who knows, but give us what they promise. Even people who can't OC card well maybe their models are exactly best under dry ice...They are not binned for Air, but I'm glad because work excellent and on air.
Except that both results are stock clock graphic card 1072/1750MHz... I can push CPU to the 4.8-4.9GHz, 4.8GHz is last what I have stable because temps, confirmed with 12h Prime95 AVX on overclock,net Suicide Club, mine name is there, everything with H100 on summer, with more than 90% memory on 1300V or 1200V 4.5GHz...CPU Clock is not problem...but I though GPU result will be absolutely same, but it's not, difference is really small but 1000MHz OC influence good and on GPU... Off course I never keep CPU on last clock, on 4.5GHz I have 300MHz free...
I don't know what to say except next time you must prepare better.
They will launch such cards for every architecture for best model, as GTX580 Classified ULTRA - GTX780Ti KP Classified... Than everybody who wish can prepare money, save little more and must react fast to find sample for self... Like you see many people wish this cards, some of them buy few, they are not overclockers all of them. 1:5 is biggest chance to find something nice in such cards.
Or you can save money and play with reference cards, what you like, I wait models as this. Soon I will overclocked card on your clocks than we can compare results. If you ask me everything is like they promise, 15.000 in 3DMark 11 on 1200MHz with 4960X overclocked to 4500MHz, I have more than that with 3770K on 4500MHz and you see difference with CPU, I could expect near 16.000 with 4960X 4500MHz or who knows, but give us what they promise. Even people who can't OC card well maybe their models are exactly best under dry ice...They are not binned for Air, but I'm glad because work excellent and on air.
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barnsley
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They work fine, I'd hardly call it excellent.
Vlada011
New member
They work excellent... Ooo I forgot, I bought this monitor before few years because 24" is max what I need... Now to upgrade only because IPS Panel for gaming I wait something more innovative to show up... Example if G-Sync is really serious improvement I will wait to Dell present some nice 2560x1440 120Hz monitor with
G-Sync...
But in few games GTX780Ti with filters is just enough for 60fps...
G-Sync...
But in few games GTX780Ti with filters is just enough for 60fps...
ObscureParadox
New member
I will tread on the side of caution here in case I cause another shit storm 
It is possible that this card would actually be better than most if used on a custom water loop due to the design of the circuitry causing the GPU to have absolutely 0 TDP, therefore allowing users to overclock further. This of course would require a very good watercooling set up and isn't a guarantee. Also I am going to be saving my cash for one of these but of course will be putting it under LN2 as it should be
It is possible that this card would actually be better than most if used on a custom water loop due to the design of the circuitry causing the GPU to have absolutely 0 TDP, therefore allowing users to overclock further. This of course would require a very good watercooling set up and isn't a guarantee. Also I am going to be saving my cash for one of these but of course will be putting it under LN2 as it should be
Vlada011
New member
I will tread on the side of caution here in case I cause another shit storm
It is possible that this card would actually be better than most if used on a custom water loop due to the design of the circuitry causing the GPU to have absolutely 0 TDP, therefore allowing users to overclock further. This of course would require a very good watercooling set up and isn't a guarantee. Also I am going to be saving my cash for one of these but of course will be putting it under LN2 as it should be
You will not wrong, you will these cards are real thing.
Only fact that over net people can find different version of BIOS with memory timings adjusted for Air tell this card is design to be best under zero but can be used completely normal as best overclocking card and on Air/Water without problem. Best power design mean that in any environment. This is only improved GTX780Ti Classified to be even better under LN2.
I don't know how many people on net have conditions for LN2 but if some brand make cards only for them they can't earn almost nothing, that's very small number of people and doesn't mean others are crazy if buy these cards or throw money.
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Kaapstad
Active member
What are you actually going to use the card for ?
You don't seem to know much about overclocking as you are still messing around with the card. The other two people I know with these kingpins are already giving their cards some serious overclocking. What they are not doing is posting loads of endless speculation on the internet.
For gaming the kingpin is a bit of a lame duck, you can get a couple of 290Ps or GTX 780s for about the same money. The GTX 690 out of the box is faster and the icing on the cake is even the Titan Black when it hits the shelves will be better value for gaming as it will come with 6gb of vram meaning you can use a pile of them @4K.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
The language barrier is increasing !!! *Captain..she can'ee take any more...she's gonna blow!*
This thread is starting to make as much sense as a Bavarian stroke victim with full body tourettes in the Amsterdam red light district singing how much is that doggy in the window whilst spinning a midget on an office chair.
That's right you have entered the twilight zone !
The one without the crap acting and messed up hair !
In short my fellow Ovaries 'n' Nads ?!
Don't make no god damn sense !
This thread is starting to make as much sense as a Bavarian stroke victim with full body tourettes in the Amsterdam red light district singing how much is that doggy in the window whilst spinning a midget on an office chair.
That's right you have entered the twilight zone !
The one without the crap acting and messed up hair !
In short my fellow Ovaries 'n' Nads ?!
Don't make no god damn sense !
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Feronix
New member
Doesn't help when you keep going off topic either nubcake
Just stay on topic, okay boys?
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Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Nub cakes are sweet lovely things that are made of awesomeness, I take that as a compliment ! ^_^
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You changed your tune quite dramatically their nubcake?
Dicehunter
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Edge
New member
Hahaha I fucking love you dude.
But yeah. If you aren't OC'ing competitively on LN2, don't buy a Kingpin. /thread
Vlada011
New member
How many of you have free unlimited supplies or necessary amount of LN2 except me who are not interested for that... Don't even to talk about helium, I can't find that and most of them can't pay that.
OK is not unlimited but I can use every week 20l LN2...But that's only luck because I accidentally have chance for that even before 5-10 years... But how many of people here have money and supplies to pay 5-25l of LN2 for month??? 1, 2, 5, 10???
They could immediately forget on making cards if they make for LN2 because they could earn nothing. 100 people interest that, half of them no money for LN2 and you talk me this card is strictly for them...
This is only Best Graphic Card on Market with best parts, power section, binned GPU for any purpose, gaming, looking, LN2, water, how do you want, and nothing else, one graphic card with best design for all people who need graphic cards in PC and want best. I think at this moment 60-70% of people keep on Air, 20-30 on H20 and maybe few of them on LN2.
OK is not unlimited but I can use every week 20l LN2...But that's only luck because I accidentally have chance for that even before 5-10 years... But how many of people here have money and supplies to pay 5-25l of LN2 for month??? 1, 2, 5, 10???
They could immediately forget on making cards if they make for LN2 because they could earn nothing. 100 people interest that, half of them no money for LN2 and you talk me this card is strictly for them...
This is only Best Graphic Card on Market with best parts, power section, binned GPU for any purpose, gaming, looking, LN2, water, how do you want, and nothing else, one graphic card with best design for all people who need graphic cards in PC and want best. I think at this moment 60-70% of people keep on Air, 20-30 on H20 and maybe few of them on LN2.
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