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Blade Runner
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Blade Runner
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Another bit closer to being done with the fan wire crimping! 
I think that there is something very pleasing to the eye about the proportions of a 280 x 60 in push - pull, it just seems balanced to me, not that it will be seen once fitted.
I think that there is something very pleasing to the eye about the proportions of a 280 x 60 in push - pull, it just seems balanced to me, not that it will be seen once fitted.
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Blade Runner
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The location of the lower bulkhead fittings in the motherboard chamber is fixed by the GPU water block inlet for one pipe. The others location is fixed by having to fit in front of the water block.
When I was planning this part of the build I got a "thin" 45mm rad to help with these pipes position. When I marked the holes out I saw that it was going to be a very tight fit, even with the 45mm rad to get the bulkhead, pipes and fittings in the lower fan chamber past the front radiator below.
A couple of thin straight fittings just squeeze past the radiator frame and that allowed the Monsoon hardline fittings clearance because they are in line with the fins of the radiator which are stepped back in comparison with the frame.
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When I was planning this part of the build I got a "thin" 45mm rad to help with these pipes position. When I marked the holes out I saw that it was going to be a very tight fit, even with the 45mm rad to get the bulkhead, pipes and fittings in the lower fan chamber past the front radiator below.
A couple of thin straight fittings just squeeze past the radiator frame and that allowed the Monsoon hardline fittings clearance because they are in line with the fins of the radiator which are stepped back in comparison with the frame.
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Blade Runner
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I have got the 2 front fans in the Flex-Bay 140.2 mount fitted together with the DEMCiflex filter which surprisingly needed a little trimming but no big deal.
The Noctua fans have bare wires between the motor and the edge of the cage so I covered them with heat shrink as I have done with all the others.
These 2 fans and the exhaust fan on the rear of the case will be wired together and have their own channel on the Aquasuite.
The hot swap HDD & SSD cage was also put in position so I can work out more pipe routes next week.
ETA I forgot to mention that all 3 of these fans are the 3000rpm type, there is a reason for this
well an idea I had, that I hope may work.
This chamber is going to be pretty much sealed off from the rest of the case so the only airflow across the mobo chips and the RAM will come from the 2 intake fans on the front and the one exhaust on the rear all three running as slow as possible or off, in a normal situation.
Even with the intake filter there will be some dust that will get into the chamber so the "idea" is that every now and then I turn up the fans to 3000rmp and air blast the area to shift the dust.
That's what the plan is anyway, it works or not, we will see ...............
The Noctua fans have bare wires between the motor and the edge of the cage so I covered them with heat shrink as I have done with all the others.
These 2 fans and the exhaust fan on the rear of the case will be wired together and have their own channel on the Aquasuite.
The hot swap HDD & SSD cage was also put in position so I can work out more pipe routes next week.
ETA I forgot to mention that all 3 of these fans are the 3000rpm type, there is a reason for this
well an idea I had, that I hope may work.This chamber is going to be pretty much sealed off from the rest of the case so the only airflow across the mobo chips and the RAM will come from the 2 intake fans on the front and the one exhaust on the rear all three running as slow as possible or off, in a normal situation.
Even with the intake filter there will be some dust that will get into the chamber so the "idea" is that every now and then I turn up the fans to 3000rmp and air blast the area to shift the dust.
That's what the plan is anyway, it works or not, we will see ...............
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Still playing around with placement of the pumps in the pedestal and the location of the bulkhead fittings on the two return pipes from the lower rads into the pedestal.
I had to assemble the valve/ drain points/ light port to work out heights for the bulkhead fittings on the rear of the case for the barbs that will fit a hosepipe.
This will be the way both the whole system and if required, just the motherboard area on its own, can be drained off.
I also fitted the Aqueros and the Farbwerks, which is now possible because I have no more drilling to do above that area and it will let me start measuring the lengths of the USB and Aquabus cables I have to make up. More fan wire size crimping
Bring on the power cables
I had to assemble the valve/ drain points/ light port to work out heights for the bulkhead fittings on the rear of the case for the barbs that will fit a hosepipe.
This will be the way both the whole system and if required, just the motherboard area on its own, can be drained off.
I also fitted the Aqueros and the Farbwerks, which is now possible because I have no more drilling to do above that area and it will let me start measuring the lengths of the USB and Aquabus cables I have to make up. More fan wire size crimping
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Dawelio
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What noctua fans are those?, NF-A14's Industrial?... how are they performing, have you tested them yet?, are they loud?...
As I used to have 2 NF-F12's Industrial 2000RPM PWM and they were so quiet when doing smaller stuff on the PC, but once I turned the PC on and they went full speed, I was like "Shit! The fuck is that?!"... I thought it was the graphcis card first, but then realized it was the NF-F12's on the H100 lol.
As I used to have 2 NF-F12's Industrial 2000RPM PWM and they were so quiet when doing smaller stuff on the PC, but once I turned the PC on and they went full speed, I was like "Shit! The fuck is that?!"... I thought it was the graphcis card first, but then realized it was the NF-F12's on the H100 lol.
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Blade Runner
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Yes, they are the IP67 NF-A14 IPPC PWM 2000rpm type. I have only tested them on full speed and the 4 on the top mount which just act as exhaust fans and don't have to push or pull air through anything other than themselves were surprisingly quiet at 2000rpm
The others with rads behind them are loud but that is the air through the rad making the noise.
At the very start of the build JR 2.0 recommended I look at Noctuas as he has some of these attached to an aquero and they will run very very slowly which is what I am after. I think it may be to do with the "three phase" motor they have, it allows lower speeds?
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Another couple of pipes between the GPU loop flow meter and the 420 rad, bent and fitted this evening.
I have spent most of the evening trying out all the possible positions for the return pipes to the pumps and how that effects the pumps positions.
I think I have the best location for everything but I will sleep on it, there is no rush as I have plenty of other things to do on the case and I don't want to cut four 22mm holes in the wrong places
ps. I needed another black 90 degree Monsoon Rotary fitting to get the Flow meter to fit properly. I had not allowed for this one but I have a couple of white Monsoon rotarys which are spare. Out with the satin black rattle can and I hey presto! A black rotary.....I'm quite chuffed with the finish as spray painting is not my strong point.
I have spent most of the evening trying out all the possible positions for the return pipes to the pumps and how that effects the pumps positions.
I think I have the best location for everything but I will sleep on it, there is no rush as I have plenty of other things to do on the case and I don't want to cut four 22mm holes in the wrong places
ps. I needed another black 90 degree Monsoon Rotary fitting to get the Flow meter to fit properly. I had not allowed for this one but I have a couple of white Monsoon rotarys which are spare. Out with the satin black rattle can and I hey presto! A black rotary.....I'm quite chuffed with the finish as spray painting is not my strong point.
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Nice job blade. Dont make my mistake. Ensure no spray got inside the fitting. any residue will wear off from the water flow/water heat and contaminate your loop. In my case, I had radiator white flecks build up in the CPU block which had worn off from some of my sprayed fittings and had a shitty performance hit on my loop.
I had to roll up some wet n dry and smoke that shi.. I mean sand the inside of the fittings to remove the paint. Even a couple of flecks was enough to annoy me.
I had to roll up some wet n dry and smoke that shi.. I mean sand the inside of the fittings to remove the paint. Even a couple of flecks was enough to annoy me.
Blade Runner
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I had not thought of that, thanks for the tip.
I will check tonight if any paint got inside (I think it may have done because I did not try and keep it out).
I will mask another rotary and paint that if I need to. I don't want black flecks :mellow:
ETA, I was lucky, just a couple of specks on the inside which I could sand off, thanks again Warchild
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Blade Runner
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I managed to get the 4 holes for the bulkhead fittings between the pedestal and the lower fan chamber drilled tonight.
I did have one of the bent pipes ready to fit but I saw that I had the screw on part back to front and trying to get the lock ring off the pipe did not go well........that UV glue sets very quickly in a UV box!
I did get 2 of the straight pipes cut and fitted and I am going to try and get the rest of the pipes in the lower fan chamber finished tomorrow.
I did have one of the bent pipes ready to fit but I saw that I had the screw on part back to front and trying to get the lock ring off the pipe did not go well........that UV glue sets very quickly in a UV box!
I did get 2 of the straight pipes cut and fitted and I am going to try and get the rest of the pipes in the lower fan chamber finished tomorrow.
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Innocent159
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Never seen such an clean CaseLab build. Nice job love the fan wiring/cable management. Can't wait to view the complete build. Would love a video overview
voodoografix
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Hurry up please I wanna see more pics lol , I even bought more tissues .
But seriously it's coming together beautifully , super clean build , I really do envy this build on so many levels.
But seriously it's coming together beautifully , super clean build , I really do envy this build on so many levels.
Blade Runner
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Thank you.
I had not thought about a video but it would likely be the best way to get the whole build shown properly.
My Son is pretty handy with video and editing, I'll have a word with him when the time comes.
Thank you too, the clean look is what I am aiming for.
Talking of which, I am still not decided on using soft tube or hard pipe for the connections to the motherboard and GPUs - I like the clean straight lines of acrylic tube with nice 90 degree bends and the bulkhead fittings are all placed to allow plumb runs with no angled pipes to suit this type of pipe but.............
I also like the swoopy look of tubing, especially in something like a 19mm OD or bigger if it is available.
What does the board think? I will likely try both and see which looks best.
The soft tubing would work better for being able to remove the mobo easily on the slide out, that is another plus on its side. I don't know, its a while off yet anyway.
Here is tonight's work, the last two pipes cut, bent and fitted in the lower fan chamber and the pumps bolted down with the soft rubber mounts.
The GPU loop drain off point and valves that allow the mobo to be removed without a whole system drain down, is also shown trial fitted.
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The plan this weekend is to try and get the loops full of water, so to that end I have been busy tonight finishing off the pipes in the pedestal.
The only pipework in there now left to do are the two drain off bulkhead outlets, one of which is tricky because of lack of room to move the fittings.
I also have to properly fit the two reservoirs, they were just in position loose. The base of both have holes for 6 LEDs so I have to fit those along with the wiring holes/ grommets as it will mean a full drain down to get to them again.
The only pipework in there now left to do are the two drain off bulkhead outlets, one of which is tricky because of lack of room to move the fittings.
I also have to properly fit the two reservoirs, they were just in position loose. The base of both have holes for 6 LEDs so I have to fit those along with the wiring holes/ grommets as it will mean a full drain down to get to them again.
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All the pipes are in now and some tubing spanning the motherboard area.
The 6 LEDs in each reservoir took a bit of time to solder and make neat but it has turned out OK; especially with the minimal amount of viewable wire between the reservoir and the hole into the rear service area, which I am pleased with.
I will be back later to update on how the leak testing went.............fingers crossed
The 6 LEDs in each reservoir took a bit of time to solder and make neat but it has turned out OK; especially with the minimal amount of viewable wire between the reservoir and the hole into the rear service area, which I am pleased with.
I will be back later to update on how the leak testing went.............fingers crossed
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Blade Runner
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Anyone got any flippers? :huh:...............
I had a couple of leaks, the first in the GPU loop was just a joint that I had not tightened up, no big deal.
The CPU loop was more problematic; the straight pipe through the lower fan chamber was weeping. I thought it was just going to be like the other and need nipping up, no easy task with my fat fingers and its location inbetween two rads and no straight way to reach into it.
Nipping it up made no difference, so it was a case of shutting off as many valves as I could to trap the 1.5L that was already in the loop and removing the 280 rear rad, to get at the problem pipe.
When I took it apart the glue was still soft, you can see where the flecks of paint from the outside of the fitting have stuck to the semi dry glue in the picture.
All I can think is that I did not give it long enough in the UV light box and due to its location in the middle at the back of the lower fan chamber it got no natural UV to set the glue up.
A new pipe was cut and fitted and the bleeding re started; all good now on both loops.
I measured how much fluid each loop took to fill so I could order the correct amount of proper fluid once the flushing is done. it turns out that both loops, despite the different sized rads in the lower chamber, have just over 2.5L in each.
I am leaving the pumps both circulating the water to purge the remaining small air bubbles and continue to check for any leaks.
PS. Just priced up 6L of Mayhems Pastel UV fluid and it looks like I will have to sell a kidney....
I had a couple of leaks, the first in the GPU loop was just a joint that I had not tightened up, no big deal.
The CPU loop was more problematic; the straight pipe through the lower fan chamber was weeping. I thought it was just going to be like the other and need nipping up, no easy task with my fat fingers and its location inbetween two rads and no straight way to reach into it.
Nipping it up made no difference, so it was a case of shutting off as many valves as I could to trap the 1.5L that was already in the loop and removing the 280 rear rad, to get at the problem pipe.
When I took it apart the glue was still soft, you can see where the flecks of paint from the outside of the fitting have stuck to the semi dry glue in the picture.
All I can think is that I did not give it long enough in the UV light box and due to its location in the middle at the back of the lower fan chamber it got no natural UV to set the glue up.
A new pipe was cut and fitted and the bleeding re started; all good now on both loops.
I measured how much fluid each loop took to fill so I could order the correct amount of proper fluid once the flushing is done. it turns out that both loops, despite the different sized rads in the lower chamber, have just over 2.5L in each.
I am leaving the pumps both circulating the water to purge the remaining small air bubbles and continue to check for any leaks.
PS. Just priced up 6L of Mayhems Pastel UV fluid and it looks like I will have to sell a kidney....
