Subwoofer - effective in all positions?

mrapoc

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Hey all

Before I move my speakers around (sorting out room) I would like some clarification that my subwoofer will not sound any worse on top of my desk rather than underneath (they do say it doesnt matter where you "stick it")

Im doing this cause my front speakers do not have enough cable to reach to the middle of my desk where my TV is without the subwoofer being moved too Ranting

Anyone got a sub on their desk?
 
Suppose lol

How much will that set me back/which ones do I want?

I think *THINK* they are called phono cables (?)
 
It depends on the connectors.

I would have thought you'd have bare wire connections, so either solder or chocolate block on some extra length.
 
yea they are phono

and you wont believe what i found..

the extensions i bought for the rear speakers ages ago..arent actually connected and i found them lying in my drawer...

so im sorted lol...

well that was silly

reps for wasting your time :D
 
i made my own phono cables from some wire and some phono ends from rs components site, they where really cheap for gold plated phono ends, wires looked great in the end. cost me £10 inc delivery for 5.1 system worth of phono gold plated ends, and a 5m reel of cable.
 
I was in electronic sales here in the US for 16 years selling audio and video.

The answer to your question technically is yes. Base unlike treble is "non-directional". However base can be affected by it's enviornment. Meaning location or placement of the subwoofer and it's surrounding area. ie: carpeting, drapes, furniture, etc.(These are all sound absorbing materials). An ideal place for a sub is in a corner and will give you a better effect if placed there, because of the dispersion of the sound waves at that frequency . A sub is best suited to the floor as opposed to being in an elevated position. A strong sub will create sound waves that will cause vibration, ie. if placed on a table, stand or other objects.

Hope that answered your question.
 
I think that I have an rather long answer to that and I will reply. I do have to go take care of a few things but I will post this up for you when I get back. 2-3 hours.
 
I was just trying to think of "sound" traveling along a typical sinusidal wave, which has a wavelength, which by definition has direction as the wave has a length as opposed to.. well anything else.

Bass is after all the same as treble in terms of wavefronts, just the frequencies are different, i.e. waves per period.
 
name='Rastalovich' said:
I was just trying to think of "sound" traveling along a typical sinusidal wave, which has a wavelength, which by definition has direction as the wave has a length as opposed to.. well anything else.

Bass is after all the same as treble in terms of wavefronts, just the frequencies are different, i.e. waves per period.

Rasta is right. :rolleyes::rolleyes::worship::worship:
 
name='Rastalovich' said:
I was just trying to think of "sound" traveling along a typical sinusidal wave, which has a wavelength, which by definition has direction as the wave has a length as opposed to.. well anything else.

Bass is after all the same as treble in terms of wavefronts, just the frequencies are different, i.e. waves per period.

I agree with him as well. However, Once again, I think this needs to be related back to the audible frequencies and limitations of human hearing.
 
Thinking about it, it's probably more to do with bass vibrating stuff vS treble travelling to ur ear.

Used to be the case that they'd insist on the bass-box being installed to ur lower right, on the floor, close to the corner of the room. Theory being I guess that ur right ear dependent in alot of cases, and the best way to vibrate the most stuff in a room is to stick it in a corner. In effect using ur room as a cone.

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Hafmaster is indeed correct. Back when I was heavily into AV I picked up the same information. Why bass is non-directional I'm not sure, maybe it's due to the tones output by a sub being able to echo around a room much more than the treble from a tweeter?

Regardless, exactly as Haf has said. Sticking the sub in a corner and on the floor will generally put it to best use.
 
Hello, Ive had my Subwoofer on my desk, but now ive got it underneath, and it does sound better under in my opion, sorry for the late reply!!
 
Like the other posts said, in theory it doesn't matter where you put your sub, but in reality it does. It matters because of the way we perceive the lower frequency sound and it's not just the physics of things, it's also a psychological reaction of human beings to different sound frequencies. And not just humans, most animals that have a sound sensitivity close to our own.

It may sound like a bunch of BS, but here it is. Higher frequency sounds are attributed in nature as being a disturbance caused by an external influence, like a natural predator, so evolution has forced animals (us included) to learn how to pin-point the location of the higher pitched sounds because that is where the predator is.

This, coupled with the fact that the bass speaker is larger and the treble speaker is very small in comparison, make it harder to pin-point the subwoofer in a system. Sound is actually air vibrating, and the sub vibrates a lot more air then the small speaker does. By the time the sound gets to our ear it has moved a lot in the room, bounced back an forward from many surfaces and has become very uniform and confuses our ears. The small speaker however, has disturbed a lot less air and more of it is reaching our ears directly, and you can tell from what direction it came.

Anyway, we should leave the BS for a moment. I will just share my experience. A sub on the desk is the worst idea. A sub under the desk is a far better idea. But under the desk is not the best location. The best location would be near the corner of the room, a corner formed by two solid walls, and a wooden hard floor. The sub should be positioned directly on the floor (no mats or anything, since they dampen the sound). Everything around a sub will resonate, so you must really experiment which corner is best for you.

It's easy to test, just listen to the sound. If it seems really low, really clean and you feel it more in your gut then in your year then you have a winner. You will see that moving around the room, the sound feels different in all locations. So only test in your usual listening location inside the room. Subs are strange that way, moving them just 10cm in another direction changes the room dynamic.

The more powerful and the more accurate (able to reach a very low frequency response) the less the location is important. But if you have a normal, smaller, computer oriented sub, then location can make it sound like it should've cost three times more or three times less.
 
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