Solid State Help

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GavX

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Well, Christmas is nearly here and all I want is a damn working PC! :mad:

My Spinpoint 750gb decided to die just enough so my system won't POST when the HDD is plugged in, which I have never seen before. But anyway, let's cut to the chase.

I want to go down the SSD road, and was eyeing up the OCZ SSDs on Scan.co.uk, not the V2, just the red ones which I believe are budget. Read of anout 90Mb and write of 155Mb hardly seems budget, but I was thinking is there anything I should know about these? I Can easily uninstall a game I do not play so probably only need 60gb to play with as I have a file server/web browser for all other non gaming things.

Basically what SSD solution exists for me preferably under £160ish, but it is a little flexible with Xmas and no girlfriend to worry about (every cloud...)

This:

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/60GB-OCZ-Core-Series-V2-SSD

Is tempting, but then could I just RAID up a few of

These:

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/30GB-OCZ-SATA300-Solid-Solid-State-Drive

?

Sadly they are not in stock, and I ideally want to play Fallout 3 (fresh from Auzzieland) on theh 27th on my day off, or at least soon after it
 
me personaly I would not go down the route of SSD especialy with OCZ from what I have heard there sustained read/write performance isn't anything special, unless you have around £500 to throw away I would go with one or even two velociraptors I have 2x in raid 0 and they are very very fast SSD i seem to be hearing is still in its infancy.
 
Yeah, it's bagged and waiting to go but not even going to bother sending it til after Xmas as no one will look at it... I got it in April but after the first month Scan say you have to go to some othehr place, it is RMAed but I still have 3 weeks to send it away. I was always wanting SSDs, 2 60Gb OCZ V2s and a decent RAID card like a Adaptec RAID 2405 apparently can get you some beastly speeds, plus I can go "hard disks, onboard SATA? ppft, not me!"
 
have u tried that hdd on a different computer? it might not be broken, but if you was to buy a new hdd i recommend samsung f1 1tb drives, thier big and fast and quite. raptors too noisy and hot, ssd is just expensive :P
 
I haven't tried it in a different pooter but then the point being its for that computer, if it doesn't work in that one computer as far as I am concerned its faulty. It worked fine (kinda...) for 6 months then juust stopped working.

I was also thinking on getting a 60Gb OCZ Core v2, add another and a decent RAID card later down the line, saw a review of that getting something crazy like read speeds on 600Mbps!
 
gavx no disrespect but what benefit are you actualy gonna have??? other than maybe a slightly faster boot maybe and fractionaly faster os speed surely it's more or less un-noticable expensive coupled with low amount of memory space and well pointless why not raid 0 a couple of velociraptors they are more than fast enough beleive me, you then have the best of both worlds, plus they are proven fast and reliable!!!!

I too like many will go down the SSD road but its still a year or two too early at best, in that time intel will be offering there HDD's cheaper these are the ones to go for at the minute unless soemthing changes and other makers catch up not OCZ but they do of course cost alot more OCZ and many other cheaper SSD's from what I have heard have fast burst speeds but are un-sustainable.

Seems to me your getting a bit of excited and possibly are expecting a little to much from SSD's , or am I seriously missing something here?
 
Velos are hellishly noisy, and as soon as I can tame the Laing DDC Ultra pump (its awefully noisy for a DDC at the moment) my system will be whisper silent, which I like :D Besides its toying with new technology, always fun
 
name='GavX' said:
I haven't tried it in a different pooter but then the point being its for that computer, if it doesn't work in that one computer as far as I am concerned its faulty. It worked fine (kinda...) for 6 months then juust stopped working.

I was also thinking on getting a 60Gb OCZ Core v2, add another and a decent RAID card later down the line, saw a review of that getting something crazy like read speeds on 600Mbps!
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no the point of testing on a differnt computer was so you can find is it the hdd or is the sata controller on your motherboard damaged so you might wana change mobo not hdd
 
I am hoping its not the motherboard.. the warranty is somewhat void, all stock cooling ripped off :D I will test a 320gb I have formatted on it on christmas and see if all works well. The Samsung drive has always acted up, but if it is the motherboard, oh dear... :D

Always wanted an excuse to go Core i7 mind you...
 
it seems ou mind is made up, but my velociraptors I can assure you ain't ''noisy'' like the old wd raptors before, I never hear them??? and my pc is very quiet indeed p.s I don't have hearing problems LOL

Honestly think your mad to dump loads of cash into some very unproven SSD's your so much better of wit the velociraptors at the min, be wise and put the rest in your pocket.

p.s why on earth do you need a raid card???? does your m/board not have an internal solution, my rampage II has it and all previouse boards I have had it before and I see no problems whatsoever,I could of course understand if you was adding highly compley raid arrays but raid 0, I'm baffled???
 
RAID onboard is very limited, not nearly as good as a RAID card solution. I did not know Velos were quiet, and my mind is far from set, I may invest in one and another later and RAID them (however the hell you do that!)

:D Tempting, but £180 for a hard drive just seems a lot, Solid State is "ooh shiney!" and had a dangerous effect on me. After xmas I will probably invest in some velos or an SSD, thanks for the input SwaleSmith, and Merry Christmas :D (p.s. I am smashed at the moment, its amazing I typed this correctly, albiet it took toooo long :D)
 
Right SwaleSmith, I think the Velo's have won, I have heard they are not "too" noisy and alot of SSDs seem to suffer from stuttering, plus I have no idea how to get a 2.5" thing into a 5.25" bay, apart froom using tape.

I was thinking 2 of the 150gb's in RAID, but no idea on how to set up RAID in the slightest :(

Decided to get one 300gb, if I feel inclined later I will RAID them but RAID seems hellishly hard...
 
Wise move gavx

Think 1 velociraptor is fast enough for anyone, but raid is easy to setup normaly you just enable it in bios repost then press f10 and select the disks to raid 0 and walla.

what motherboard you running ???
 
ASUS Maximus Formula with the 1201 BIOS. I know you initially lose everything when RAIDing but might do it later on in the new year, but I tihkn the software RAID chip on the intel board lets the drives down ALOT, still until then should be fun, thanks for the help SwaleSmith
 
Youll enjoy,

I'm maybe not the specialist in HDD drives but I can see no reason not to use the onboard raid solution in the maximus, I would assume its much the same as using it on my rampage II

However If you don't mind re-installing your computer you may well be wiser to try one and see if it will suffice speed wise I'm sure it will there a fast drive, plus you save a few £££

so long as it has enough capacity I think your all set :D
 
well this box I am on (5000+ AM2, 2gb RAM, 4670, lots od HDDs) is for music etc, the other one is a pure gaming machine so only has games, probably less than 300gb of games thouugh and it does the job. (though not quite a Core i7.. you lucky git...)

As for onboard RAID, I think an dedicated RAID card can up the burst speeds to something crazy like 600Mbps but onboard is limited to the 300Mbps from SATA2, or something like that. I may add one come April.

£10 says it just doesn't work straight away, purely because it is me and I appear to have no luck with computers at all, fire is too common with me
 
name='GavX' said:
(...)As for onboard RAID, I think an dedicated RAID card can up the burst speeds to something crazy like 600Mbps but onboard is limited to the 300Mbps from SATA2, or something like that.
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In my knowledge: wrong. The dedicated card is just as limited as the northbridge. The northbridge as well as the dedicated are limited at 300mbps per drive. After that the northbridge is directly connected to the FSB where the dedicated is connected to the PCI-express controller (southbridge?), which is connected to the FSB.

So in either case you will probably not reach the 300mbps/cable limit. And if you do, it's more probable that your cpu cannot keep up :p
 
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