Wee update on my side, tested them, they are good, but I don't really think THAT good, I mean with my X-Fi Extreme Music and Zalman 5.1s, the bass was excelent, these deffinitly have better directional placement, but the bass seems underpowering and the headphones really are not comfy for long gaming sessions. Soundcard does the trick I suppose, again it can't top the X-Fi for music, but then I only need it purely for gaming, as when it is finished the Barracuda is going to the main PC, and this one (file server) will be taking back the X-Fi and play my music etc