People who pretend they know loads about computers :@

[jimbo]

I get annoyed with people that are under the impression that "8 cores are better than 4".

Pal of mine bought an FX 8120 a little while ago and spammed his news feed with posts about it. I didn't want to burst his bubble at first but eventually it began to annoy me.
I suggested to him that he should have bought a 2500K as it is VASTLY superior to his CPU, to which he replied: "Yeah but mine has twice as many cores and it's got more GHz which means it's faster".

I don't knowledge, anyway.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that this his PSU "popped" about 3 days ago. He was using some CiT piece of £$@&. I rest my case.

 

[yassarikhan786]

received a message from a friend yesterday that his pc wont turn on so i offered to go look at it he replied "its ok i took it to pc world they said it was broke so i bought a new gaming one" i asked if he still had the one i built for him last year he said yeah but its broke i went and looked at it all what was wrong with it was a loose sata cable.. reconnected it to his ssd and well was fixed...

the gaming rig pc world sold him put it this way i would burn it..

core i3
z68 msi motherboard the basic one..
2x4gb 1066mhz dd3 generic ram
2tb HDD
windows 8 basic edition..
grapics card was a hd6870 as he only had it less than a few hours i told him to take it back and get his money back his reply "but its a gaming pc cost me £775

the rig i built him last year

core i5 2500k
asus maximus iv
8gb 2133mhz corsair ram
120gb ssd
1tb hdd
560ti
blueray drive

actually spent less on the one i built him that what he spent at pc world yesterday.. i told him it was junk and wont play his favorite game at anything playable..

so he tried bf3 on his shiny 24" 1200p monitor and guess who was right..

so we proceeded to pack it up and take it back to pc world where i took his pc back in with me and showed them how i fixed it there tech guy charged him £40 and didnt even look at it.. i was not impressed got a full refund on the pc + the £40 tech guy charge refunded afaik the tech guy now no longer works there i made a massive stink in the store and well im now banned from the premises but it was worth it.

i think i cost them about 30 customers who were in there when i was going off on one lol

Wow, good riddance I say to the PC World Tech.

 

[Yeren]

i was in PC world last week with a mate of mine who was looking for ideas for a new monitor really wanted a 2560x1440 one

so after being in there for 2 seconds we get to compulsory "hey sir can i help you?"

US - yes we ware looking for any 27" monitors you may have in a 2560x1440 resolution!
PCW - sorry sir any screen size over 24" is classed as TV and not a monitor.
US - OK so what abotut he resolution, do you hold any screens with that resolution?
PCW - sorry sir that resolution isnt available on the UK.
ME - Hmmm wierd that as i currently have one sat on my desk at home.
PCW - Then sir you must of imported it.

Walk away

ask another chap who turns out to be the assistant manager, his replies were even better

That resolution isnt sold in thew UK and is not compatible with PC gaming.

also asked if they ever stocked a high end GPU. we have a GTX610 on sale which is one of the best GPU's on the market.

walk away again

 

[remember300]

slaps head... anyone who belongs on these forums admits if they dont know something ... they dont make stuff up like that to justify ignorance,,, i see why you get so annoyed. but you can sit happy when he goes back to the guy after checking his own specs and it proves the guy was lying, you can chuckle

 

[remember300]

make you laugh they charge for a service!

 

[Scoob]

Yeah, PC world certainly ripped your friend off firstly for not bothering (& likely not capable) of fixing the issue he came in for. Secondly for selling him that PC. Even if his rig had been genuinely beyond repair - however unlikely it is that ALL components fail - that "gaming" rig was no replacement.

Now personally I LOVE PC world...gone mad have I? Well maybe lol, however PC world being PC world make MISTAKES (no!) so, when a few years ago they'd miss priced some high-capacity (of the day) HDD's for half the price...well, we had a few of those & they've done similar things in the past. Buying laptops too, helped my friend get one for a good £150 cheaper than elsewhere, purely because they'd banked on being able to sell a load of extra shit with it that was worthless to my friend. They actually got quite pissy when he said no to extended warranty (it had 3 years already) no to a software bundle (he had software from his old machine) said no the the maintennance contract (it had a 3 year warrantly remember) plus I live over the road so can assist with trivial things. The sales lady actually REFUSED to deal with us any more after we refused all the "extras" but my friend walked out with the good laptop and about £400 more in his pocket!

Re: the cores thing. Anyone remember seeing those early multi-core ads where they used to ADD UP the core speeds for the spec list? I.e. my old Q6600 2.4 ghz quad would be listed as "equivalent of 9.6ghz" so, 2.4 x 4! Crazy. I even had chats with people swearing how their quads were DOUBLE the speed of the equivalent dual. So funny.

I have to add that the annoying this about PC world is how they think they're RIGHT when they're so evidently not - as in the "screens larger than 24" are TV's" example above. Sometimes though you do encounter someone who's "one of us" so to speak, i.e. someone who knows about their tech. Encountered one such in one of the Reading PC worlds last year - he was very informed on the incoming tech & had some fairly impressive kit himself. Guess he won't be working there any more lol.

Scoob.

 

[DmXtReMe]

aha i knew there would be a thread like this.... every forum has one haha

i have got a bazillion stories about people "thinking they know all that about computers" when in reality they know enough to be dangerous to others and themselves but that's about it.

Now i certainly dont profess to know everything not by a long shot i did however spend 5 or so years studying for my diploma in information technology and various other certifications so i know a bit. but the insane thing is how many people out there that can barely install windows and think there some sort of "technician" is just plain stupid.

Here is one scenario
I walk into a computer store in need of a molex to 8 pin pcie adapter as at the time my psu didnt have one and i had imported the 9800GX2 in which an adapter wasn't bundled. Now these guys advertise that they are all about "cutting edge technology" well apparently anyway.

So i ask the pleb at the front counter about said adapter

his reply was "no video card on the planet needs an 8pin pcie power connector

My Reply:
was i suggest you go read about the 9800GX2

His Reply: Mate our store is all about the cutting edge technology for computers if i say it doesn't there isn't one then there isn't one

My Reply: Shows him the video card.

His Reply: Get Out! :O

Another Scenario is:

I was getting micro studder from an SLI config due to a driver related issue i was talking to a friend about it on team speak anyway this other clown says oh its because you need to defrag.... i' am like what the f***k he went on to say dude you have a gaming machine you need to defrag at least once a week. my only response to that was dude.... if you truely think that throw your pc in the bin and never ever sit in front of one again !

2nd Part To my Rant:

People that apparently know about computers and know how to push them to their limits but in reality they have no idea. I have come across people through out time saying "Oh i' am an overclocking extrodinair" and iam sitting there like fair enough and way they proceed to say oh don't buy that heat sink its crap i think it was a Swiftech heatsink at the time anyways he proceeded to say yea i was overclocking pumping i think it was something like 1.8vcore on a P4 Northwood i think it was and all he was bitching about was it kept crashing.

My reply to that was what the hell are you doing running 1.8v through a P4 Northwood on aircooling!!

His Reply: oh i need that much voltage to get my 600mhz overclock....

My Reply: bangs head on desk repeatedly, then went on to say well 1.8v is way way way more than you need for the 600mhz overclock and the simple fact was the amount of voltage running through the cpu was an insane amount for being on an aircooled system and that heatsink couldnt possibly disapate the heat that was coming off the cpu because of the voltage settings

His Reply: was like no your an idiot go back to playing with your sega because you have no idea.

My Reply: to that was LOL really, well its funny because i just happen to have a P4 Prescott 2.8 @ 3.8ghz with alot less voltage and running much cooler well mainly because of using a custom water cooling loop at the time. as well as only running i think it was around 1.5v i think i dunno cant remember the exact numbers but you guys get the idea lol.

 

[remember300]

pahahaha what a load of baloney these people come out with lol or worse when you know your right and they think they know best. i try and do my homework for were i work. i like to give honest but truthful answers to those i assist. and i refuse to be corrected if i know the answer is right to the fact i had to go into my office print off a gpu spec and throw it at a customer ... in technical shops the customer is not always right loool

 

[FredEx]

You don't run into problems with computer things just at the stores.

I went to my Credit Union (Bank) two weeks ago. I spoke to a newer teller, told her I wanted to see somebody about an on-line banking problem. She said she could check it right there. I explained to her that in two accounts, my own and in my mom's, I can't do transfers in our accounts. I then explained that I pay a couple loans by transferring the money. When I set-up the transfer and hit SUBMIT it says it is working and after 15 minutes times out. She said, "Oh that is easy. Your connection is too slow." I said, "Oh really?" Her, "Yes, you can't send the data fast enough before it times out after 15 minutes." I sighed and said, "I hate to say this, but I have a faster connection than the credit union here does. A friend with my ISP maintains your equipment. Believe me, speed is not the problem." I had to insist that I see somebody half a dozen times before she'd keep quiet and go see somebody. Ends up the President was the only one available and he invited me in his office. I explained the issue. He pushed his laptop over to me and told me to log-in and then he'd try a transfer using my account instead of the internal network. I logged on to my mom's account. He could not get a transfer to work. He saw the same problem I'd explained. We tried my account and the same thing happened. So then he logged into his own account as if at home and it worked for him. He called in the head loan person, she did a transfer on her account and it worked, she tried her kids account and it would not work. That had them scratching their heads. He said he'd transfer the money for me on the internal network. I told him I want to do it at the teller, that I need to get some cash too.

I went to the same teller. She asked with an attitude, "So, did it work?" I normally am very easy going and would blow that off but I said, "Don't be so damn snarky, my accounts did not work on his computer, his worked, the loan officers worked, but her kids account timed out just like mine do. Some work, some don't. They are contacting somebody to look into it." Out of the corner of my eye I could see the other teller holding back from laughing out loud. I then told her I need to do the transfer to pay the loan via my mom's account since it will only work via their internal network, then I need to get cash from my account. She didn't say another word, just did what I told her I needed done. Well, she did count out my money.

Later I got a call from the banks software folks, they could find nothing wrong. I talked to her a while and told her it started after they totally updated their system last December 1st. I asked what the President told her. I had to explain everything we did in his office, that some accounts worked and some did not. I told her I hope they continue to work on this because something is wrong. I have been doing transfers for years until this update. We ended the call.

I played around, after a while I did discover something. Firefox did not work, Chrome did not work, Opera did not work, Safari did not work and IE did not work. Now when shit like this happens I get obsessed. I stripped each browser down to a minimum, nothing added, none worked and I finally got to IE again. I stripped it down to nothing added and IT WORKED! Okay, the only thing that works is IE with nothing added. I called the woman and told her what I found. I told her way back when the credit union first started offering on-line banking you HAD to use IE. Then before a year was up they added other browser support. She remembered that. I told her this is not the same though, the President had Chrome on his laptop and the loan officer said she uses Firefox at work and at home. I said, "You folks have a huge problem since IE here is at only 13 % of browser share, the majority of people are using something else. Also, IE stripped down is all that will work for people having this issue. How many people have a clue how to shut anything down in IE?" She said, "Okay, thanks for figuring this out, whatever that is, we have to look into this."

:huh: :lol:

ADDITION: Hmmmm...I'll do the date Euro style...I noticed on 13/5/2013 that now I can go do on-line banking transfers on any browser again. Evidently they found a problem in the code and fixed it.

 

[remember300]

lool, well the main thing at least you are sorted. i think they are so used to dealing with the average joe when someone with more knowledge comes along they still think they know more, and she was proverbially just regurgitating something another college had said in her presence.

 

[Charliew87]

Im a member on a Swedish forum for overclockers where the blondes are obviously allowed too.

Yesterday I was running benchmarks on databases at work, which means I had almost the full day for websurfing , so I spent my time giving build advices to people, generally people who were building HTPCs using I3's instead of trinitys. The HD4000 really hasnt got anything on A10-5800K, yet the A10-5800K is actually cheaper in Sweden, and the mobos are too. So that made me an enemy of the state by the intel fanboys, which was weird seeing as I guess you would call me an intel-fanboy myself.


So I had this guy who was building his "gaming rig" with a 650, he had the 3770K in his build and I told him that it would be overkill for a 650 GPU build. He went hostile and started yelling about how much money he had and how long he had built computers.

Basically, after abouts 10 posts of recommending 3570k, explaining why it would be better bang/buck wize for gaming, he choose to take the 660ti instead.
5 posts after that he started saying that his GTX260 would be about the same as the 660ti was, only the 660ti was newer, and because of that he should get the 690.

Logic went off a cliff and people started asking what he was on about, and this was his answer (google translate):

Totally agree! But my old GTX 260 is still hanging in there! Not some of the worst games of course! But still.
A 260 card is enough to compare with a 660 stock on his time ie.
Therefore, I have decided for a 690 card (which performs almost twice as good as 680 or Radeons variant.)

This was after telling everyone who was helping his off for being noobs ofcourse.

 

[B3rni3]

You get this with lots of things too for example cars. I got my car NCT'd last year, it is the same as the UK's MOT. Anyway I told the tester when handing him the keys to my car that the car is exempt from emissions testing as it is a rotary engine. He said ok and took the car in for testing.

As I watched from the waiting room I saw him pop the bonnet and basically look at my engine for a good 5 minutes trying to figure out what the hell it was . He even called over two other testers and they had a good chat and were pointing at various things under the bonnet.

After a few more minutes he went and tried to do the emissions test. He was scratching his head when looking at the readout because the emissions were so high and he didn't understand why.

So after the test he comes into the waiting room and calls my name. I go into the office to get the results and was told the car passed everything except it failed on the emissions. At this point I told him that the car was exempt and that I had told him this before the test.

His response was to go off on a completely unrelated tangent about how high emissions means the car is running rich which is bad for the engine and it would lead to the engine wearing out faster.

At this point I fucking freaked. I said to him in front of all the other people having their car tested that I had told him it was exempt and that I was told this from the head office. I also told him that I had tested the car before and it was exempt as it was never tested. I also told him that the reason the car was giving a high reading was because the car has no catalytic converter and the fact that the engine is not mapped yet hence why it wont rev past 3.5k rpm.

He then tried to defend himself by saying he was the qualified mechanic and that I was not and that he had seen the car had a catalytic converter and when doing the underbody inspection and that I should go away and learn something before trying to sound smart.

My response was. You should go back to fas (apprentice training school) and ask for a refund because what you saw under the car was a resonated mid pipe not a catalytic converter. I said one does the job of cleaning the emissions and the other is there to keep the noise levels from the exhaust down. Secondly the reason it runs rich is because it is a rotary engine and not a piston engine. Thirdly rotaries need to run rich as the extra fuel helps keep the combustion chamber cooler and stops detonation. It also helps lubricate the rotor tips which helps prevent wear. I told him and showed him pictures of me rebuilding the engine from the ground up and modifying the intake ports and various other parts such as the ignition system. I also explained what the water tank was in the cars booth. It was a water injection system which is installed to help keep knock/detonation down when I tune the ecu which also allows me to increase the boost and fuel injectors and thus increase the cars power.

At this point the tester said to me if I was right then to contact the head office. I did later that day and they said they would send me out my pass certificate.

The tester turned out to be the head guy in the center. I would have loved to know what the people in the waiting room were thinking as I corrected him on everything he tried to say to me.

You always get people like this in everything unfortunately. I generally just ignore them but every so often I have to put them in their place when they annoy me.

 

[Scoob]

I'm sure many area's of expertise have things like this happen. My car too wasn't exempt from that MOT emmsion regs, rather it had a different standard applied. This was because my exact model did not appear on the MOT database (being a limited edition, with different engine components) so had to be tested using these different rules.

I only discovered this by accident, I was sat with the MOT tester as he was going through the cars trying to find my model (this is the OLD system, things are different now) and he was like:

Him: "this is close enough to your car2...I'll pick that"
Me: "that is not my car, that model has a different engine"
Him: "what about this one...?"
Me: "that's not my car, that's even more different"
Him: "Ok, it's not on the list, that's fine, we'll use these rules"

In this example the guy listened to me, realised I was right & made no fuss at all. However, I can see how many would NOT do this and happily put my car through as the wrong model / variant meaning that technically I did not have a valid MOT. Imagine if I had an accident and the insurer was checking my documention & found I had an MOT which listed an entirely different car? He ain't gonna pay out.

Thankfully, as in my example above, many people are happy to be informed that something isn't as they believe. However, you do get those whose minimal knowledge seems to equip them only with arrogance...

On an aside, it was always funny to see certain garages open the bonnet of one of my cars to check the engine / oil etc. only to look very bemused when there was no engine evident. They'd then go around back and open the boot...still no engine, more bemusement. Then they'd finally realise that the grills in the MIDDLE of the car were there for a reason and finally get there.

On that note, I just remembered this one from years ago...

I used to have to visit one of our company sites miles away periodically. They had a parking policy saying "All cars MUST reverse park in the marked bays" they gave the reason that this policy was put in place after a car fire where they could not get to the engine bay due to the car having nosed into the space, preventing access.

Now, I understood the reasoning behind this policy, it made sense after such an incident & I didn't blame them. However, if I adhered to the rules in my Mid-engined car (engine bay access from the rear) I'd be going against exactly what it was intended to prevent. The security guys got this, being into their cars, however once again you can see how this could have gone the other way - I think many of us here would have expected it to!

Sorry for the slight off-topic there

Scoob.

 

[FredEx]

You get this with lots of things too for example cars.

This is computer related, since when this happened they didn't use computers yet. :lol:

Having been a gearhead all my life, older bro's 6 and 7 years older than me got me started very early, we have run into a lot. I also worked my way through electronics tech school by working in the service department of a large car dealership. We sold Pontiac, IHC (International Harvestor), Honda's and Briklins. I was not certified, but I could "assist" a certified mechanic. They liked me so much they offered me a full time job after I graduated from tech school, but I love working on cars, but didn't want to have to as a career. I went into the electronics.

Sorry, rambling...

A few years later my step-father had a full size Chevy van that had developed a very firm brake pedal. When visiting one weekend I borrowed the van and thought, "HOLY SHIT!" From experience back when at the dealer I knew what it was. I went to several parts places and I'd say, "I need a power brake booster check valve." It was amazing the blank looks I got. They didn't have a clue. This was in the day before everything was on the computer like now. After hitting about 6 places I bit the bullet and headed to a Chevy dealership. This extremely cute tiny (4'6" or 137 cm) young blonde girl came up to the counter and asked if she could help me. I let out a big sigh and said, "I have a 1976 full size Chevy Van and I need a power brake booster check valve." Without missing a beat she said, "Which one?" I could not speak for a while...finally I said, "The one at the booster." She walked away and being about 24 then the fantastic view as she walked away brought me back to reality. She brought me the part and I apologized for my surprised response. I explained what I'd been through and nobody else knew what I was talking about and she knew right away there was two, one at the booster and another inline in the vacuum line halfway between going from the engine to the one at the booster. She laughed, said she gets surprised looks all the time. She said her grandpa and dad had a parts shop in another state east of us and they did service work there too and she grew up helping there. Good thing meeting her there, we went out few times, but I worked in another state to the west and she moved back to where she was originally from, which was to the east. Fun while it lasted, I still hear from her and she is a grandmother now.

Now days it is different, I could get the part anywhere. One of the best parts places in town is run by the granddaughter of a guy I went to high school with and she knows her stuff.

 

[Robi_G]

Where to begin with examples of people pretending to know about tech?
Currys: Is the (£15) USB dongle compatible with your router, might need a new one *points to £60 router*. I walked out, was only asking about the transfer speeds, went to Maplin instead.
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Friend 1: My laptop has 750GB of memory, yours only has 8GB, that's crap. Couldn't seem to grasp that RAM and HDD were different things.
Also says X-box 360 maxes out crisis 3 beta but doesn't acknowledge that the graphics are turned down for consoles.
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Friend 2: My laptop keeps shutting down and the fans spin up loads and the sound doesn't work
told him to get rid of the dust in it as it was filthy. He ignored that
2 months later he says to me, took the back off my laptop last night to change the disc drive, loads of dust came out and now the sound works!
*facepalm*
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Friend 3: FX4100 will beat an i5 3570k at everything. Nvidia beat AMD no matter what GPU. Computer overheats after 2 hours but it's all good. Thinks he knows everything to do with computers without actually researching anything about them.
I enjoy this rant section too much

 

[SeekaX]

all of that, who hasn't experienced it. usually you can argue with most people, but the xbox and new games issue they will probably never understand. sure is sad when you use technology and don't even have basic knowledge about it.

 

[remember300]

Where to begin with examples of people pretending to know about tech?
Currys: Is the (£15) USB dongle compatible with your router, might need a new one *points to £60 router*. I walked out, was only asking about the transfer speeds, went to Maplin instead.
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Friend 1: My laptop has 750GB of memory, yours only has 8GB, that's crap. Couldn't seem to grasp that RAM and HDD were different things.
Also says X-box 360 maxes out crisis 3 beta but doesn't acknowledge that the graphics are turned down for consoles.
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Friend 2: My laptop keeps shutting down and the fans spin up loads and the sound doesn't work
told him to get rid of the dust in it as it was filthy. He ignored that
2 months later he says to me, took the back off my laptop last night to change the disc drive, loads of dust came out and now the sound works!
*facepalm*
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Friend 3: FX4100 will beat an i5 3570k at everything. Nvidia beat AMD no matter what GPU. Computer overheats after 2 hours but it's all good. Thinks he knows everything to do with computers without actually researching anything about them.
I enjoy this rant section too much

whoop go maplin
lol as you can see im proud to work there.

and yeah just sometimes though when people dont want to listen it grates on the brain

 

[SeekaX]

just got this reply after saying that the PS4 has no power
"@SeekaX_ @AMDRadeon no power?!?!? are you high? a x86-64 AMD "Jaguar," 8 core, with 8 gb of ram and 1.84 TFLOPS, AMD GPU, USB 3.0 #COMEON!"
1.84 TFLOP/S!!! i can read that! sounds special, sony said so! USB3.0 SO FAST!
mfw my 7950 gets ~3TFLOP/S and a titan gets ~4.5TFLOP/s
console-tards

 

[Rich_]

im one of those people that doesnt know shit, as long as this thing doesnt blow up i'll consider it a success, and lecture you all about what you're doing wrong and why you should do it my way.

I used to call everything inside a computer case the hard drive :lol:

I still do, my hard drive is clocked at 4.5 ghz and doesnt get hot, my rectangle hard drive that i plug my monitor into is pretty good too but i wanna get a new one with more hard drive power for my video games i like those amd hard drives

 

[dalewakelin]

Hahahahaha :yelrotflmao: