Online piracy punishments dropped in UK

Just no, even if a developer does not provide a demo there are always reviews and youtube play throughs. Simply no excuse any more for Piracy.

reviews are some1 else's opinion of the game if their tastes don't match mine then their opinion is flawed, I have bought games after watching a play through and been disappointed
 
reviews are some1 else's opinion of the game if their tastes don't match mine then their opinion is flawed, I have bought games after watching a play through and been disappointed

Dude the only reason why people pirate games is because of how easy it is. You wouldnt steal, i dont know, a blender (for example). There are no demos for that, are there? Yet you still wouldnt steal one. It should be the same for games and other software. Piracy is theft, face it.
 
If I buy a blender and it doesn't live up to expectations I can return it to the shop for a full refund within normally 30 day.
If I buy a game and it doesn't live up to the hype expectation well try returning that nope
Testing a game to see if it's as good as the hype or it looks is saving me money and not putting money into developers pockets for substandard games
 

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Dude the only reason why people pirate games is because of how easy it is. You wouldnt steal, i dont know, a blender (for example). There are no demos for that, are there? Yet you still wouldnt steal one. It should be the same for games and other software. Piracy is theft, face it.

I thought you were done?



The thing is, again, if the fucking Blender doesn't work you can RETURN IT, get a full refund or replacement.

You cannot do that with PC games, once bought, you're buggered.

The games industry literally could less of a fuck about gamers post-sale these days, once you've bought it, they could not give a shit what your experience is. They have your money, bye bye.

Games don't have demo's now they have Beta's which you often have to PAY extra to enter into, and often are huge misrepresentations of what the game will really be.

Look at Aliens Colonial Marines? what a massive PR scam that was, most of the shit they showed as being IN THE GAME, never appeared it was all bullshit. For this exact reason the review embargo was the release day of the title!!
 
If I buy a blender and it doesn't live up to expectations I can return it to the shop for a full refund within normally 30 day.
If I buy a game and it doesn't live up to the hype expectation well try returning that nope
Testing a game to see if it's as good as the hype or it looks is saving me money and not putting money into developers pockets for substandard games

You could buy a physical copy. Its your choice that you choose not to do so. With a physical copy you usually get a return period up to 30 days.
 
You could buy a physical copy. Its your choice that you choose not to do so. With a physical copy you usually get a return period up to 30 days.

No, you don't. They have CDKeys and once you break the seal on the case (the plastic wrapping) you can't take them back. End of discussion as far as the shops are concerned.
 
No, you don't. They have CDKeys and once you break the seal on the case (the plastic wrapping) you can't take them back. End of discussion as far as the shops are concerned.

Well as far as that goes it depends on the shop, because Ive had experiences where I was allowed to return the game. Anyway, I still think that game piracy is wrong because you know what the risk is. Its not like there are any surprises. A game might be bad, but there are videos and reviews on them. Just because you do not have access to demos/refunds/etc. does not mean that you should have the right to pirate a game. If you dont take the time to look at reviews/gameplay, or pay money, then you should not be allowed to experience a game that took a lot of effort to create.
 
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Well as far as that goes it depends on the shop, because Ive had experiences where I was allowed to return the game. Anyway, I still think that game piracy is wrong because you know what the risk is. Its not like there are any surprises. A game might be bad, but there are videos and reviews on them. Just because you do not have access to demos/refunds/etc. does not mean that you should have the right to pirate a game. If you dont take the time to look at reviews/gameplay, or pay money, then you should not be allowed to experience a game that took a lot of effort to create.

I agree with this when it come to small developers however ubisoft and other triple A companies...
I looked at reviews/gameplay alot before I buy a game. I still get screwed over often. Don't tell me otherwise. Its the same for most people I know as well. GTA V is an example of that.

Nothing beats experiencing the game. The last game I had a demo of I actually bought because I tried it. Kerbal Space Program does it right. The demo is an older version of the full game without alot of the content. My feelings on the matter is more demos= less Piracy.
 
I agree with this when it come to small developers however ubisoft and other triple A companies...
I looked at reviews/gameplay alot before I buy a game. I still get screwed over often. Don't tell me otherwise. Its the same for most people I know as well. GTA V is an example of that.

Nothing beats experiencing the game. The last game I had a demo of I actually bought because I tried it. Kerbal Space Program does it right. The demo is an older version of the full game without alot of the content. My feelings on the matter is more demos= less Piracy.

Well I guess its really impossible to change peoples minds about piracy. I still think its wrong, but to each their own I suppose. If I think a game is not going to be good, or it is a risk, I just wont buy it, simple. Anyway, I understand that people want the game, and they dont want to risk their money. Eventually we will have better laws and people will have no choice, because pirating wont be an option.
 
Eventually we will have better laws and people will have no choice, because pirating wont be an option.

Lol better laws. Pirating will always happen. The governments are always a few decades behind. Don't get me started on anti-piracy lobbies either.
 
It's as easy to download a game from Steam as it is to pirate one.
It's EASIER to pirate music than it is to buy it.
It's as easy to pirate a tv show/movie as it is to by it.

Until people will rather wait for a game to go on 75% off on Steam because it's less hassle than pirating, this will always be a thing.

Also, psychology dictates that if you buy a game and don't like it, you have a negative response, blaming yourself that it was a poor purchase. If you pirate a game and you don't like it, you actually have a positive response, because you're grateful you didn't spend the money, which will ultimately make you even more fearful of spending money in the first place.

It's a tricky beast and to be honest I think all the ISPs should make a bigger push to lock down torrenting websites, since it's one of the things that actually does work against piracy.
 
Lol better laws. Pirating will always happen. The governments are always a few decades behind. Don't get me started on anti-piracy lobbies either.

Sure they are always behind and now they're not doing shit, but if ISPs take proper action and shut peoples internet down, and piracy is taken seriously as a crime, things can change. Not that piracy will stop any time soon, but I think eventually it will.
 
The main reason i sometmes pirate games/software is because it has been leaked and it is available to download before the official version comes out, for example watch dogs

Its so easy to pirate games :)
Usually it will be a rip of original dvd or steam rip on .iso file, you install it just like a normal game, and copy the attached crack to where the game was installed
 
The main reason i sometmes pirate games/software is because it has been leaked and it is available to download before the official version comes out, for example watch dogs

Its so easy to pirate games :)
Usually it will be a rip of original dvd or steam rip on .iso file, you install it just like a normal game, and copy the attached crack to where the game was installed

Okay so you pirate games because you can get them earlier. But do you buy them when released?
 
Okay so you pirate games because you can get them earlier. But do you buy them when released?

If I enjoyed playing it then yes

also i probably pirated like £20,000 overall of software/games and i never got into legal trouble because of it
 
Piracy is a reality, however the outcome is the thing that matters. If there is no money for development as only a few people buy, the less quality games/software/music/art or whatever creative enterprise you name will be created.

I have been writing code for 30 years and my personal belief is that people should be rewarded for their hard work, not stolen from. There is almost always a way to make a judgement call on a piece of software, and yet if you still get it wrong, so be it. Keep track of the titles/authors/publishers that don't meet your needs, and don't reward them with your money.

--Rick--
 
Piracy is a reality, however the outcome is the thing that matters. If there is no money for development as only a few people buy, the less quality games/software/music/art or whatever creative enterprise you name will be created.

I have been writing code for 30 years and my personal belief is that people should be rewarded for their hard work, not stolen from. There is almost always a way to make a judgement call on a piece of software, and yet if you still get it wrong, so be it. Keep track of the titles/authors/publishers that don't meet your needs, and don't reward them with your money.

--Rick--

Exactly. +1
 
I think the majority know the options there are, trouble is some are to expensive!

The only thing I download is WWE because after a year of paying £100 a month on a Sky package just to watch that is stupid. If they just let me have sports without all the other garbage they'd be having some money from me as opposed to none.

the reason why you have to pay for WWE is because rupert murdoch has a contract with the WWE in the UK and he has no intention of letting go of it, before that happened you could watch it on channel 4 for free even the ALL PPV's! Since the F1 went to SKY viewings of the sport have drop meaning the sponsors don't get as much for advertising so some are starting to pull out, in turn kills the sport i love over money...

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/478349-exclusive-target-date-for-wwe-network-to-be-available-in-uk

or if you can't wait..

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/451354/blog/how-to-get-wwe-network-on-your-uk-ps3-ps4-or-ipad/
 
the reason why you have to pay for WWE is because rupert murdoch has a contract with the WWE in the UK and he has no intention of letting go of it, before that happened you could watch it on channel 4 for free even the ALL PPV's! Since the F1 went to SKY viewings of the sport have drop meaning the sponsors don't get as much for advertising so some are starting to pull out, in turn kills the sport i love over money...

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/478349-exclusive-target-date-for-wwe-network-to-be-available-in-uk

or if you can't wait..

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/451354/blog/how-to-get-wwe-network-on-your-uk-ps3-ps4-or-ipad/

Don't even get me started on F1 and Rupert Murderer! My beloved sport is being slowly torn apart because of that bellend!
 
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