My insane Rig

[B NEGATIVE]

I see a lot of madness in this thread.

If you want overkill,buy a SR-2,a board that actually uses 1200w+ PSU's..
You will need no more than a 850w for your projected rig.

Get a SSD for the OS,one for games and HDD's for bulk storage.

 

[Mix]

I think you should consider a 850w psu. It will be plenty and you can get one that is 160mm long. A longer PSU always has the risk of causing space issues especially when having an internal wc build. So seeing as you never know what you will want to build in the future, I think a shorter psu is more "future proof" than a longer one. I would trust real world tests much more than calculators in power consumption.

I don't think you should raid ssds for only performance reasons. Raid always increases the chance of problems so only raid the ssds if its for the fun of it.
When it comes to storage use. You don't need speed and you never know how much space you will need, so more space is more future proof. So why not get some HDDs for storage and go overkill on size not speed. A quieter system is better than a loud one and as I said, speed isn't needed for storage so a slower HDD which is quieter is better than a faster one, imo.

Now the dominators are good, but you can get the same performance cheaper, but they look good and thats what you are paying for. I think a build like this should also look super nice, so I say go for the doms, but IF you don't like the look of them, there is no reason to get them over something else. I would also advise you to make up you mind on how much RAM you want now, rather than getting some now and getting a bit more later. This way you can buy a single set and avoid any compatibility problems.

The dual gpus is all about overkill fun. I would say get the 2x680, not because its future proofing, but because of the fun of it.

As for future proofing in general, so your old build isn't cutting it anymore. What kind of better performance could you have bought back then? A gpu that has 10% better performance? Would that added 10% really have made your system last longer?

If I had the money, I would personally not spend huge sums just to get the system to last half a year longer, but instead use it on something like insanely good speakers to go with my insane build that will be good for pretty much forever, but thats just me. (I have a little audiophile inside me)

Ok il do this in reverse just to Mix it up

(see what I did there)

(Yes I laughed and I know you did as well)

Right speakers my Dad would kill me FarCry 3 on some 300w 7.1 system. Well, when I put it like that and I am putting in a blu-ray. No, I can add that in later.

As for my current build more like a 30% increase over all mainly on the GPU and RAM though.

2 GTX 680 for sure possibly 3 though that is just wishful thinking most likely still have to look at other thinks for PIC slots sound, RAID cards if needed.

Any one who thinks the DOM PL DIMM's dont look good needs the eyes checked but I am unsure of performance increase over the TridentX. I am manually having to compare benchmarks and we both know benchmarks dont mean jack in the real world. Though the Dom's are more expensive but they do look amazing and the TridentX heat spreader is for show the Dominator Pl is not from what I have seen so far.

Has for HDD vs SSD vs RAID HDD/SSD. I am very aware of the gains but I am working on the theory that SSD will take longer to fail over HDD for obvious reasons. So in terms of future proofing only SSD's are the better bet. Though I see the writing on the wall. Not sure how to proceed on that one.

Lastly if you have a spare 40 mins or so watch the review of the Cosmos II on the OC3D youtube channel. Size is not a problem and I am probably only going to have one rad but I have budgeted for two but I MUST have the case with all the parts installed before I make that call as only then could I see how much room I really have.

 

[Mix]

I see a lot of madness in this thread.

If you want overkill,buy a SR-2,a board that actually uses 1200w+ PSU's..
You will need no more than a 850w for your projected rig.

Get a SSD for the OS,one for games and HDD's for bulk storage.

Will look into what you have said but unsure.

Yes a huge trailer full of madness but its not called an insane rig for nothing.

 

[Mix]

My way of future proofing is to buy a good motherboard cpu combination which supports lots of mem for todays standard. And enough modern standards sata3 usb3 enough pci-e. And don't get pci32 bits and such very old thing on your motherboard. And don't spend to much money on video cards.

In 2002 i bought a dual socket amd xp 2400+ and i allready had a ati radeon 64. Later i bought a x1600 card (for battlefield2) in 2005. In 2007 i bought a e6600 on a insane asus workstation motherboard with pci-x 133mhz and 2x pci-e 8x and a 8600gts after 3 months i swapped with a friend and got a Q6600 which i clocked on 3ghz in 2009 i bought a 9800GT (for farcry2) and late 2011 i bought a gtx570 (for Battlefield3)

So in june 2012 i bought a i7 3770k and put the gtx570 in

So if you really want to spend some money go for a socket 2011 with a 6core and put in a videocard which can play today games. (Single 680) And if we have crysis4 over 2 years then put a newer card in. So my plan is 5 years motherboard cpu combination and 2 to 3 years with the graphics card.

Overspending don't future proof your system i you have 2 insane expensive video cards you never gonna upgrade it because there where so expensive

I see what your saying my main problem is cash flow, and will be for some time, and right now I am needing a new rig and having/will have the money to spend on it. So I am trying to see if you can build a 5 or more year PC cheaper than upgrading ever year or couple years. If it works I win if it dont then I will still have a PC that will be very powerful but I have over spent a bit. So il know better next time but over all I win and can buget for a new PC properly and there for get a kick ass PC when I need a new one not when I find out that the new game that I realy really want will be to much for my current rig

 

[B NEGATIVE]

There is Insane and then there is being wasteful......

I dont get what you are unsure about? An 850 is more than enough for 2 cards and a Mainboard+CPU,go to jonnyguru and find out for yourself.
Take it from me,I have built a few rigs in my time.....


And i do overkill properly.

 

[Mix]

There is Insane and then there is being wasteful......

I dont get what you are unsure about? An 850 is more than enough for 2 cards and a Mainboard+CPU,go to jonnyguru and find out for yourself.
Take it from me,I have built a few rigs in my time.....


And i do overkill properly.

Just looked at the SR-2 and just one question why would you compare the SR-2 to the Rampage IV Extreme? I may be missing something but it's the Rampage all the way as far as I can see. As for the PSU I need to think on that every one keep's saying I am way over the top but I still need more info. Though with a platinum rating and less than £150 it seems like a good deal to me and I know I am safe.

Lastly I have also built a couple of rig's and I still have 6 months to nail down details and do research

 

[OcSurfer]

Listen to what B's saying to you, he knows what hes talking about.
Also if its comming 6months down the line, why is this in project logs, surely it should be new build advice?

 

[Nurf]

When I said good speakers, I wasn't talking about watts, noise or the amount of speakers, but about sound quality. (now thats something you can spend alot of money on ) If you find that a set of pc speakers that cost 100 bucks sound awesome, forget what I said. It saves you alot of cash to not get into this stuff. Ok, enough about that

Every time a new generation of gpus comes, you can get the same performance that the last generation offered for much less. There is no way that you will save money by buying 3x680s now. If you want get 2 680s go for it, but just know that its no money saving option. Like others have said, get a great cpu and mb, then a gpu solution that will satify you now and upgrade it whenever needed. If one 680 is enough for you now, nothing is stopping you from buying the second later (for a cheaper price).

Btw just because ssds aren't mechanical doesn't mean that they can't fail on you.
All i can say is that please listen to b negative. He knows what he is talking about and you will be better off listening to him. (in both storage and psu advice)

 

[Mix]

When I said good speakers, I wasn't talking about watts, noise or the amount of speakers, but about sound quality. (now thats something you can spend alot of money on ) If you find that a set of pc speakers that cost 100 bucks sound awesome, forget what I said. It saves you alot of cash to not get into this stuff. Ok, enough about that

Every time a new generation of gpus comes, you can get the same performance that the last generation offered for much less. There is no way that you will save money by buying 3x680s now. If you want get 2 680s go for it, but just know that its no money saving option. Like others have said, get a great cpu and mb, then a gpu solution that will satify you now and upgrade it whenever needed. If one 680 is enough for you now, nothing is stopping you from buying the second later (for a cheaper price).

Btw just because ssds aren't mechanical doesn't mean that they can't fail on you.
All i can say is that please listen to b negative. He knows what he is talking about and you will be better off listening to him. (in both storage and psu advice)

OK I understand what you mean but as for B negative the guy is running a 1500w psu and telling me my one is to big lets just say im gona reserve judgment at this point in time.

 

[MacLeod]

Just looked at the SR-2 and just one question why would you compare the SR-2 to the Rampage IV Extreme? I may be missing something but it's the Rampage all the way as far as I can see. As for the PSU I need to think on that every one keep's saying I am way over the top but I still need more info. Though with a platinum rating and less than £150 it seems like a good deal to me and I know I am safe.

Lastly I have also built a couple of rig's and I still have 6 months to nail down details and do research

Pretty sure he was kidding about that. You're kinda like the guy that wants to build an alcohol fueled funny car to drive back and forth to work. In other words your going WAY overboard. His point with the SR is if you're gonna go way overboard, why not go all the way.

You're talking about not having enough money but you insist on spending DOUBLE than you actually need. Everybody here is telling you that but you insist on making this way more complicated than it needs to be.

 

[Rich_]

u should get a better cpu. i suggest an athlon dual core.

 

[VictorB]

mix can you write down your exact plans for your future proof system with every detail. so we can check if its ok. Don`t say just a bunch of ssd. but say how many and what it cost. And where do you use your system for.

if you see the cpu development of the ladt years you see that the main foces now is powercosumption. In my opinion is any quad core 3.5 ghz future proof for 5 years. i think over 5 years you have quadcores of 25 watt instead of 80.

 

[B NEGATIVE]

OK I understand what you mean but as for B negative the guy is running a 1500w psu and telling me my one is to big lets just say im gona reserve judgment at this point in time.

Im running a 1500w PSU because im running 2 1366 powerhungry OC'd CPUS's and 3 GPU's,im basically running 2 rigs off it..plus the extra WC load of about 150w all in.
I fold so the rig runs flat out most of the time,you do not so you will not be running flat out all the time.
I got the PSU with the mind to getting quadfire,quadfire is a waste so i dropped the card...this originally had a 1200w PSU tho.

See the dual CPU's?

My rig cost £5500 in parts,£1000 LESS than your wonder rig budget....

Be realistic with your budget,if you are dead set on spending ridiculous amounts of money then invest in a good 1600p screen that take advantage of 2 680's and a nice chair to sit in,

 

[The Orange One]

Im running a 1500w PSU because im running 2 1366 powerhungry OC'd CPUS's and 3 GPU's,im basically running 2 rigs off it..plus the extra WC load of about 150w all in.
I fold so the rig runs flat out most of the time,you do not so you will not be running flat out all the time.
I got the PSU with the mind to getting quadfire,quadfire is a waste so i dropped the card...this originally had a 1200w PSU tho.

See the dual CPU's?

My rig cost £5500 in parts,£1000 LESS than your wonder rig budget....

Be realistic with your budget,if you are dead set on spending ridiculous amounts of money then invest in a good 1600p screen that take advantage of 2 680's and a nice chair to sit in,

Listen to B-Neg's advice. He knows what he's talking about!

 

[Stevo]

Im running a 1500w PSU because im running 2 1366 powerhungry OC'd CPUS's and 3 GPU's,im basically running 2 rigs off it..plus the extra WC load of about 150w all in.
I fold so the rig runs flat out most of the time,you do not so you will not be running flat out all the time.
I got the PSU with the mind to getting quadfire,quadfire is a waste so i dropped the card...this originally had a 1200w PSU tho.

See the dual CPU's?

My rig cost £5500 in parts,£1000 LESS than your wonder rig budget....

Be realistic with your budget,if you are dead set on spending ridiculous amounts of money then invest in a good 1600p screen that take advantage of 2 680's and a nice chair to sit in,

mind my french but..... :cussing: son that is the shizz

 

[iBeInspire]

Just to throw my tuppence in, definitely go 2x680, since they will almost certainly look better.

 

[VictorB]

why should you quote the message above you..........

 

[Mix]

Im running a 1500w PSU because im running 2 1366 powerhungry OC'd CPUS's and 3 GPU's,im basically running 2 rigs off it..plus the extra WC load of about 150w all in.
I fold so the rig runs flat out most of the time,you do not so you will not be running flat out all the time.
I got the PSU with the mind to getting quadfire,quadfire is a waste so i dropped the card...this originally had a 1200w PSU tho.

See the dual CPU's?

My rig cost £5500 in parts,£1000 LESS than your wonder rig budget....

Be realistic with your budget,if you are dead set on spending ridiculous amounts of money then invest in a good 1600p screen that take advantage of 2 680's and a nice chair to sit in,

I see, were the 1366's honestly that power hungry I had heard they were bad but that bad?

 

[Mix]

mix can you write down your exact plans for your future proof system with every detail. so we can check if its ok. Don`t say just a bunch of ssd. but say how many and what it cost. And where do you use your system for.

if you see the cpu development of the ladt years you see that the main foces now is powercosumption. In my opinion is any quad core 3.5 ghz future proof for 5 years. i think over 5 years you have quadcores of 25 watt instead of 80.

25w quad core yeah I'd run with that ball. As for plans basicly whats on page 1. I forgot to change that bit about the SSD's. when I put it down I thought there would be like a 50%+ gain for RAID0 SSD's, not the case aparently, but I am still thinking all SSD I do have 8 sata ports on the mobo but I really have not had time so look into that. Hell im still trying to catch up on somethings when I put my last rig together WC and RAID were not even thought of at any time as for SSD you new it was the future but im not even sure they were out in the uk

 

[Mix]

Just to throw my tuppence in, definitely go 2x680, since they will almost certainly look better.

Agreed and sound cooler as well but to muddy the water even more there are 4GB 670's which will overclock faster than the 680's to the point where there is no difference if you allow a small margin of error like <5 frame per second. And they are an about 20% to 25% cheaper.