LinusTechTips Testing TTLs Conclusion

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So was just going through my subscriptions list on Youtube and saw this:



He explains what the video is about and how it's based off TTLs conclusion. Now i'm actually shocked there was actually a performance difference between the two motherboards to the extent they were. Now i would have said an FPS or 2 at most... Not 4-6! So i'm just wondering what everybody else's opinions were. I do however agree that it is not worth the premium over lower end boards and price to performance(along with features) still has the ultimate say in the motherboard market.
 
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Just goes to prove to me that Tom knows what he's talking about although it was nice to see Linus agree with him, there are so many reviewers so busy brown nosing manufacturers that they fail to protect their main commodity which is us the loyal viewers and Tom is always the first to look after his followers and fans and if others follow suit it is a good thing.
 
I trust Toms word over any other reviewers. He's the most honest and he openly admits faults in products and doesn't try to hide them at all. Where as many other people say it's just a tiny bad thing but other than that it's perfect... which is a clue they are being paid quite a bit. I understand they need to make money but lieing to consumers isn't a very good way to do it. Not saying Tom doesn't lie(may or may not have) but he's giving me no reason to doubt him and question his every word.

What sort of shocked me the most was that Linus actually watched Toms video all the way through and then actually making a video about it. Well i assume he watched it:p
 
Well i do respect linus but let's be honest....the main point from Tom's review was that Asus introduced a ''gaming'' board,in the same time high end LN2 world record breaking overclocking board.Where other brands they have completely separated it.Fact that linus wisely avoid it to mention for obvious reasons...at least for me:P


P.S;Yes my first actual post is up!grats to me:P
 
I just saw this. I was surprised when he mentioned TTL in the beginning of his video, but it was definitely an interesting watch. It's nice to see another person agreeing.

Even with a 5 fps difference, the Z87n-WiFi is only 1/3rd of the price of the Maximus VI Extreme. We all know that Mini-ITX boards tend to be more expensive cause they are difficult to make (getting all those features on such a small board).

The overclocking is kind of the same. Linus got his chip just as far on the MVIE as on the z87n-WiFi and Tom got his chip just as far as on the G1 Sniper M5 (And GD-65 Gaming).

I can do nothing but agree with Syllom. The MVIE is an overclockers board. For gaming, it adds nothing after the Maximus VI Hero/ GD-65 Gaming price range.

PS; Welcome to the forums, Syllom :)
 
That was interesting and considering only 5 fps on the cheapest board and Mini-Itx, the thought would be that if you went for a GD-65 Gaming at 1/2 the price you would probably lose nothing and the money saved could mean a better Gpu or sli/cf
 
I have posted this on facebook too. My point orininally was you dont need a £300+ board to get the most from your Haswell. All the boards will get the chips to a heat limiting point or max the CPU's out all together.

You pay more for looks and any extra features you MAY want. If you just want a basic overclock and a single gpu and dont have a window then all the boards will nigh on perform the same.
 
its good that you guys did these reviews but i already know this.what did you guys think? and thats 4.7 on cpu.also with sandy ivy ,the vrm is not in the cpu ,but a decent priced z77 board can hit 4.4 - 4.5 or more.no need to pay more if you just want something that 'works' . even JJ@Asus advertised that you can get the same performance on a lower end board.
 
tinytomlogan said:
I have posted this on facebook too. My point orininally was you dont need a £300+ board to get the most from your Haswell. All the boards will get the chips to a heat limiting point or max the CPU's out all together.

You pay more for looks and any extra features you MAY want. If you just want a basic overclock and a single gpu and dont have a window then all the boards will nigh on perform the same.
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The problem is all those extra features are for such a limited amount of people. I do agree though that all boards will max out an overclock before it maxes itself for z87: therefore making anything over the average board a "premium" for those who need the e-peen.
 
I am subscribed to Linus Tech Tip and NCIX YouTube channels and I like to watch them both . But for him working for a company that sells product , it's not for his best interest to give even close to a negative review on anything .
Matx boards have been getting better the past couple of years and it was interesting to see the difference between the two boards in the video, but I think most matx boards don't have comparable power delivery as an atx.
I guess it depends on the board though.
I do agree with Linus that 3 and 4 way sli/crossfire is a waste of money.
 
Very true but it would be nice if he could actually point of some negative things and say what could be done better but still rate it very highly for incomes sake.
 
AverageNinja said:
TTL is never wrong.
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Not. Sure. If. Serious.


Relating to the video, didn't really tell us anything we didn't already know did it? Most I got out of it was that the little Gigabyte board can clock the chip to 4.7GHz.
I don't think TTL went in to his review expecting the M VI E to outperform over boards in games with the CPU clocked to the same speed. I think the review was more critical that it had the ROG logo on it but wasn't intended for people that only play games.

Much like the MSI and Gigabyte boards at a similar price are extremely unlikely to perform and better in games. But they don't carry a 'gaming' logo/brand. Still going to be largely a niche market for them, Asus is just a bit misleading due to the ROG brand.

I'm not really sure what MSI's 'Gaming' brand offers that makes it a better gaming board (except a pointless KillerNIC port), but at least it doesn't carry a price premium. But again you could probably pick up a board for about 75% of the price of a Z87-GD65 Gaming that would perform just as well and have almost all of the features most people would be likely to use (although Tom did give it 10/10 in each category, which would suggest you can't).
 
Atm the GD65 Gaming, Gigabyte M5 and UD4 are my favorite boards available.

Id happily pay for those with my own money.
 
May i ask why those are your favorite boards? What stands out about them that makes them so unique?

Edit: Well besides the go to bios button on the motherboard.. we all know how much you love that lol
 
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Just shows how much intel is holding back CPUs. Nobody ever knew an IHS could do so much to performance. So much in fact the "top" motherboard and almost a "barebones" motherboard can overclock to the exact point the other can.
 
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