kempez's Project "Aqua vitae" 15/01/08 | Parts, ideas and test fitting

[JN]

Meh it'll glow nice in UV which is kinda the point

Righty ho, some project work is going down this weekend. The two rads in the bottom of the case will be on their sides, with holes in the case sides for the fans/grills etc. Does anyone have a nice idea/solution for holding these in place. I've been racking my brain and so far not come up with a lot

Thermaltake's water cooling kits come with little stands made out of alu for the rads so that they could sit sideways. Something like that would work perfect if ya can get hold of any.

Or mebe contact some plexiglass companies and see if they can fabricate you something?

 

[pete]

i used these, have some spare, u could spray them to match u colour scheme

 

[FarFarAway]

Ooh, Pete how much dya want for em?? PM me pls

 

[Rastalovich]

Kinda of a side question - is it safe to assume, flow being constant and max surface radiators used in all cases, that the more water/fluid u have in a loop the cooler the water will be in general ?

I`m thinking heat (kinetic energy) = same from components, flow = same (so rate of heat transference is the same from the components), capacity for holding heat is bigger.

Kinda like using a small heater to heat a small room and a large warehouse.

 

[pete]

nothing, free mate, how many u need?,

i have 4 per rad (2top and 2bottom)

 

[Yeungster]

Kinda of a side question - is it safe to assume, flow being constant and max surface radiators used in all cases, that the more water/fluid u have in a loop the cooler the water will be in general ?

I`m thinking heat (kinetic energy) = same from components, flow = same (so rate of heat transference is the same from the components), capacity for holding heat is bigger.

Kinda like using a small heater to heat a small room and a large warehouse.

Will the flow rate be the same? The pump will be rated for a certain flow rate, but with more tubing the more resistance there is. If we assume this is the case, then heat transfer may be reduced

 

[FarFarAway]

OK, take that dicussion elsewhere peeps

Right then I've been test fitting the RADs today in advance of the brackets and it's very tioght, as I thought it would be.

Pics of the RADs on the floor:

Hmm, not ideal. Thought of several solutions including putting one up in the roof (which I don't want to do). Here's one I came up with.

I think the clearflex should make the turn and the res would drop the water down into the pump OK. The other one would probably be the same.

The route the water would take would go from the res to the pumps split into two as such:

Res>Pump(undecided which one)>RAD>GPU>NB>RAD

Res>Pump(undecided which one)>RAD>CPU>RAD

Also this section here^ will house the crystalfontz CFA 635. Hack a hole out of it to fit, cut some orange plexi to fit round the outside and then mount the LCD screen plus (painted) alu panel on top.

Oh and I should be getting the entire case (inside and out) airbrushed to my own design (plain orange inside though )

 

[Yeungster]

It really does look like a tight fit. Looks like you've found a solution though.

I take it stacking the rads together, with the barbs facing opposite directions, sandwiching a set of fans in the middle, and on the outsides may affect the efficiency of cooling?

What design are you going for on the outside? Is the orange Focus ST orange?

Soo many questions!

 

[FarFarAway]

Questions are no problem mate

I think I've "found" a better solution

Two DDC's to go in the FDD/5.25" bay, RADs stay at the bottom.

Thinking of making a "wind tunnel" by putting a plexi cover on the RADs so they're isolated from the case. One draws air in and through, the other draws air out the other side. Obviously holes will be cut in the case side and some sexy OC3D RAD grills installed

EDIT: foxus ST Orange bascially...well OC3D Orange

Outside will have a custom design, thinking about it now. That will come later though

 

[FarFarAway]

Courtesy of Rob @ WCUK I got my Eddie EK 8800GTX block through

Sexy and Rob is a legend.

And the awesome Ayd from SpecialTech got me an awesome deal on two DDC's with EK tops

Also I got the mounts for the RAD and will try some positions for them at the weekend

 

[Mr. Smith]

Build it already!

How much did the pair of ddc's set you back? Ultras?

 

[Rastalovich]

Will the flow rate be the same? The pump will be rated for a certain flow rate, but with more tubing the more resistance there is. If we assume this is the case, then heat transfer may be reduced

Flow constant, as in the same with 1 rad/res, but now u have more fluid capacity. Whether u`d achieve the constant flow by changing or upgrading ur pump.

Mr Smith, patient as always

 

[FarFarAway]

Build it already!

How much did the pair of ddc's set you back? Ultras?

No normal DDC's 12v. No need for Ultra's with two loops.

It will be built when it is perfect, not before. Things to do before I even think about putting the parts in:

* Fit and fix RAD mounts

* Cut case for/fit Zalman fan controller

* Cut case fotr/fit Crystalfontz CFA635

* Cut case for RAD spaces

* Cut case for top window

* Cut case for tubing

* Cut case for cabling

* Fabricate acrylic for PSU/PSU cable/RAD cover

* Design, make and test a switch box for lighting

* Test fit lighting then adjust case for it

* Final test fit of loop to ensure positions are OK, test fit all hardware

* Send off for painting

Not a short list as you can see and I'm sure I missed some stuff

Flow constant, as in the same with 1 rad/res, but now u have more fluid capacity. Whether u`d achieve the constant flow by changing or upgrading ur pump.

*ahem* Take it to the main forum pls

 

[Mr. Smith]

I think my lack of patience is my downfall, instant gratification ftw lol.

Nice to see your 'to do' list Matt, I guess that has satisfied my curiosity... For now

Look forward to the updates.

 

[rrjwilson]

Just a side note for your fan configuration. A gentleman on the xtremesystems forum tried his WC setup (which contain a 2x TECs) with the new PA rad over his old HE rad. Pull the air through he found less effective than pushing the air through. I believe it was only 2C at full load but every little helps

Personally given the yawning chasm of space there I would have both sides pusing and seal it off like you said and use the front fan mount to create a high static pressure in the box to help the rads.

Nice setup so far keep up the tinkering :worship:

 

[ionicle]

dunno quite how i missed this before...

but looking good

 

[FarFarAway]

Yep I've just got back from hols and am acquiring some A-frame's for the RADs so am actually doing something. It will be slow progress but I'll not rush at it so as to make it nice and clean and well done

 

[rrjwilson]

Patience, its a virtue.

I have it when doing experiments (you try rushing 2D electrophoresis) and I have it with my students but computers Computers are for using and patience goes bye bye. Better man than me.

Although I am a copious planner which means I can speed through as everything is ready

 

[Silentsnake]

How did you design that case? im trying to draw my CM Stacker 832 in sketch up and its driving me nuts lol... did you do each side individually or somthing :S?

any tips and help much appreciated

EDIT: any chance of getting the original sketch up file just so i can get an idea of how you dont this my email adress is

epps_omar@hotmail.com

Thanks

 

[FarFarAway]

Mate it's a sketchup model someone has made. Can't find it now but google sketchup PC models and you should find it