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Vlada011
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Off course for 2-3 days start overclocking...
Maybe you didn't saw but we have several BIOS and with higher latency as on Hynix than we can OC memory higher... People OC to 1900-1950-2000MHz memory same as other cards only for LN2 is better on different way...
Card is incredible, I will never, never bought reference model any more.
I look other cards on NVIDIA GTX780Ti round up and from first moment even if you see first time in life whole of them you know who dominate with 3 extreme, crazy and elegant models...
GTX780Ti Classified - GTX780Ti Classified HydroCopper - GTX780Ti Kingpin Classified, others are Inferior stuff with nasty details.
Guy who live close to me is not enthusiast and don't know about hardware but when we look between several of them immediately on EVGA, How this perform??? I think he first time saw how look graphic card... He only hear for word graphic card and don't know nothing, but immediately eyes recognize nice thing. And show with fingers and ask What you think about this, near 10 models we look and scroll.
Maybe you didn't saw but we have several BIOS and with higher latency as on Hynix than we can OC memory higher... People OC to 1900-1950-2000MHz memory same as other cards only for LN2 is better on different way...
Card is incredible, I will never, never bought reference model any more.
I look other cards on NVIDIA GTX780Ti round up and from first moment even if you see first time in life whole of them you know who dominate with 3 extreme, crazy and elegant models...
GTX780Ti Classified - GTX780Ti Classified HydroCopper - GTX780Ti Kingpin Classified, others are Inferior stuff with nasty details.
Guy who live close to me is not enthusiast and don't know about hardware but when we look between several of them immediately on EVGA, How this perform??? I think he first time saw how look graphic card... He only hear for word graphic card and don't know nothing, but immediately eyes recognize nice thing. And show with fingers and ask What you think about this, near 10 models we look and scroll.
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barnsley
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"inferior" my backside. Some of the cards out there are crap 780Tis, I'll give you that (Asus have messed up). But some 'cards are as good/better.Gigabyte's 780Ti performs as well/better than your beloved EVGA Classified for example. If the Inno3d iChill is as good as it's 780 cousin (no reviews for the 780ti version yet) it'll easily keep up/beat them. Heck the 780 Ichill can keep up with a stock 780ti in some games (linky). The classy is only really popular because, as 780Tis go, its got good price/performance. Also The K|NGP|N is by far nowhere near one of the best 780Tis (excluding LN2 performance).
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Vlada011
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You think on famous GJIANGBYTE GTX780Ti GHz+20MHz Edition - 720-730e....cccc to save 30e on GIGABYTE instead of Kingpin Classified, that's for mental hospital no matter what you work with card.
..."Unfortunately, with clock speeds already being pushed so high, overclocking the GHz Edition was a lesson in futility. While there’s still some gas left in its tank (particularly on the memory side), NVIDIA’s voltage and power limits stepped in again and again, limiting achievable overclocks as the card stepped down to lower levels. This is the price one pays for extreme out-of-box frequencies and it seems like Gigabyte cut this one exceedingly close."
GTX780Ti Classified have another BIOS with same 1085MHz base clock (1020 original) and higher memory clock.
Palit and PNY made models with same cooler, I saw that and it's look nicer than others but I didn't hear nothing about them.
..."Unfortunately, with clock speeds already being pushed so high, overclocking the GHz Edition was a lesson in futility. While there’s still some gas left in its tank (particularly on the memory side), NVIDIA’s voltage and power limits stepped in again and again, limiting achievable overclocks as the card stepped down to lower levels. This is the price one pays for extreme out-of-box frequencies and it seems like Gigabyte cut this one exceedingly close."
GTX780Ti Classified have another BIOS with same 1085MHz base clock (1020 original) and higher memory clock.
Palit and PNY made models with same cooler, I saw that and it's look nicer than others but I didn't hear nothing about them.
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barnsley
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lolwut
I was talking about OC potential. If you buy a 780ti you should OC it. leaving it at stock is a waste.
Vlada011
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Yes about OC potential, about GHz Edition, I write what people think how well OC GIGABYTE GTX780Ti GHz Edition... Here more... only don't talk about Kingpin Memory overclocking... because here picture show GHz Edition...
That's your favorite famous model "better" for gamers than Kingpin Classified.
That's your favorite famous model "better" for gamers than Kingpin Classified.
Enough talk.
It's time to walk the walk. I want benchmarks to show how Kingpin is superior to the classy since I find it hard to believe.
http://www.hardwareasylum.com/reviews/video/evga_gtx780ti_classified-kp/page14.aspx
Check out conclusion.
Pretty much sums up exactly what K|ngp|n said himself. Looking at game benchmarks.. 3-4fps gain over classified is a terrible waste of money.
It's time to walk the walk. I want benchmarks to show how Kingpin is superior to the classy since I find it hard to believe.
http://www.hardwareasylum.com/reviews/video/evga_gtx780ti_classified-kp/page14.aspx
Check out conclusion.
Pretty much sums up exactly what K|ngp|n said himself. Looking at game benchmarks.. 3-4fps gain over classified is a terrible waste of money.
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Kaapstad
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No point they are too slow and under speced.
The major problem with using 4 GPUs is the CPU bottleneck and how the cards behave when they get there. Four of these Kingpins would not be any faster than four ordinary 780ti's or Titan's or possibly even GTX 780s, they all will hit the CPU bottleneck wall and won't go any faster. Worse still the 290Xs individually are not as quick as the top NVidia cards but are more efficient when used in quadfire when there is a CPU bottleneck and can outscore the more powerful NVidia cards in quad sli on the benchmarks.
As to gaming, who in their right mind would buy four 3gb cards and then try and max out games at 4K, the Kingpins would run out of VRAM very quickly. Can they run Crysis 3 maxed @4K, no they can't.
Stop talking about it, can we see some action please.
Lets see your benchmarks.
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barnsley
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Ever heard of the Silicon lottery?
Also, I really hope you're not calling the Kingpin a ''gamers'' 'card. Its not worth the extra money if you're using it for gaming.
Come on Vlad lets put the original argument to bed, GTX780Ti Classified K|NGP|N vs. GTX780 Classified x2
I propose a run of Valley Extreme HD with all factory settings, stock cpu clock and 1600 memory followed by another run with as much Overclocking as you can/want. We will compare them on pure performance score and price performance ratio taking the price as being the cheapest you can find them for in any UK retailer on the same day. You game?
JR
I propose a run of Valley Extreme HD with all factory settings, stock cpu clock and 1600 memory followed by another run with as much Overclocking as you can/want. We will compare them on pure performance score and price performance ratio taking the price as being the cheapest you can find them for in any UK retailer on the same day. You game?
JR
Everyone says the same thing. Put the money where the mouth is and show some benchmarks.
Simple as.
I think he has 2 kingpins
Simple as.
I think he has 2 kingpins
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I think he has 2 kingpins
That wasn't the original argument but yeah, we can still do price performance right
, I don't think he does have two though, he only posted once in the latest purchase thread and only has one in his sig.
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Kaapstad
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There is a guy on my Heaven 4 bench thread with two Kingpins, he has also run two normal classified 780ti's in the same system. The difference between the scores was just over 1%.
I don't think Vlad will be matching him though, unless Vald is using an intel Hexcore running at 5.4ghz with phase change cooling.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=25214820&postcount=1742
With the Normal Classified 780ti's newhit's score was 3952 and with the Kingpins 4002.
Congrats newhit.
Come on Vlad show us what you have got.
I don't think Vlad will be matching him though, unless Vald is using an intel Hexcore running at 5.4ghz with phase change cooling.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=25214820&postcount=1742
With the Normal Classified 780ti's newhit's score was 3952 and with the Kingpins 4002.
Congrats newhit.
Come on Vlad show us what you have got.
Vlada011
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Guys, guys I explain about 5 times, Kingpin Classified is not superior to Classified on Air, depend of chip, but difference between two cards for me If I want backplate on both is 40e... I don't want to argue with you for saving 45e... One cost 765e, other cost 700e + 20e...If accidentaly no backplate and I usually such things order later when confirm stable card than I need to pay plus and shipping for backplate. It's to small price for me to I explain something to you... Or to explain why I wish EVGA.
Same as I don't want to explain why I don't like ugly girls, simply is like that, I wish beautiful... Imagine GIGABYTE as ugly not elegant girl... Purpose of this is to PC look nice not only to perform nice. And I have enough knowledge to know difference between EVGA and GIGABYTE work special when we talk about custom NVIDIA graphic cards...That's funny comparison.
But we talk about same cards KP Classified vs Classified...
Only one have more BIOS versions and it's nicer to me, I had same card like Ti Classified.
I mean same look, with silver...
SLI I tell that before is not my style because I can get something only in 2-3 games... And them I can play with GTX780Ti... When I disable PC over night my month bill is smaller for 10e, that's idle. Because over night maybe download something... I don't want to pay for benchmarks huge power bill and keep VSync in 99% of games when one single Ti is enough. I don't want to lose money on two graphic cards in same time. I barely sell one later. Other I don't know what you need, don't ask me to look and compare some P scores because that mean nothing, 90% of benchmarks don't show good their system and what they present GPU score or P Score...
Same as I don't want to explain why I don't like ugly girls, simply is like that, I wish beautiful... Imagine GIGABYTE as ugly not elegant girl... Purpose of this is to PC look nice not only to perform nice. And I have enough knowledge to know difference between EVGA and GIGABYTE work special when we talk about custom NVIDIA graphic cards...That's funny comparison.
But we talk about same cards KP Classified vs Classified...
Only one have more BIOS versions and it's nicer to me, I had same card like Ti Classified.
I mean same look, with silver...
SLI I tell that before is not my style because I can get something only in 2-3 games... And them I can play with GTX780Ti... When I disable PC over night my month bill is smaller for 10e, that's idle. Because over night maybe download something... I don't want to pay for benchmarks huge power bill and keep VSync in 99% of games when one single Ti is enough. I don't want to lose money on two graphic cards in same time. I barely sell one later. Other I don't know what you need, don't ask me to look and compare some P scores because that mean nothing, 90% of benchmarks don't show good their system and what they present GPU score or P Score...
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Dicehunter
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I really hope your not being serious, That's what benchmarks are there for, To test and measure the performance of your system, End of.
Boonstick
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And the main purpose of that card...
barnsley
born in a.....
So you find the plexiglass effect attractive? Each to their own. If you know about custom Nvidia 'cards (including ones that aren't EVGA) then you should know that other 'cards, such as the iChill will easily keep up with your card, heck maybe even beat it (as you all can tell, I kinda want one :wub: ).
As someone who owns an AMD cpu I know that GPU benchmarks DO show how good a 'card is. Overall benchmarks do not however.
Dicehunter
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You just cant tell some people, Even kingpin himself stated the card is really only meant/built for LN2 benchmarking.
Logic is lost on some people.
+1
It's like buying a Quadro/Firepro card when you don't use any professional applications, Does not make any sense.
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barnsley
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Don't tell that to the people who've ordered their new mac pros to game on ;D.
Vlada011
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Sve je radjeno na originalnom Normal BIOSu 0% overclock GPU, 0% overclock Mem, stock voltage...
Unigine Heaven 4.0 1920x1080 Extreme
Unigine Heaven 4.0 Extreme Preset 1600x900
Firestrike Performance P 11.234, GPU 13.086
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1700279
3DMark 11 Performance P 15.315, GPU 17.889
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7959409
I don't know how this card is under OC but I can feel this is excellent card.
I feel that simply. I can't compare in P scores with guys who have highly OC 6cores CPU even 3960X-4960X... They pull P score high same as fast memory help little.
In Unigine Heaven 4.0 if you look test you see stronger card than GTX780.
I will post later and Valley and Vantage but I do yesteday I think one is about 3280 and other about 52.xxx on stock too.
Unigine Heaven 4.0 1920x1080 Extreme
Unigine Heaven 4.0 Extreme Preset 1600x900
Firestrike Performance P 11.234, GPU 13.086
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1700279
3DMark 11 Performance P 15.315, GPU 17.889
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7959409
I don't know how this card is under OC but I can feel this is excellent card.
I feel that simply. I can't compare in P scores with guys who have highly OC 6cores CPU even 3960X-4960X... They pull P score high same as fast memory help little.
In Unigine Heaven 4.0 if you look test you see stronger card than GTX780.
I will post later and Valley and Vantage but I do yesteday I think one is about 3280 and other about 52.xxx on stock too.
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