InWin H-Frame Mod (ROG Edition)
- Thread starter GregPalos
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Wow, i mean could you not tell us just to repaint us and give us a better technique? Are you so stuck up that all you can do is condescend the project. The reason we put the project up is so that this community can help us fix it/make it better. I'm more dissapointed to be honest that tom couldnt help us, with a tip or two. Still I am glad that one or two of you in the comments above have some maturity.
Thank you mate!
barnsley
born in a.....
I was not aware you had done a case mod. My apologies, I respect you normally and I was just giving an example from what I've seen on the internet (it was posted on kitguru's fb a while back and I can't actually find the link but think cit case with some awful plexiglass,brush painting and after market neon shiz from Halfords and you're nearly there). Also it wasn't meant to come across as scathing as you've interpreted, I guess thats just the way I write after all these years of being a moderator on a gmod server. Maybe you can explain as to what you'd to to it?
To Greg, in my opinion you might want to sand it down and do the colour again. I'd also get braided cables for the psu as you have a window
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alienware
Banned
Well if you think the community can help you fix this and make it better then listen to what the community is saying.
I said the case has been raped. It wasn't personal and I wasn't being nasty (and neither was Tom) it's just how it is. You've taken one of the most exclusive cases for years and painted it badly.
If I wanted to condescend you I would have made personal comments. I didn't, I'm just saying what I see.
I'm sure that when you look at the paint job you can see it's washy and patchy. That's because it just hasn't been done properly. No offence, but if you're going to paint a £250 case then at least you could have done some research on how to do it properly. I've always been an advocate for rattle can painting because as long as you do your research then you CAN get a decent finish out of it, especially with the paints today. In short, though, I would suggest this.
Firstly it's not a race. Good painting takes time, heck, weeks.
Step 1. Sanding. Make sure you create a key for the paint to adhere to. Otherwise you'll be chipping it and peeling it as soon as you breathe on it. Start with something like P600 and make your way to P1000. Then use "pre paint" to clean the surface so that you don't have any contaminates.
Prime the case, spraying 8-10 inches away from it in a sweeping motion, left to right or up and down but DON'T change it. Don't be tempted to go in different directions or be lazy about doing it right.
Sand with P1000 to remove any overspray (grainy).
Prime again. Sand again (P1000 wet sand).
After you've applied three good even coats of primer sand again with P1000.
Clean it and use a "pre paint"
Base coat.
Depending on which sort of paint you choose this will vary. If you're using flat or eggshell type finish then this will be your last coat. You want three even coats MINIMUM in total. Again, sand each coat between coats (use the drying times on your specific paint as a guide) and then apply your final coat.
If you are using something like a metallic paint? you need to be good at it. You can't sand metallic paints between coats as they carry pigments and or flakes/pearls that will be damaged if you sand on them. This is fixed though by applying clear coat and I will get to that now.
What most of your finish will come down to is how much time and money you spend. There is no 'cheap' way to paint something properly.
If you have used something like a metallic paint and would like it to have a good lustre/shine then you can use clear coat AKA laquer. With paints like metallics and pearls this is how you get your desired finish. To do this you need to follow the logic of -
Hit the surface with clear coat or laquer. Keep your panels FLAT as this will help prevent runs. Put on enough clear just so that it almost runs. Let it harden. Sand with P1000. Repeat three times. What you are doing here is basically encapsulating your metallic/pearl finish with clear coat that will level the surface out. When you are happy with your very last coat then hit it with P1000, P2000 and then a buffer.
As I mentioned there is no cheap way to paint anything. Doing it right requires a buttload of money in paint and prep materials. What I would do with that case is strip it back and get it powdercoated.
What you've written is beyond helpful! And although i might have made you go out your way you have no idea how much I appreciate it
I'll talk to morgan about fixing it! Thank you
Spiderz
New member
As a person who knows next to nothing about painting metal let alone having an eagle eye to spot imperfections unless it is staring me in the face I think that the mod itself has made the case look a lot nicer. The chosen red colour is something I really like and congrats on adding the window in too. The changes have been a change for the better.
Mysterae
New member
Yeah thats what we thought and especially with the cooler we've chosen and the look of the components we hope that it turns out good + I'm gunna sit down with thom and polish the paint off properly. And yeah I prefer the h-frame with a glass panel and it in Dark Red.
cheers!
Sometimes I think this forum should be renamed to OCD3
me thinks you are right, very appropriate XD
alienware
Banned
Again I will always rate a mod/build on the quality of the results more than the fact it's something I like the look of.
That probably comes from the fact that I've done a few mods (and usually very heavy mods too) but yeah, choices of colours ETC will most always come down to the person doing the work so I've no problems saying "Wow, good work" even if I think the thing looks horrific :lol:
My first real mod was converting a G3 case into a PC case. I liked the challenge and it was one, and my colour choice will not appeal to many but it was well done. The paint job was absolutely flawless and I accept that the colours used were pretty horrific but that was the theme of the case, a radioactive warning sign..
The last full on mod I did took nearly a month and that was mostly just painting. From the sound of it it's everything you hate, however, you have to give credit where it's due and Nfenix had an absolutely flawless paint job. Being that it was sponsored by EVGA and Nvidia meant I was seriously limited it colours. It was either green and black or pretty much nothing. You can see it here.. Again, look at the quality of the work rather than the overall look. This was a £200 ish mod, let alone a case that cost more than the entire project.
http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=36573
Also take note that criticism was given and in most cases if some one was right I would change it but only because I knew deep down that the criticism was right. Tom didn't like the window being mounted on the outside and said so on the Specialtech forums.
Any way apologies for waffling on but yes, there's a hand sprayed case using rattle cans with a flawless finish.
barnsley
born in a.....
Ah right, I quite like it (the N-Fenix) compared to some sponsored builds I've seen to be honest . I was being horrible about the cit case because while I don't mind logos occasionally it had basically ended up semi-stickerbombed in Nvidia stickers and I hate a non proper stickerbombage.
Also, I've seen worse paint jobs win stupid amounts of praise on bicycle forums. Good job with the paint, Alien.
Also, I've seen worse paint jobs win stupid amounts of praise on bicycle forums. Good job with the paint, Alien.
Azurite
New member
Big applaus to SparkleDJackson. I couldnt agree more.
Some of the biggest complainants havent even done a single mod themselves and have no clue what it takes. Doing thing right takes practice, practice and practice. If you wanna be really good then you must see your own faults and bite the sour apple.
We have all been newbeginners at one time so no need to talk down to others or being rude!!
This reminds me why i had a break from this forum.
Some of the biggest complainants havent even done a single mod themselves and have no clue what it takes. Doing thing right takes practice, practice and practice. If you wanna be really good then you must see your own faults and bite the sour apple.
We have all been newbeginners at one time so no need to talk down to others or being rude!!
This reminds me why i had a break from this forum.
I can only sit here, agree and thank you for your comment.
alienware
Banned
Tom and I weren't being rude. We were just saying what we saw.
Harsh? yeah maybe, but tell me, if you did a job badly and every one said "wow good work" would you strive for anything else?
Both Tom and I have years of experience AND both know our painting. I've gone out of my way to help out here.. This isn't just an every day build using boring old parts, this rig is all top end equipment.
I totally agree with you alien. Dont tell me somethings good especially if a lot of money is going into it. But can you maybe see that the bluntness was kinda offputting?
alienware
Banned
I guess it depends what sort of a person you are.
Me? I spent years designing and coding emulated machines for thousands of people and whilst their nasty comments upset me when I look at the work I produced at the start and the work I produced near the end? chalk and cheese.
There are companies out there that can paint the case perfectly. It's well worth spending the money on given the magnitude of the parts being used here. This isn't a £50 budget PC which is probably why Tom and I decided to comment on it.
Fairly said. I can't argue with that at all.
Thanks for posting on this thread mate!
Will do our best to make this a build you start to like!
