i need help with water cooling im new to it all
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TheLastRebel
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well i will probly swap out 6 of them for quite edition and keep 3 for a radiator
that away they look the same
that away they look the same
NeverBackDown
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Or just go with all quiet editions and run them on 7 volts and have a silent yet still powerful rig.
TheLastRebel
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or i could say why the heck do i need to sacrafice performance for looks and get noctua fans
NeverBackDown
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You won't sacrifice performance. The idea behind watercooling is to have a silent,powerful, sexy beast. Running the fans like crazy defeats the purpose and at that rate is rather pointless.
TheLastRebel
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Size 140x140x25 mm
Connector 3-pin
Bearing SSO2
Blade Geometry A-Series with Flow Acceleration Channels
Frame Technology AAO (Advanced Acoustic Optimization)
Rotational Speed (+/- 10%) 1200 RPM
Rotational Speed with L.N.A. (+/- 10%) 1050 RPM
Rotational Speed with U.L.N.A. (+/- 10%) 900 RPM
Airflow 115,5 m³/h
Airflow with L.N.A. 101,9 m³/h
Airflow with U.L.N.A. 88,7 m³/h
Acoustical Noise 19,2 dB(A)
Acoustical Noise with L.N.A. 16,4 dB(A)
Acoustical Noise with U.L.N.A. 13,8 dB(A)
Static Pressure 1,51 mm H2O
Static Pressure with L.N.A. 1,18 mm H2O
Static Pressure with U.L.N.A. 0,89 mm H2O
Max. Input Power 0,96 W
Max. Input Current 0,08 A
Voltage 12 V
MTBF > 150.000 h
they have one that even better stats and only a tad louder
Connector 3-pin
Bearing SSO2
Blade Geometry A-Series with Flow Acceleration Channels
Frame Technology AAO (Advanced Acoustic Optimization)
Rotational Speed (+/- 10%) 1200 RPM
Rotational Speed with L.N.A. (+/- 10%) 1050 RPM
Rotational Speed with U.L.N.A. (+/- 10%) 900 RPM
Airflow 115,5 m³/h
Airflow with L.N.A. 101,9 m³/h
Airflow with U.L.N.A. 88,7 m³/h
Acoustical Noise 19,2 dB(A)
Acoustical Noise with L.N.A. 16,4 dB(A)
Acoustical Noise with U.L.N.A. 13,8 dB(A)
Static Pressure 1,51 mm H2O
Static Pressure with L.N.A. 1,18 mm H2O
Static Pressure with U.L.N.A. 0,89 mm H2O
Max. Input Power 0,96 W
Max. Input Current 0,08 A
Voltage 12 V
MTBF > 150.000 h
they have one that even better stats and only a tad louder
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
They won't fit on your radiators.
Why not just stick to your previous plan? We are just going to start the whole thread over again and end up with the same conclusion... again
Why not just stick to your previous plan? We are just going to start the whole thread over again and end up with the same conclusion... again
TheLastRebel
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they got 120s as well they are supposidly the best fans u can buy reason im posting is there very quite
Size: 120x120x25 mm
Connector: 3-pin
Bearing: SSO2
Blade Geometry: S-Series with Anti-Stall Knobs
Frame Technology: AAO (Advanced Acoustic Optimization)
Rotational Speed (+/- 10%): 1200 RPM
Rotational Speed with L.N.A. (+/- 10%): 900 RPM
Rotational Speed with U.L.N.A. (+/- 10%): 700 RPM
Airflow: 107,5 m³/h
Airflow with L.N.A.: 83,2 m³/h
Airflow with U.L.N.A.: 65,8 m³/h
Acoustical Noise: 17,8 dB(A)
Acoustical Noise with L.N.A.: 10,7 dB(A)
Acoustical Noise with U.L.N.A.: 7,4 dB(A)
Static Pressure: 1,19 mm H2O
Static Pressure with L.N.A.: 0,73 mm H2O
Static Pressure with U.L.N.A.: 0,51 mm H2O
Max. Input Power: 1,44 W
Max. Input Current: 0,12 A
Voltage: 12 V
MTBF: > 150.000 h
keep in mind there air flow is at cubic meters not feet which is around 65cfm on the 120s so technicaly if i wanted silence i could get these and have good airflow with good static pressure and amazing silence
Size: 120x120x25 mm
Connector: 3-pin
Bearing: SSO2
Blade Geometry: S-Series with Anti-Stall Knobs
Frame Technology: AAO (Advanced Acoustic Optimization)
Rotational Speed (+/- 10%): 1200 RPM
Rotational Speed with L.N.A. (+/- 10%): 900 RPM
Rotational Speed with U.L.N.A. (+/- 10%): 700 RPM
Airflow: 107,5 m³/h
Airflow with L.N.A.: 83,2 m³/h
Airflow with U.L.N.A.: 65,8 m³/h
Acoustical Noise: 17,8 dB(A)
Acoustical Noise with L.N.A.: 10,7 dB(A)
Acoustical Noise with U.L.N.A.: 7,4 dB(A)
Static Pressure: 1,19 mm H2O
Static Pressure with L.N.A.: 0,73 mm H2O
Static Pressure with U.L.N.A.: 0,51 mm H2O
Max. Input Power: 1,44 W
Max. Input Current: 0,12 A
Voltage: 12 V
MTBF: > 150.000 h
keep in mind there air flow is at cubic meters not feet which is around 65cfm on the 120s so technicaly if i wanted silence i could get these and have good airflow with good static pressure and amazing silence
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NeverBackDown
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Well they have a good reputation which in turn gives them that epeen tag. The corsair fans are great,quiet at 7v, and look good. What more do you need? If you really want the noctuas then go for it. Colors will mismatch but if you feel they will complete the rig, then get them.
TheLastRebel
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im just gona shut up about it watch a tiny tom review on them and pick u know what ill stick with the corsairs
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NeverBackDown
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From personal experience the corsair fans on 7v are quiet. Not had a noise issue with them before.
TheLastRebel
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i think it would be good idea to get 140 case fans and 120 for the rad or would it be bad mix maxing like that
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
even at 7v they will run slightly slower than the quiet editions at 12v. With the quiet edition at 7v it runs very quiet. You have the mentality that the quiet editions at 7v aren't good at cooling. They are. They will still have a high static pressure and able to cool just as great. You may lose about 2-4C at max so it is nothing to worry about but something to cheer about due to the quietness.
TheLastRebel
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should i just get all sp fans since my intakes do have filters that restirct airflow
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Surfie
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It's not really about the airflow restriction. Especially in regards to filters; they won't restrict your fans much, if at all.
The key of cooling (well) is to ensure that you end up with as little noise as possible, for a good cooling solution.
Water cooling (if done properly) has the goals of (in priority order, highest to lowest): silence, performance, good looks. It is my view, that if you are doing water cooling, ALL THREE of these should be your priority. Silence CAN be sacrificed if you have a smaller case, or some other restriction, but to me, it defeats the point of water cooling in the first place. How do you achieve silence in a water cooled rig? By running fans which are specified for static pressure, and rated for silence at low speeds, and radiators to match (e.g. alphacool rads). This is something which the Corsair SP120 Quiet Edition are designed for. This way you minimise noise caused by airflow through the rad, while ensuring that the large number of fans in the rig are near silent (because they are spinning slower).
Air cooling: The priority changes for air cooling, since most non-stock air coolers are massive, and let's be honest, hideous to look at. The priority is: performance, price, specification to case (i.e. will it fit?). Note that looks and silence are not listed. This is not to say that you can't get a silent air cooled rig - you can, but you have to build specifically for that, and plan your airflow a lot more. Silence in an air cooled rig is a challenge, usually because the fans which go on the CPU heat sink, and the video card heat sink need to ramp up a bit higher to remove the heat from the case (along with the case fans), and this (generally) will cause more noise.
To directly answer your question; no, you should get some AF series (Quiet Edition fans) for your case, and use SP's only where necessary: on radiators if water cooling, or on your heat sink, if not. Placing SP's all through your case, will reduce your airflow potential at volt X (be it 5, 7 or 12), which in turn could reduce cooling potential through your entire rig.
Another thing to consider is: do you want your case to have positive case pressure or negative? Negative, will (generally) give you better temps, but it acts like a vacuum, sucking in dust all through the case. Positive will reduce dust intake significantly, but can (sometimes) cause slightly higher noise, as the internals of the case try and equalise pressure with the environment. The answer to this will determine whether you have more intakes than exhausts ultimately.
Edit: I've really got to stop dishing out novels in my thread replies. I'm so sorry everyone.
The key of cooling (well) is to ensure that you end up with as little noise as possible, for a good cooling solution.
Water cooling (if done properly) has the goals of (in priority order, highest to lowest): silence, performance, good looks. It is my view, that if you are doing water cooling, ALL THREE of these should be your priority. Silence CAN be sacrificed if you have a smaller case, or some other restriction, but to me, it defeats the point of water cooling in the first place. How do you achieve silence in a water cooled rig? By running fans which are specified for static pressure, and rated for silence at low speeds, and radiators to match (e.g. alphacool rads). This is something which the Corsair SP120 Quiet Edition are designed for. This way you minimise noise caused by airflow through the rad, while ensuring that the large number of fans in the rig are near silent (because they are spinning slower).
Air cooling: The priority changes for air cooling, since most non-stock air coolers are massive, and let's be honest, hideous to look at. The priority is: performance, price, specification to case (i.e. will it fit?). Note that looks and silence are not listed. This is not to say that you can't get a silent air cooled rig - you can, but you have to build specifically for that, and plan your airflow a lot more. Silence in an air cooled rig is a challenge, usually because the fans which go on the CPU heat sink, and the video card heat sink need to ramp up a bit higher to remove the heat from the case (along with the case fans), and this (generally) will cause more noise.
To directly answer your question; no, you should get some AF series (Quiet Edition fans) for your case, and use SP's only where necessary: on radiators if water cooling, or on your heat sink, if not. Placing SP's all through your case, will reduce your airflow potential at volt X (be it 5, 7 or 12), which in turn could reduce cooling potential through your entire rig.
Another thing to consider is: do you want your case to have positive case pressure or negative? Negative, will (generally) give you better temps, but it acts like a vacuum, sucking in dust all through the case. Positive will reduce dust intake significantly, but can (sometimes) cause slightly higher noise, as the internals of the case try and equalise pressure with the environment. The answer to this will determine whether you have more intakes than exhausts ultimately.
Edit: I've really got to stop dishing out novels in my thread replies. I'm so sorry everyone.
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Seb.F
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SP120 performance editions run at lower voltage are better than quiets run at 12v.
The same argument applies for SP120s run at 5v, vs. quiets running at 7v.
There is almost no real reason to get the quiet editions unless you want only to run 12v throughout, without dropping voltage or using fan controllers.
The same argument applies for SP120s run at 5v, vs. quiets running at 7v.
There is almost no real reason to get the quiet editions unless you want only to run 12v throughout, without dropping voltage or using fan controllers.
TheLastRebel
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well i want it to be quite with out hindering to much performance wise in the cfm and static pressure
Seb.F
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Run the performance at 7v or 5v then. 5v is inaudible, 7v is still fairly quiet. But at least they you have access to the higher RPM if you need. The quiet editions are the same fans as the performance ones just dropped in RPM, which you can quite easily regulate yourself.
Bear in mind the performance ones come with a 7v dropper anyway, so they are all quite alright to run like that.
Bear in mind the performance ones come with a 7v dropper anyway, so they are all quite alright to run like that.
TheLastRebel
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well seb doing it ur way they would be about the same performance level so why fork out the extra money for the performance ones
Seb.F
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They're not extra money? At least not here in the UK... 
In fact, if you take a look at overclockers, the quiet editions are MORE expensive.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-008-CS
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-010-CS
They try and normalise the pricing to stop people saying "I'll get the cheaper one". So you will normally find they are exactly the same price.
In fact, if you take a look at overclockers, the quiet editions are MORE expensive.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-008-CS
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-010-CS
They try and normalise the pricing to stop people saying "I'll get the cheaper one". So you will normally find they are exactly the same price.
