i need help with water cooling im new to it all

well im gona have a 2 tb hdd for storage and the 360 gig ssd is only like 60 bucks more than a 200 gig should i just grab windows 8.1 since there about to stop selling windows 7

You will have to ask people with win 8 if they prefer it over win 7 i think.
So far from what i've hear win 8 is junk and alot of games don't work (at all) with it so yeah.
Also keep in mind the "stopping with twin selling" is not determined yet if this will happen or not.
Plus, if you buy win 7 now, it doesnt mean they will drop support for it the same day as they stop selling it.
Altho the time between those two events gets smaller with every windows version.
Personally will probably never touch win 8 in general and skip straight to win 9 since i feel win 8 is just a testversion just like win vista was.
 
I would strongly recommend Windows 7 over Windows 8 anyday. They did officially discontinue it but they brought it back again so I doubt they'll stop supporting 7 anytime soon
 
You can have steam games on different drives. Just have to go into steam settings and have it set it up for you in order for it to recognize the file path.

Win 7 vs 8.1 is a hard choice. Win7 is a very strong OS for gaming. Win 8 in some games improves performance, others not at all, even further in others they won't work. OS is faster in general and supports new technology. Thats a quick rundown of the two. Personally i would go to some store and use a win 8.1 pc and play around with it to see how i like it. Alternatively you could go online and look for tutorials of how to use it.
 
im tempted to spend a lil money im saving for a better monitor like one thats a 4k monitor to realy make the 290x shine ouch a 4k monitor is way to expensive
 
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What games will you play mostly?

Edit: 4k ain't worth it yet. Would need at a minimum of 290x to be playable but even then not at full settings.
 
Will you being playing shooter games a lot? If so then a 120hz monitor will serve you well. If you play more RPG/Strategy games like me then a 1440p monitor will serve you far better, occasional shooter type games shouldn't be a problem at this res. Only downside of 1440p is that they are really expensive(but worth it).
 
i mainly play league of legends/dota2/world of tanks/world of warplanes/need for speed world/planetside 2/guild wars 2 and more i cant think of i play civilization some
 
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Since you play all over the place 1440p would probably do you a better job. None of those are that intensive(unless you play rome 2.. that game is quite hard to run) and your 290x would stretch its legs and make it worth an investment.
 
The korean monitors are all very cheap. Though the well known brand names cost much more but will have better quality overall.

Here is a cheap decent monitor from a korean company.
Crossover brand
and then the same one but perfect pixel version

Note non pixel perfect monitors,while cheaper, are considered to be working okay even with/up to 5 dead pixels. Pixel perfect are up to 2px and cost more.
 
im comfortable spending 200 on a monitor maybe 300 but thats not my top priotrity ill end up buying it after a few months also im comfortable spending around 400 total on my water cooling set up if i can run a custom set up for around that price ill do that wait i forgot im getting that one kit i just need to know what fittings i should get to match the kit to go on the gpu water block and what water block i should get http://www.performance-pcs.com/cata...oduct_info&cPath=59_202_972&products_id=33549 is the kit im getting
 
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Ya wait on the monitor till after everything is done.

The kit is $300 and comes with everything except the coolant,290x waterblock, and other fittings. 290x waterblock can be any of these listed.
Ek 290x waterblocks: http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g/c...cks-EK_Blocks_-_VGA_ATI-EK_R9-290X-Page1.html

or these from another site.. the first 4 are for 290x.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=59_971_240_579
Koolance:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/cata...t_info&cPath=59_971_240_581&products_id=39602

fittings depends. Compression or barbs? Compression look better but more expensive, barbs look blah, work the same and cheaper.

Coolant is up to you, XSPC have some of their own coolant if you want to keep it XSPC themed.
 
im comfortable spending 200 on a monitor maybe 300 but thats not my top priotrity ill end up buying it after a few months also im comfortable spending around 400 total on my water cooling set up if i can run a custom set up for around that price ill do that wait i forgot im getting that one kit i just need to know what fittings i should get to match the kit to go on the gpu water block and what water block i should get http://www.performance-pcs.com/cata...oduct_info&cPath=59_202_972&products_id=33549 is the kit im getting

If possible I'd suggest not getting a bay res as they can sometimes be quite noisy as the pump can transfer vibrations into the case. It doesn't always happen, but if it does it's often difficult to dampen the vibrations because there's little space between the res and the bay.

Also, that kit has is just one triple radiator, so an overclocked CPU and overclocked GPU on that may not do too well, especially if you intend on having the fans quiet. I'd prefer another radiator as well like a 240mm so I could keep the fans nice and slow.
 
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If possible I'd suggest not getting a bay res as they can sometimes be quite noisy as the pump can transfer vibrations into the case. It doesn't always happen, but if it does it's often difficult to dampen the vibrations because there's little space between the res and the bay.

Also, that kit has is just one triple radiator, so an overclocked CPU and overclocked GPU on that may not do too well, especially if you intend on having the fans quiet. I'd prefer another radiator as well like a 240mm so I could keep the fans nice and slow.

He won't be overclocking their nuts off. The small loop means the pump will only need to run slow. For now the 360 will do him fine. When he can though i suggest adding another rad, as of now, not a huge priority.
 
He won't be overclocking their nuts off. The small loop means the pump will only need to run slow. For now the 360 will do him fine. When he can though i suggest adding another rad, as of now, not a huge priority.

Fair enough, I had the impression he was watercooling the 290x so he could overclock the balls off it xD
 
im not realy gona go crazy over clocking maybe 4.0 on the cpu and like 1150ghz on the gpu to match the freq on the gtx 780 ti so pretty much just a lil over clockin im more of a intermediate over clocker ill probly just let the mother board software over clock it all for me since im new to over clockin and is the passive heatsink on the motherboard gona be enough also how would i go about the drain loop couldt i just unplug say the graphics cards power and leave the block hooked up just unhook one of the hoses so the liquid going back into the pump goes into a bowl and as for the res noise transfer i can just make a rubber gasket to take the noise transfer down
 
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Fair enough, I had the impression he was watercooling the 290x so he could overclock the balls off it xD

The 290x runs actually very cool under water. It only runs hot because the cooler sucks. Now under water it behaves like any gpu would. I think i saw an OC on it with about 1300mhz on the core and it was still less than 50C. Can't remember the volts though, still an impressive temp, 300mhz OC on the core.

im not realy gona go crazy over clocking maybe 4.0 on the cpu and like 1150ghz on the gpu to match the freq on the gtx 780 ti so pretty much just a lil over clockin im more of a intermediate over clocker ill probly just let the mother board software over clock it all for me since im new to over clockin

Your loop will handle the temps very well. Do overclocking manually. You will be far more satisfied and more able to fix any problems in the future if they arise.
 
The 290x runs actually very cool under water. It only runs hot because the cooler sucks. Now under water it behaves like any gpu would. I think i saw an OC on it with about 1300mhz on the core and it was still less than 50C.



Your loop will handle the temps very well. Do overclocking manually. You will be far more satisfied and more able to fix any problems in the future if they arise.

Oh right, I did just think it was a generally hot card, the more you know :)

+1 on manual overclocking. The motherboard will just overvolt everything so it's hotter than it needs to be, and that way you don't learn anything. Read/watch a few overclocking guides, and it's much more rewarding getting a decent overclock on your components, and it's also just better than the motherboard can do it.
 
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