Dicehunter
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That is severely messed up !
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That is severely messed up !
Dawelio
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This just goes to show that unfortunately one is basically always the underdog against the state in one way or the other. And just how messed up the systems, that should be there for the citizens, actually does the opposite instead.
You used to go to the hospital to get treated back in the days, today people hesitate due to stuff like this. Today you basically go to the hospital to get treated due to not feeling well and you also have to legally fight in that condition as well.
Absolutely disgusting and makes one just wanna throw up...
You used to go to the hospital to get treated back in the days, today people hesitate due to stuff like this. Today you basically go to the hospital to get treated due to not feeling well and you also have to legally fight in that condition as well.
Absolutely disgusting and makes one just wanna throw up...
KingNosser
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They take out a loan at birth on their copy of the birth certificate and then run you on the stockmarket hence why credit scores are a thing as they sure do make a lot of money off people in more ways than you'd imagine, they do not care about protecting the investment simple cash in and cut you off.
Your essentially priceless, yet you are not able to enjoy the benefits of your worth.
even i had issues just before Christmas as mum fell ill and one day was in a dangerous way with blood sugar and core body temp, I called 999 got put through too 111 waited 25 mins for someone to pick up then quized about her situation and from when the call was made to the amulance getting here was over 1 hour, the medics way better got her to hospital and checked treated and home in a far far better state.
So if your in dire need of help get on the phone an hour before it happens then you might live.
I think you and I are very lucky and fortunate right now because Sweden/Norway medical system is in a good place. We get much better benefits here, and I believe health care staff are paid well enough (but not amazing) that there is never a need for hospitals to be hunting for staff, but rather they have to turn away many applicants instead.
Dawelio
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Meanwhile overall I know what you mean, here in Sweden it's turning the tide unfortunately and I've personally experienced the worst part of it as well.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Well good news, Not FML but a continuation of my earlier rant, Rang up the hospital and my dad is recovering very well, He actually got the recent seasonal flu which has been knocking people off their backsides, He was meant to have his vaccine for it like all over 70's do every year but he missed the appointment, Thankfully making an excellent recovery though.
Blood pressure 120/70, Blood oxygen 99% and heart rate of 55 as he's never smoked, Walked everywhere and generally always kept fit, Won't be coming home for another 2+ days most likely as they want to make sure he's 110% but yeah all good news, I'm quite chuffed
Blood pressure 120/70, Blood oxygen 99% and heart rate of 55 as he's never smoked, Walked everywhere and generally always kept fit, Won't be coming home for another 2+ days most likely as they want to make sure he's 110% but yeah all good news, I'm quite chuffed
Well good news, Not FML but a continuation of my earlier rant, Rang up the hospital and my dad is recovering very well, He actually got the recent seasonal flu which has been knocking people off their backsides, He was meant to have his vaccine for it like all over 70's do every year but he missed the appointment, Thankfully making an excellent recovery though.
Blood pressure 120/70, Blood oxygen 99% and heart rate of 55 as he's never smoked, Walked everywhere and generally always kept fit, Won't be coming home for another 2+ days most likely as they want to make sure he's 110% but yeah all good news, I'm quite chuffed
Good news for you
Personally I want them to rip the NHS apart and rebuild it then run it as a business because that is how it should be run, if you want it to be efficient or at least more efficient than it currently is.
Good news for you
Personally I want them to rip the NHS apart and rebuild it then run it as a business because that is how it should be run, if you want it to be efficient or at least more efficient than it currently is.
If you run it as a business then you run it to make a profit wherever possible. I dont think anyone would like their hospital bills. National Insurance won't cover anything.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Good news for you
Personally I want them to rip the NHS apart and rebuild it then run it as a business because that is how it should be run, if you want it to be efficient or at least more efficient than it currently is.
Then you leave the vulnerable and poor out to dry, Not good.
The reason why it's inefficient is because the tories have been strip mining it slowly a bit at a time for 14 years now, As an example my local hospital was meant to get money to redo 1 of the wards, The money came in the front door and left out the backdoor into some quangos pockets never to be seen again and it's the same up and down the UK.
Another example, My local hospital has 14 x directors who no one has ever seen before but each one takes home a minimum of £80,000 per year before bonuses.
The tories did the same with British Rail, Strip mined it and then said "Look, Look, It doesn't work" and now the UK has 1 of the worst train services in the western world, Healthcare in the UK will go the same way if the tories have their way so them and their chums can get nice and rich.
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KingNosser
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The conservatives are out they got no chance this time around, if they do somehow get in then you best realise just how messed up that is.
The whole point of the NHS is to save lives not turn a profit, but yep waste at an extreme level and miss managed it's that simple.
The whole point of the NHS is to save lives not turn a profit, but yep waste at an extreme level and miss managed it's that simple.
Sorry I think I put my point across in the wrong way 
When I say run it as a "Business" I don't mean a "For Profit" type "Business" but in the way a Business is ran from "CEO & Down", with efficiency.
There are far to many Managers, Supervisors, Seniors, SME's (not always experts) etc and also to many companies providing materials who are just interested in getting as much profit as possible, just look at the difference in suppliers for "Fall Prevention Socks", the sheer greed by some companies is disgusting and those are NHS Suppliers, meanwhile companies that are not NHS suppliers are stupidly cheap.
We are being ripped off by funding an NHS which is being mismanaged and I don't care if you think it's all the Tories fault or if you think it's all Labours fault, both parties screwed the NHS in one way or another, and until 1 of them grows a spine to deal with it properly it will continue to be something we get ripped off to fund.
When I say run it as a "Business" I don't mean a "For Profit" type "Business" but in the way a Business is ran from "CEO & Down", with efficiency.
There are far to many Managers, Supervisors, Seniors, SME's (not always experts) etc and also to many companies providing materials who are just interested in getting as much profit as possible, just look at the difference in suppliers for "Fall Prevention Socks", the sheer greed by some companies is disgusting and those are NHS Suppliers, meanwhile companies that are not NHS suppliers are stupidly cheap.
We are being ripped off by funding an NHS which is being mismanaged and I don't care if you think it's all the Tories fault or if you think it's all Labours fault, both parties screwed the NHS in one way or another, and until 1 of them grows a spine to deal with it properly it will continue to be something we get ripped off to fund.
Greenback
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The NHS isn't sustainable as it is as it wasn't designed for the amount of ageing population we have and needs a complete strip down and rework clear out the waste at the top would be a start 9 directors for my local hospital is overkill, it was worked upon there would always be more worker than old people and with fewer births over the decades it's only getting worse the Uk fertility rate is below replacement and most european countries are the same, it's why retirement age was increased
Every hospital has a board of directors. ITs one thing thats accurate in all these Tv series/movies.
You would think a board would be enough for districts but alot of stuff goes on behind the scenes we take for granted or are unaware of. My close friend father is one of these people in Norway. He words it in a way where he would like to give it up as they have to decide on almost every little detail down to purchases sanitary gloves. Its not easy to just buy it from one supplier. Its the suppliers who are the greedy f**ks holding hospitals to contracts and charging them £120 for a pack of 12 paracetamol that we can buy over the counter for £5. When you wonder why Hospitals try to penny pinch in areas, this is why. Big Pharma is the problem with the world. Not the hospitals.
I do 100% agree with you though. NHS in 2024 cannot deal with the demand placed upon them. The issue I see in the world is because of medical evolution we are living longer than we should.
I will probably get alot of hate for this, but the globe needs a purge before we strip it of everything. We breed like parasites these days and every country is under strain from the constant population growth. There are too many humans alive.
Im still curious what happened to the promised money to the NHS from Brexit. Is Farage still in politics?
Greenback
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they were on about at 1 time licensing drugs and having them made by the NHS to cut out the big pharma, the Uk pays more than france so we get stuff before them if it's in short supply.
to be fair if it was left to white people (not meant as racist) the population would be decreasing if the UK carries on as is, it will have 40% less population in 2-3 generations white people could become a minority in 100 years over europe.
Farage isn't in government and Brexit was screwed over by a remainer government and house of lords putting in a not leaving with no deal making it a hand tied behind their back during negotiations
I think the Bold will happen when the oil starts getting really short
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think it happened once already. AKA Covid. I still find it hard to believe that leaked out of a lab in error.
KingNosser
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Well i'll chip in here on a tiktok i saw today, yep there are some that are not meaningless trash.
Basically a doctor with enough knowledge on things to do with the NHS, clearly stated and very factual. That yes it is the conservatives that have ran it into the ground over the last 10 years as ten years ago and it's fact was rated as the number 1 health care service in the world as hard as that may be for us to believe, but there that is what comes from underfunding and giving contracts to buddy's and general corruption, the greedy fat cats are milking it dry and want it to go private so you can all pay more and of course they make more money.
Even i'm aware on a basic level when it comes to the difference on A&E or calling for help of any kind or just generally getting an appointment for anything these days, let alone the vast vast amount less of bed/wards they have to do the job.
The NHS was always well thought after and loved by us folk for a reason sure it's not perfect but it done most of what you expected from a system or do you wish to pay extortionate fees like in the US like $800 for asthma pump.
They have been underfunding it for over a decade and milking it of every penny they can, it's really that simple.
I get your reasoning now with the biz side, but there that means getting rid of the corruption in the fact of the vast waste and mis management along side a government that clearly isnt working for the people, but there own back pockets cause while most familys are struggling in day to day things, they give themselves £8000 pay rise each year and put there friends into roles to do as they are told, it's straight up greed.
Basically a doctor with enough knowledge on things to do with the NHS, clearly stated and very factual. That yes it is the conservatives that have ran it into the ground over the last 10 years as ten years ago and it's fact was rated as the number 1 health care service in the world as hard as that may be for us to believe, but there that is what comes from underfunding and giving contracts to buddy's and general corruption, the greedy fat cats are milking it dry and want it to go private so you can all pay more and of course they make more money.
Even i'm aware on a basic level when it comes to the difference on A&E or calling for help of any kind or just generally getting an appointment for anything these days, let alone the vast vast amount less of bed/wards they have to do the job.
The NHS was always well thought after and loved by us folk for a reason sure it's not perfect but it done most of what you expected from a system or do you wish to pay extortionate fees like in the US like $800 for asthma pump.
They have been underfunding it for over a decade and milking it of every penny they can, it's really that simple.
I get your reasoning now with the biz side, but there that means getting rid of the corruption in the fact of the vast waste and mis management along side a government that clearly isnt working for the people, but there own back pockets cause while most familys are struggling in day to day things, they give themselves £8000 pay rise each year and put there friends into roles to do as they are told, it's straight up greed.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Yeah this one always boggles the mind, whites are the only demographic to say "Let's stop having kids" yet every other demographic is having more and more while laughing their asses off, Not exactly big brain thinking, I honestly think with a lot of whites the survival instinct or self preservation is completely gone.
Greenback
Active member
this will make me look bad but I don't think it killed enough to be classed as a purge only 3 million is a drop in the ocean to what numbers would need to do the trick
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
I watched a video that had numerous specialists a while back that all basically said the same thing, The real issue isn't current population numbers but rather every single countries rampant corruption and mismanagement.
We have so many people in important positions and positions of power in pretty much all countries who have no idea what to do but got to these positions because they went to the right school or have the right type of handshake, Until that is addressed it's not going to change.
Greenback
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the reconing is the earth can support 9 to 10 billion we are already at 8 at the current growth rate we increase 80 million so in 25 years we will hit that 10 billion, and dwindeling resources we've got about another 50 years of viable oil then we're back to horse and cart. so too many people is a problem.
As for having people in power who know what to do can be bought, we see that with scientist who deny climate change and fudge the numbers and use fudged graphs to show it whose ever in power wil be open to paid for holidays
