Extreme Prometeia now part of Overclock3D!!!

[PV5150]

Right! Well I've deliberately stayed away from posting here until the air had cleared a little...which it seems to be doing somewhat. However, I feel the need to air my thoughts now.

To all EPUK members I can understand how you feel regarding the integration (for want of a better word) of the EPUK forum into OC3D. No doubt you are all experiencing feelings of displacement and possibly even betrayal to some extent. But, from what I know of XMS and Kemp, it was never intended to be the demise of EPUK as you knew it, but more like a token of 'helping a brother out'.

I agree with many of the things that Hannibal stated in his previous post....it's really nice to see that someone from EPUK has made the effort to post something positive about what has transpired. Personally I would love to see EPUK benching hard here at OC3D, not as OC3D, but merely in their new home. Which again I think the move was always intended to be.

I think Kempez summed it up best:

We heard EP-UK was in trouble and Phil was struggling, we offered to help him out and he accepted. We didn't want a split of the bench team, we certanly didn't want a lot of hassle, but we did want to stop the site/domain from simply going straight down the pan and having nothing to do with overclocking.

@ maverik-sg1:

...more of the fact of our personal data in terms of private information (emails, msn and such like) was taken and used without consult or permission

Taken and used by whom? I can vouch for XMS and Kemp that they would have had absolutely nothing to do with a deliberate invasion of privacy.

Now I'm not a Director of OC3D and subsequently not privy to the intricacies of what has happened, but I do know that Kemp and XMS are working on something mutually amicable for both parties. Regardless; I hope that many/all of EPUK's members stick around. It would be a dreadful shame to see nothing remain of EPUK, other than mere memories. Take care...

PV

 

[maverik-sg1]

I really don't want to continue down this route so let me draw a line under the reference.

Firstly I do not refer to the movement of posts, that is in the public domain and I think we can except that it was there for all to see .

When I say private information - I mean that Phil Standbridge gave OC3D all the private details of each member required to register EPUK members at OC3D.

When I say used - OC3D then used that information to register everyone on the OC3D site.

When I say without consultation or consent - I mean all this was done without prior knowledge, consultation or consent by the members of EPUK - who have a right to choose what level of information is passed between companies or whoever really.

Whilst I agree that Phil gave you this information and is guilty of that - OC3D must also take reponsibilty as a team of experienced people who have been in this business for years that to simply re-register people using that information without first prior consultation or consent or each individual member is a breach of privacy.

I was not and am not saying that this was done malicously or with the intent to use this information other than the greater good.

I am saying that it is in breach of ones privacy - To have this information pass between two parties without consultation and consent of the person who's privacy it affects.

So you can say whine to Phil, but lets be mature and say mistakes were made on both sides - and that assumption is not a viable reason to claim 'we're not at fault'.

 

[JN]

Without wanting to sound crass, I'm not quite sure what the private information you are referring to is?

As with every forum, information you put in your profile is classed as a "Public Profile". Therefore anybody on the internet is able to see this information, so if it's not fit for public viewing, it shouldn't be there at all.

In fact, Overclock3D takes privacy so seriously, that it won't even allow non-members (or members with less than 10 posts) to see any of your Public information.

The only information which could be deemed as private is your password, and I can assure that this is stored in non-reversible MD5 with a random salt that would take around 136 years to crack. Of course you are also free to change it as you see fit.

At the end of the day, EP-UK is now part of OC3D, and regardless of whether we left the EP-Uk forums as they were or ported them over to Overclock3D, no more or less people would have access to your Private Information which is stored in your Public Profile.

 

[maverik-sg1]

I guess that the passing of email addresses that people wish to keep is sacred to them and other information that is required to be registered but is chosen by the user to remain hidden/private is also the information that I refer.

This is all information that the person who's information it belongs should have a say in where it goes or how it is used.

Having that, information given to you by a 3rd party is not a 'green light' to use to register people onto your site without consultation or consent from the owner of that private information.

I am sure there is a law to prevent this?

 

[chudley]

Only just noticed this thread and dont want to get into a debate over the politics so WELCOME to ALL new members of this forum.:wavey:

I hope you continue to contribute in helping all those that look for help and advice on here as has happened in the past.

 

[Psykotik]

I signed up to EP-UK aaaages ago (infact the first Chilly 1 head that Fatty played with was supplied by myself!) but since I decimated 3ks worth of rig and everyone started benchmarking rather than purely building and clocking to extremes for the fun of it, I haven't really been an "active" member so to speak but have kept abreast the goings on.

Now I can quite understand feeling a little bit narked about having the site closed down for the time being, but seriously, you guys are sounding like a bunch of

y teenage girls.

At the end of the day, the community that was developed at EP-UK is exactly that, a community. It's still here is it not? You still have a desire to bench competetively under the EP-UK name? Go ahead, feel free, no one's stopping you, have you lost your identity in any way? No.

Looking around the site, this seems like a pretty good place and is no where near as stagnant as EP-UK was getting, so I'm more than happy to continue posting here and can see why Phil thought that a merger was a good idea.

If you're all going to continue whining about things that have already transpired, who's competing and making sure that the records stay in UK hands?

 

[maverik-sg1]

If you're all going to continue whining about things that have already transpired, who's competing and making sure that the records stay in UK hands?

If you had read all of this post you would know that's already in hand mate

 

[mrapoc]

Its showing i'm on 4/5 pages here - when i click 5 or next it sends me back to 4?

 

[Psykotik]

Good stuff! You gonna try to regain your crown then Mav?

 

[Mindless-Moron]

I am sure there is a law to prevent this?

There is, the Data Protection Act states that the processing or passing of details to a third party without consent is illegal.

EPUK was not dying/stagnant/stale, just because there wern't 500 new posts a day doesn't mean it was dying, it was infact picking up again. EPUK wasn't a cluttered forum, you didn't need to post, you could just read it, it wasn't cluttered and spammed with useless people who insisted on adding their 2p.

 

[Psykotik]

I don't know of any places that are spammed so to speak as the moderators tend to catch the vast majority of that, but as a whole EP-UK was becoming quite stagnant with only a few regular posters contributing to a small section of the overclocking/enthusiast sections rather than having a more diverse selection of active topics.

Change is good, having more like minded people to bounce opinions/insults off and generally banter with is always a good thing, plus the more people there are the more fierce and interesting the competition is

 

[pants marshall]

you forum is broken, i'am on pg 12 when i see pg's 13 and 14 but cannot view them

 

[pants marshall]

ahhhh i see, i'am on pg 13 now i have just posted^^^^^, but why do i see a pg 14 when clearly there isnt one?

 

[pants marshall]

i would of editied my last post but i cannot find an edit button..........please dont take this as usless spammage

 

[Azza]

Some people have been put on a global ignore. Sacha I do believe thats why you canny see the pages as he has posted.

I think thats the reason any way.

 

[mrapoc]

Im back to 5/5

change the amount of posts per page in settings and it may fix itself

 

[JN]

Closing this thread now as I think everyone has had enough of a chance to say how they feel.

For the people that want to become part of an amazingly friendly and intelligent community: Welcome to Overclock3D.

For those who want to leave: I wish you the best in the future, and if you have anything you'd like to discuss with us, please contact one of the Admin or Mod team via PM.