Expandable AIO´s...

[The_Governour]

Ok, I would like to share some experience with these expandable AIO´s that are out there:

Raijintek Triton AIO:

Fractal Design AIO series:

Alphacool Eisberg AIO:

Raijintek Triton - I bought one of these as it has one of the more pleasing pumps and most L/per hour. This is expandable yes BUT....... and a big BUT.... you can only change the tubing as the barbs WONT COME OUT. You can NOT use the 1/4 barbs with this AIO. I broke one trying as I had not realized that the barbs would not come out.... Now it leaks and I can throw it away - was not even mounted once - still has the platsic cover on the pump!

Fractal Design S series - This is a nice AIO that is very clean and works well but has the intake and out take on the pump block are on the side - then yet again it will be very hard to use standard 1/4 barbs compression fittings like 1/2" - 13/19mm - so you would have to use the smaller ones that are standard on the S series. Also the pump can be noisy on full load.

Alphacool Eisberg - This has good enough spacing to fit a angle fitting and to use the 1/2" - 13/19mm compression fittings. On a side note then its important to get the low noise edition pump OR the New V2 Eisberg pump block that they have recently released.


All of this would be thought for a very small mini itx loop where space is a luxuary and just a pump block res like one of these 3 would come in handy.

 

[tolagarf]

Thank you for this valuable information! I saw a video of the Alphacool Eisberg pump in action which was terrible loud.

Edit: Found another video of the Eisberg in action, and it was actually quite faint running on 7v.

From my own experience I can add:

Swiftech H240-X:

Looks great and the pump can handle a lot of pressure. Noise levels are very low on this one too, if one manages to get ALL the air out, which isn't easy I might add but doable. Downside is the reservoir window cracks easy if one isn't careful with the handling. Don't EVER touch that bleed screw in the window, you'll regret that...

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Btw The Governour, which of those 3 would you recommend for the lowest possible pump noise when using Noctua fans?

 

[The_Governour]

Btw The Governour, which of those 3 would you recommend for the lowest possible pump noise when using Noctua fans?

I would say that the Raijintek Pump has very little noise, you cant realy hear it while having any case fans on. Just remember that the barbs DONT come out - you have to use the tubing with ID - 9,5 mm - / OD - 12.5mm.

The Alphacool Eisberg is loud if you get the 3600+ rpm version but the V2 version is not loud at all.

Here is a video of it - skipp to 4.05 and see the comparrison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGlzRd1oAI4

I have not said anything of the Swiftek H220 or the H220x as I can not get my hands on them and so I have not tried them - I cant find them in stock any where. Also the H220X can be a bit too large and bulky for a small mini itx build.

For example in a case that is not too small like the Corsair 250D then it wont fit in the 240 rad spacing that it has due to the pump.

 

[tolagarf]

Hmm I'm just not sure which one is the V2. Alphacool doesn't list it as either, but I did check out a video where the high speed version is testet with 12v and 7v, and it seems reasonable for use with Fractal Define case. Running at 7v is does seem quite faint (also considering it's sitting in a bowl of sort, which could resonate)

Edit: Also since the pump can handle 5-12 voltage setting, it shouldn't be hard adjusting the speed according to CPU command with an Asus motherboard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLWt-X00q04

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Alright the V2 Eisberg isn't available yet, according to their Facebook page. It's coming in 1-2 months. Looking forward to it

 

[The_Governour]

If you check it out in aquatunning then there are 2 versions for now that I see:

Alphacool Eisberg (Solo) - Low Noise Edition 2400rpm - Manufacture ID -12199

Alphacool Eisberg (Solo) - High Speed Edition 3600rpm - Manufacture ID - 12192

*edit*

Alright the V2 Eisberg isn't available yet, according to their Facebook page. It's coming in 1-2 months. Looking forward to it

Nice!

 

[tolagarf]

If you check it out in aquatunning then there are 2 versions for now that I see:

Alphacool Eisberg (Solo) - Low Noise Edition 2400rpm - Manufacture ID -12199

Alphacool Eisberg (Solo) - High Speed Edition 3600rpm - Manufacture ID - 12192

*edit*

Nice!

One would assume the low noise edition is the V2, but I don't think so considering what they said on their Facebook page. I do hope they hurry up, since I'll need it soon hehe

 

[Wraith]

Nice findings dude, are you sure the raijintek can't be repaired? Seems a shame to bin it without looking for a fix.

 

[The_Governour]

Nice findings dude, are you sure the raijintek can't be repaired? Seems a shame to bin it without looking for a fix.

It leaks just at the barb of the inport on the pump..... I twisted it with my fingers but I have quite some grip strength and I think it cracked just where they glued it in....

I will have a look later on but I dont think it can be fixed - maybe only if I use some other sealing glue, but then the tube might be stuck for ever! Will post a picture later.

Here are some photos...

Here are some photos of the Raijintek AIO where u can see the barbs that WONT come out:

Also see how easy the tube bends and kinks - this unit was in the box and was not placed well and see what a kink it got.

 

[The_Governour]

edit double post.

 

[diablo1105]

I have not said anything of the Swiftek H220 or the H220x as I can not get my hands on them and so I have not tried them - I cant find them in stock any where. Also the H220X can be a bit too large and bulky for a small mini itx build.

For example in a case that is not too small like the Corsair 250D then it wont fit in the 240 rad spacing that it has due to the pump.

I can attest to the H220X being fairly bulky in an ITX build. I'm going to do my first custom WC build due to my results with the H220X.

Picture below is with the H220X in the roof as it was the only location I could mount it.

 

[The_Governour]

I have talked to Alphacool and they have told me that there is no set date for the release of the Eisberg V2 pump for now - sadly.

I might have to be forced to get the Alphacool Eisberg LOW NOISE edition of the pum and then I will report back - with results.

 

[The_Governour]

I am just wondering if anyone has done any mini itx build with any of these AIO´s? Or anyone lese have any aditional info of other experiences?

I have talked to Alphacool again and they seem not to have the *new* Pump Solo version ready. Not for now at least and they have no new release date.

 

[tinytomlogan]

I have talked to Alphacool and they have told me that there is no set date for the release of the Eisberg V2 pump for now - sadly.

I might have to be forced to get the Alphacool Eisberg LOW NOISE edition of the pum and then I will report back - with results.

V2 is 2016 afaik

 

[JR23]

Until the 'next' Alphacool pumps come along, and I don't mean Eisberg V2's then the Kelvin is still the best option. Depending on if you can accommodate the ports with proper fittings, in a lot of situations it will be ok.

It isn't impossible to find room for proper watercooling parts in an ITX build either. DDC might be the way.

JR

 

[The_Governour]

Ok I have gotten some more response from Alphacool and they say that the *new* version is NOT called Eisberg but will be called Eisbear lol....

It will MAYBE be released in 2 months.

@JR23 I am looking at these AIO´s that are expandable for a Mini ITX build as some cases are too small to fit a DDC and a res - thus - a AIO like the Eisberg would come in handy. Look at the Cooler Master Elite 110 case - imagine a normal CPU and GPU cooled by one 120 mm radiator.

If the 295 X 2 can be cooled with a single 120mm rad then a i5-4570S + gtx 750ti can be cooled with a single 120mm rad or? All I am saying that some cases are too small to house a res AND a seperate pump.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Ok I have gotten some more response from Alphacool and they say that the *new* version is NOT called Eisberg but will be called Eisbear lol....

It will MAYBE be released in 2 months.

@JR23 I am looking at these AIO´s that are expandable for a Mini ITX build as some cases are too small to fit a DDC and a res - thus - a AIO like the Eisberg would come in handy. Look at the Cooler Master Elite 110 case - imagine a normal CPU and GPU cooled by one 120 mm radiator.

If the 295 X 2 can be cooled with a single 120mm rad then a i5-4570S + gtx 750ti can be cooled with a single 120mm rad or? All I am saying that some cases are too small to house a res AND a seperate pump.

While you could do that, in practice, the fan would be spinning really fast making it pretty loud. CPUs run hotter than GPUs. It's normal under water for a GPU to be in the 40C range while the CPU is in the 60C range.

You can easily fit a res and pump and rad in nearly all cases. Put the res on the rad with a UN adapter and get a small DDC pump and put it where ever or even attached to the res. Boom solved(for most cases).

 

[JR23]

Ok I have gotten some more response from Alphacool and they say that the *new* version is NOT called Eisberg but will be called Eisbear lol....

It will MAYBE be released in 2 months.

@JR23 I am looking at these AIO´s that are expandable for a Mini ITX build as some cases are too small to fit a DDC and a res - thus - a AIO like the Eisberg would come in handy. Look at the Cooler Master Elite 110 case - imagine a normal CPU and GPU cooled by one 120 mm radiator.

If the 295 X 2 can be cooled with a single 120mm rad then a i5-4570S + gtx 750ti can be cooled with a single 120mm rad or? All I am saying that some cases are too small to house a res AND a seperate pump.

A single 120mm rad could easily deal with that heat load relatively quietly. I have a loop with a 290X and AX120 radiator, so thats easily 200W and with a fan at 1000RPM it runs around the 55°C mark. There is even a lot of headroom left for overclocking. So the concept is valid, well it is IF your actually making it quieter or smaller than it was on air. It's not like 750Ti's are uncontrollable.

You could easily fit a DDC in a CM110, just using an SFX PSU would save a lot of room and then you have opened up thousands of options. Additionally you don't need a reservoir, it just makes it easier. If you have two easily accessible fill ports like on the back of a GPU block then you could fill it and bleed it. A kelvin doesn't have a res, nor do most AIO's.

I do like your concept and it's definitely possible although like turn up the ambition! Fury Nano and 4790k in something smaller than a CM110.

Alphacool have some tiny pumps that are much smaller than a DDC, (they are actually the pump out of a Kelvin)

http://www.alphacool.com/product_info.php/info/p1058_Alphacool-DC-LT-Ceramic---12V-DC-Pro.html

http://www.alphacool.com/product_info.php/info/p1059_Alphacool-DC-LT-Ceramic---12V-DC-Pro-AGB.html

JR

 

[The_Governour]

I do like your concept and it's definitely possible although like turn up the ambition! Fury Nano and 4790k in something smaller than a CM110.




JR

That sound good but a single thin 120mm rad would not be able to handle that heat load with the fan not sounding like a Jet turbine. Even at stock I would say that it woul be pretty hot.

That is why I would go with a low power i5 or even i7 with a low powered GPU, thus I would say a perfect combination would be the i5-4570S at 65w or even the i5-4570T at 35w combined with 750ti at 60w.

The 950 series are now at 90w but then price to performance ratio of components would be a mess as I think the 950 is way over priced.

Also, in the CM110 can it fit a SFX power supply? I cant seem to find any info on the matter.