dave87's MiniITX Project **56k**

Parts have arrived!

Got home this evening, and waiting for me was a parcel from City Link. Kinda forgot to tell Dad to expect delivery (sent it to his work address, always someone there vs hit & miss at home), so he was surprised to be bringing me a package.

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What was inside?

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Rather nondescript box, but it is what is inside which counts. And look, free Wotsits :D

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On a rather more serious note, a size comparison. This is the box the motherboard came in, with a 120mm fan on top:

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Not sure why they bothered putting a bin with a cross through it on the box, not as if I wanna chuck the £100 straight in the bin! Even for such a tiny box, the included contents are comprehensive, if not as numerous as with, say, a high end core2duo mobo.

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Close up of the motherboard itself, note the routing of the fan's power wire, not exactly helpful to either airflow, or should it sag towards the fan, conducive of a long lifespan. Easily fixed, but a couple of seconds in working out to mount the fan the otherway round, and it wouldn't have been a problem.

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Still, the motherboard has the full array of connectors, for USB ports, to 1394 (Firewire) and front panel audio, all of which, hopefully at least, will be the same pin outs as the existing cables. Unfortunately life is not all plain sailing. I thought I'd test fit the motherboard in the case to see how much space it would need, and to see how much space would remain, and I hit a small snag.

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What I had presumed to be a standard ITX/ATX back panel, was not. Bugger. The Firewire out socket, circled in red, is almost entirely hidden behind the metal part of the case. Same problem, but from inside the case:

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It also means that expansion cards won't fit as standard:

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So, I think the dremel may have to come out earlier than I expected. The bits in blue may have to be removed, I'm not sure yet, as I haven't really had a chance to contemplated what I'm going to do. May just remove part of them, but once I've done that, I might aswell remove the whole thing. Note the modder's essentials, electrical tape, and KFC for dinner :D

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The rear should be rigid enough, especially with the PSU bolted in to remove both of those sections, but I may fabricate a plate to convert the two PCI slots into one, right bang slap in the middle. Really depends on time, and if I can get hold of the materials and borrow my dear ol' Grandad's workshop for a couple of hours. That and avoid injuring myself during the process :rolleyes:

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Unfortunately a rather blurry picture (still don't know how to work the bloody Sony camera), but it should give you an idea as to the difference in size between a normal backplate and the one that this case was designed around.

Finally, a couple of pictures to show the mobo installed in the case, and the solution to the fan wire problem.

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Fair bit smaller than the mobo I pulled out of it!

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The solution to the fan wire - just tucked under the mobo so it doesn't disrupt the airflow (limited as it may be) in the case.

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And one to show the length of the PSU wire, and the amazingly short distance it has to travel. I don't really want to be cutting and shortening it, so I'll probably try the cable tie route, but something needs to be done to move it out of the way!

Oh, and the final snaffu of the night, the Power/Reset and Power/HDD LED wires.

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Literally a centimetre too short. Still gotta find the best way round that, but for some reason I feel it may involve a soldering iron :(

As Bugs Bunny would say, That's all folks!
 
name='robump' said:
That motherboard is tiny!!!!!

Indeed it is :)

Oh, and I might have solved the 4in3 drive bay problem, thanks to Robby Bottenberg @ Coolermaster, more on that as I know for definite :D
 
Good lookin' gear mate. Too bad there are so many holdups ur running in to. Any idea why things are matching up the way they are supposed to??
 
name='FragTek' said:
Good lookin' gear mate. Too bad there are so many holdups ur running in to. Any idea why things are matching up the way they are supposed to??

I have a feeling, that even though it was advertised as an ITX based board & case, they actually didn't conform to the specifications. :(

Basically, they thought sod it, and designed their own Mobo/Case combo, and said ya boo shucks to the rest of you. ah well :(

The other side of the holdup is stock levels, and my limited timeframe in which to do the work. I'm heading back to uni 2moro (or today as it now is) and won't be able to do any more for a week or so. At least that gives time for the RAM and drive bay *fingers crossed* to arrive. Bad thing is, its given me time to think about other bits to add to the project, all of which will be revealed as and when the bits can be sought and the work done :)

But, as I keep reminding myself, it wouldn't be fun/interesting/challenging if it all bolted straight in now, would it? :p
 
that's a pretty interesting setup you're going for there. I think you gave me the idea to migrate from my pentium 4 media center to a via C7 build.

Ryan
 
It wasn't what I originally thought of, as I thought my budget would only stretch to something like a C3. With the arrival of C7 and the drops in DDR2 prices, it made it a possibility.

I'm not sure how well it will fair as a media centre, but it should definately hold its own as a server, if nothing else :)
 
I read a review of it the other day, struggled quite a bit with HD stuff but seemed fine for normal media files.
 
name='dave87' said:
Indeed it is :)

Oh, and I might have solved the 4in3 drive bay problem, thanks to Robby Bottenburg @ Coolermaster, more on that as I know for definite :D

Glad to hear that mate, very nice guy who goes out of his way to please!

Defineatly be keeping an eye on this, looks like it will be a very interesting build :cool:
 
I thought I had mentioned this, but apparently not.

Short delay on the project as I'm at uni for the last exam of the year, but come friday (when I return home) there should be a big update, as I'm hoping everything will have arrived :)

Dave
 
If I didn't just score a pair of computers for free this is what I was going to do to replace my desktop rig after seeing this thread.

I think I might still do something like this down the road. I want a midgetized computer that I can hook up to the TV :)
 
Bit of a lame update this evening, as I have only had about an hour to work on it :(

Right, well some things arrived:

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Would just like to say a big thanks to Robby Bottenberg @ Coolermaster for this one, much appreciated :) More photos of that later....

and equally importantly:

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1gb PC2-4200 goodness from OCZ. This means I've got all the parts to create a working machine:

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...which has just finished installing Kubuntu, thought I'd give Linux a try :)

More photos and a bigger update tomorrow, after I get some sleep :)
 
How can I say no to another hour spent modding? Spent this afternoon trying to find the bits required to do other things I have planned, but Maplin failed miserably to provide them, so I'm a little annoyed. I'll explain more as I get those bits.

Here is what I've done so far...

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One Coolermaster 4in3 module, pretty standard. Well, not for long.

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Half way through removing the rivets...do the same to the other side, and voila:

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the drivebay thingy is split in two...comparison side by side to show the reduction in size (remember to actually mount it in a 5.25" bay, you would need the plates that go either side, adding even more width):

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Only one downside to removing rivets, remove too many and this happens: :(

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Now I've removed the bits I don't need, on to the thing it is most likely to be bolted to:

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As I've shown before, this part needs modifying to allow the new hard drive cage to fit in the case. Guess what the blue line is for? Guessed it yet? Well if not, here's it halfway done:

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One more side to go, and the cutting is complete:

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Now those bits are complete, I measured what would need to be removed from the two pieces to enable the motherboard and it to coexist:

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I'll need the jigsaw for that, the dremel would chew through cutting discs too quickly. That'll have to be done on Monday. Then the two new pieces bolted into the case, as if they were holding a DVD drive:

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And with a DVD drive screwed in:

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Fits aswell as before, which is a bonus. One thing I did notice was the edges were a bit rough, so I'll file them before the final install.

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Notice the two small holes that have appeared? well, they are the pilot holes for the rivets which will join that to this:

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Which, weirdly enough, has 4 corresponding holes....genius huh? Using two old 20gb Hard drives to hold the thing together as it is drilled and cut, so they are probably knackered now (if they weren't before hand).

Remember this part?

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well, with a bit of deconstruction it becomes:

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Freeing up the fan I needed. Still got to work out how to mount the fan next to the new reduced size hard drive cage. I'm sure I'll find a use for the other bits too, though :)

Well, again, That's all folks! Lemmie know what you think, and come monday I should have another update for you.
 
Well, quite a lot of progress, but as such, forgot to take pictures. Will take more when I take it apart again.

Here's how the project stands. To all those naysayers who said it can't be done, well I have. So :P

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Further jobs include cable ties & wire management, installing the other hard disks, and wiring up the front pannel connectors, so still a fair bit to go :)
 
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