dave87's MiniITX Project **56k**

dave87

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Right, well as some of you may have seen from my other thread, I intend to bring new life to a rather nice case, which my sister knackered the internals of.

The case is this one:

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So pretty nice looking. Thought it would be a shame/crime to throw it away, and wondered what I could do with it. Then I realised I'm moving into a new house next year, gunna have a bit more space than I would otherwise have, so it's going to be a media machine. First it is going to take care of my MP3 collection, then, if I can get hold of a suitable hard disk carrier (ala Wanted thread) mod it to be my home server.

So, How big is it really?

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As you can see, I've already removed the motherboard, but the hard disk in there is a standard 3.5" drive, this photo would probably give you a better comparison though, against a 120mm fan.

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As you can see, once the caddies that came with it are removed, it's not a bad size. The PSU you see there is a 220w unit, so that should be more than adequate for the 25w board and 6-8w each hard disk would use. The PSU itself has a basic range of connectors on it:

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So I'm probably going to cannibalise leads from a dead PSU, then sleeve the lot to make it look good.

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This shows the back of the PC. As you may have guessed from the provision of two expansion slots, it was designed for ITX, not mini ITX. If I fit cathodes to the machine, then this could be a location for the on/off switch, otherwise it'll be the place for the spare usb headers, and maybe an ESATA port. Also, not sure if the Parrallel & Digital Audio out spaces (which I have the connectors for) will fit the new board, so might have to do something with them, not quite sure what yet. Might also replace the PSU fan, last time I started the machine one of the fans was making a bit of noise, if its that one then it will be replaced with a blue one, to match the power button. Haven't got an action shot, but its blue around the edge, which pulses with hdd activity.

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This picture also shows the layout of the front, not quite sure what to do with the 3.5" bay, but I'm going to try and get most, if not all the ports on the front working (the board I'm thinking of ordering has firewire & audio headers, not sure about the optical in/out though), so it remains as close as aesthetically possible to the original (which I must say, I thought looked pretty damn good).

Oh, and one final picture, the dead board I pulled from it:

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Was a Athlon 2600+ with a Gig of RAM, GF4 inbuilt graphics (or for a time, Radeon 9600 Pro). Not bad, but did run hot :( Hopefully this incarnation will be a bit cooler :)
 
Right, that sums up what I've got so far, now on to what I intend to do with it.

Install a new motherboard - most likely this one, coupled with a single gig stick of DDR2, quite possibly this.

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Good range of connectors on the board itself, and headers (see above) for the front panel.

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The two above images sourced from LinITX.com

1.5ghz Via C7 and a Gig of RAM, should be speedy enough for serving MP3s, and even serving files. It's the fastest board I could find without going to silly money (ie the Commell Core2Duo boards). It also has the benefit of being compatible with addon daughterboards, adding connectivity such as DVI or up to 3x Gigabit Ethernet. The PCI slot will most likely harbour a soundcard if anything, as it has 2 IDE channels & 2 SATA channels on board - allowing up to 6 hard drives - more than I am likely to be able to fit in the small machine.

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I thought I might have to modify the standoffs on the case floor, but on checking these images, they seem to be in roughly the same place. Here's to hoping I get lucky, and it bolts straight in. Again, I may have to modify the last two (they are fixed, not screw in unfortunately) to get the most space for the hard drive rack.

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One thing that will definitely need modding, however, is the cd-rom/floppy drive tray.

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This shows the likely location of the cut, thus leaving the DVD-ROM holder in place, and removing the Floppy drive holder I don't need :) Hopefully the mountings for the front panel connectors can stay in the same place, won't know until I get the hard drive carrier I want to use.

That is pretty much as far as I've got on what I want to do with it, I'm sure new ideas will pop into my head as I go along, and as I receive the bits and test fit them, but I'm hoping to avoid biting off more than I can chew :)
 
Looks pretty manageable Dave - your pretty good with a dremel anyway aren't you?

That board looks sweet - those via CPU's are good lil beasties :)
 
I like to think I can hold my own :)

I'm hoping the C7 will be good, and with a Gig of RAM (the max the board can take) I'm hoping it'll be pretty nippy in Windows (XP, none of my machines run Vista yet).

Motherboard ordered, just waiting on PV to come back to me about the drive caddy thing, then I'll order the RAM (and caddy if needed)
 
Right, I've finally broken out the credit card.

Ordered:

1x Motherboard

1x 1GB Stick DDR2

1x Coolermaster 4in3 thingy.

But, it appears the RAM I wanted and the Coolermaster thingy have now gone OOS :(

So, pending the results of a coversation with Scan, I may well have to change the order, and get the drivebay & memory from elsewhere. Bugger.
 
You thought about the option of using 2.5" hdd unstead of 3.5"? it would help with the heat as 3.5 can kick some heat out.
 
lol, I mentioned that to him on another forum earlier and he brought up the good point about price/capacity.
 
name='nathan' said:
You thought about the option of using 2.5" hdd unstead of 3.5"? it would help with the heat as 3.5 can kick some heat out.

I must admit the thought had crossed my mind. But even if I could fit 2x2.5" drives, I wouldn't outstripe the capacity of 1x3.5" drive. Also, 160gb 2.5" drives (biggest they do) are slow and expensive, compared with a 320 or 400gb 3.5" drive.
 
Right, I'd finally broken out the credit card.

Ordered:

1x Motherboard

1x 1GB Stick DDR2

1x Coolermaster 4in3 thingy.

But, it appears the RAM I wanted and the Coolermaster thingy have now gone OOS :(

So, after a conversation with Scan, it appears they are long overdue a consignment of the Coolermaster Drive Bay things, and the RAM I wanted (Corsair Value Select) wouldn't be in for a few days. So, ended up cancelling the order with Scan, and this is the revised order list:

1x Motherboard

1x 1GB Stick DDR2

Got the RAM from Ebuyer - some nice OCZ Value stuff (everything except their value ram came as 2 stick packages, eg 2x512 or 2x1gb, not much use when you've only got a single RAM slot), and I still need to source a Coolermaster Drive Bay thingy :(

In more positive news, the motherboard was dispatched today, so that should arrive tomorrow, the RAM is sheduled for delivery Friday. Should give me some time to experiment with the placement of the different bits, get an idea of how much space I'll have, and determine what sorta cooling will be required :)
 
Thats going to be good, what sort of server software are you thinking of using, becuase ive done a similar thing but with a big old tower case, not sure what to run on it, tried linux and server 2003, but both very timecomsuming and hard to setup.

Any suggestiosn

Rob
 
I'm not sure what software I'm going to be using. I've got an XP Home license spare that may go on it to start with, but either Linux or Windows Home Server would be the next port of call :)
 
when windows home server is releasid, i am definatly going to try it, but i missed the trial date unfortunatly, otherwise i could of tested it.

Rob
 
I would say Linux and here is why.

1. Lower ram usage since you are limited on the amount of ram you can have.

2. More storage flexibility with LVM, NFS, Samba

3. Stability, if you used a distro such as Debian, you know the stability is going to be good.

The only downside I can think of is the slightly more difficult install.
 
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