AX860i or AX1200i for Dual R9 290X?

[SparkleDJackson]

what motherboard has enough sata6 ports for that buddy. that would be a beastly amount of storage cap. also see the cuda stuff i dont have much experience but when i rendered with gpu acceleration on my 670s the video was a little fuzzier than just the 3930k. it that normal or were my settings not right. sorry for the half hijack but it seems relevant. is it that the 6/7 series cuda was crippled in comparison to the 5s and this is the result or am i wrong. sorry again bud.

 

[Jeremy1998]

Planning on painting it again then are you?


Try and remember there are people here that actually understand how things work and the effects when you do.

Your blatant inexperience is quite comical, dont try to to be something you are not dude because there are plenty of people here that can see through it.

Like the 480 in the bottom, you say you made it fit, you either bodged it or relocated the PSU. you dont do that then "just use a 360 in the roof"

Start posting some pictures and a proper build log because Im starting to hear dreams and wishes more than actions. That really doesnt go down well here, facts are all we wanna hear when you say "I have done"

Not to be rude, but I would prefer constructive criticism rather than being called a liar. Here's what I have done so far. I've removed the bottom drive cage, and I've cut a space for the PSU to lay vertically. It looks like trash now, but I am going to be making a new mid-plate for the case, so you won't even see the cuts or power supply.

A wider shot, showing the HDD cage removed. I know the midplate is sagging, it's just because I didn't mount it back in place (rivet or nut & bolt) yet.


And a bit more close up on where the PSU will go. Obviously this is just a test fit PSU, and the cuts are rough. It's all gonna get smoothed down, and it will all be covered up anyways.


And the reason I haven't made a proper build log is because all I have is my phone. I am a video guy, not a picture guy. And I've found that people on here don't like watching a build video. Plus I'm afraid to be attacked by trolls and such, as always seems to be the case unfortunately :/

I have some video of me cutting the case, so let me know if you want me to edit that up or not... it's no big deal if it's something people want to see, but it's a waste of time if nobody cares.

what motherboard has enough sata6 ports for that buddy. that would be a beastly amount of storage cap. also see the cuda stuff i dont have much experience but when i rendered with gpu acceleration on my 670s the video was a little fuzzier than just the 3930k. it that normal or were my settings not right. sorry for the half hijack but it seems relevant. is it that the 6/7 series cuda was crippled in comparison to the 5s and this is the result or am i wrong. sorry again bud.

sata6 for what? I'm only gonna have 2 SSDs... The rest will be HDDs run off of some RAID card... I'll decide the model later.

I've never had the luxury of GPU accelleration before, so I couldn't tell you. But I'm sure the blurry output was some settings error... Professionals (like real, million dollar professionals) use GPU acceleration, and I really doubt they would sacrifice quality. I think the 6 series was crippled from the memory bus. So yeah, a 770 and below would still be crippled. But the 780 has a wider bus now, so it should keep up pretty well.

I would honestly prefer an R9 290X (I root for AMD when ever I can), but I'm afraid to drop $1400USD on two of them, and then find that a bunch of programs don't support AMD cards. CUDA just seems to be a more widely accepted solution.

 

[tinytomlogan]

So whats the point of doing that if youre just going to put the rad in the roof lol

 

[Jeremy1998]

So whats the point of doing that if youre just going to put the rad in the roof lol

I'm having a 480 in the bottom and something in the roof. This is a workstation, and I'm getting into making short films, and indie films. Those could render for possibly 24 hours if I got into effects and color correction and all that fancy stuff. I wanna be able to keep this thing SILENT, even on its 18th hour of rendering or something like that. I just don't think an OCd 3930k and 2 OCd GPUs (what ever I decide) will stay cool on a single 360 or 420 in the roof.

Plus I think you said it yourself, sometimes you mod for aesthetics. When I'm done, this WILL look nice!

 

[SparkleDJackson]

Im sure the pros dont user general consumer grade gpus. Im sure they use quadro/tesla or firepro (whatevs amd call em these days) so yea a few notches above titan. Lol. I never even thought about a raid card, good point

 

[tinytomlogan]

I just really dislike this case and youve got a lot of other things to consider when building a watercooled rig. Like the least amount of hose seen as possible......

 

[Jeremy1998]

I just really dislike this case and youve got a lot of other things to consider when building a watercooled rig. Like the least amount of hose seen as possible......

I really wish I had known the 900D was coming when I bought the 800D, but it's too late to go back now :/ But as for the tubing, I think I will be able to hide it really well. There's only one tube that runs across the whole build, and I'll find a way to route that behind the mobo tray.

Or maybe I'll hold off on the watercooling and finishing up the 800D for a while, and I will worry about getting my GPUs, and getting it all working on air cooling in my switch 810 for now. That's probably better so I don't get ahead of myself.
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uhggggg..... I'm re-thinking this entirely now. I might just ditch this stupid 800D and go for something else... It feels like such a waste of money, and all the time I put into the mods so far, but I don't know if I'll ever get anywhere with the 800D.

So my question: How much radiator space does an overclocked 3930k, and 2 overclocked 780's need to stay cool while working for several hours? Once I know how much radiator area I need, I can re-evaluate my options for cases.

 

[Lazlo]

Im sure the pros dont user general consumer grade gpus. Im sure they use quadro/tesla or firepro (whatevs amd call em these days) so yea a few notches above titan. Lol. I never even thought about a raid card, good point

In theory it should make no difference except the time it takes. It's all digital and all the cuda cores or the prozessor do(es), is to "calculate" the single pictures of the video with the edits, effects and corrections you applied. Since those are all algorythms aplied to your digital source material, using cuda support or using only the cpu should make no difference in the result.

 

[tinytomlogan]

A 360 and a 240 even with low speed fans would be fine.

CPU will always get warm but just adding rads wont fix that.

Orca is 2x 360's with fans that hardly spin cpu hits 70c max GPU's 45-50!

 

[Jeremy1998]

A 360 and a 240 even with low speed fans would be fine.

CPU will always get warm but just adding rads wont fix that.

Orca is 2x 360's with fans that hardly spin cpu hits 70c max GPU's 45-50!

Wait, I thought 60c was the max for a 3960x? Anyways, I guess I'll start looking for cases that can fit a 240, a 360, and at least 4 hard drives.

 

[tinytomlogan]

Wait, I thought 60c was the max for a 3960x? Anyways, I guess I'll start looking for cases that can fit a 240, a 360, and at least 4 hard drives.

60? lol right the stock cooler would struggle with that at stock lol.

Youre planned watercooling would past 1.3v too

Corsair 750D...........

 

[Jeremy1998]

60? lol right the stock cooler would struggle with that at stock lol.

Youre planned watercooling would past 1.3v too

Corsair 750D...........

I was looking at the 750d, but I don't know how I can fit those two rads and at least 4 hard drives (preferably 6) at the same time.

 

[tinytomlogan]

build a server then, that many drives in a rig is silly. 12tb?

 

[Spiderz]

I was looking at the 750d, but I don't know how I can fit those two rads and at least 4 hard drives (preferably 6) at the same time.

2xSSDs and 2xHDD? Put the HDDs in the optical bays and hide the SSDs wherever round the back or in the SSD mounts at the front. (Trying to remember TTL's vid and if that stays in when adding rads).

 

[SparkleDJackson]

I have a 900d and im putting 2hdd and 2ssd in the odd cage. For rads I have a 360 in the roof a 360 facing the psu and a 240 on the same side of the psu. Love the crap out of this case.

 

[Jeremy1998]

No, this is a video editing workstation, where a single project can be terabytes. My plan was for 2 ssd's for boot and programs and all the essentials, and then a raid 5 for whatever project I'm working on at the time to be stored locally.

So at this point, this has nothing to do with PSUs, but it is related to what we talked about earlier.

So if I make a NAS with 4 WD Black drives in a raid 5 (with a good raid card), would that be bottlenecked by a gigabit LAN connection between sever and workstation?

Also, since Intel refuses to make a new chipset for X79....
Since I'm using GPU accelleration, would there be much of a difference between a 3930k and a 4770k for video editing and graphic design work (Adobe Premiere, After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator)?

 

[blair]

I have a 900D and 2x 480mm and 1x 240mm rad to keep my 3930k and crossfire 7970's cool everything is OC and the fans are about 40%.

 

[Kaapstad]

So at this point

You need to step back and have a good think about what you want to do.

Some of the questions you are asking and also the number of times you change your mind show you need to give more thought to where you want to go.

You also need to do more reading otherwise however much people try and help you, it will never be enough.

Also to get you started I would suggest you go for a 900D case as this will give you the options to do almost anything else you may want to do.

Take a week or so to plan out what you want to do and then come back with some questions.

I would also suggest when you get started that you do a proper build log with lots of pics, this way people will find your project interesting and will be happy to help.

 

[Jeremy1998]

You need to step back and have a good think about what you want to do.

Some of the questions you are asking and also the number of times you change your mind show you need to give more thought to where you want to go.

You also need to do more reading otherwise however much people try and help you, it will never be enough.

Also to get you started I would suggest you go for a 900D case as this will give you the options to do almost anything else you may want to do.

Take a week or so to plan out what you want to do and then come back with some questions.

I would also suggest when you get started that you do a proper build log with lots of pics, this way people will find your project interesting and will be happy to help.

Well, I know for the most part what hardware I want. The only problem I'm having is thinking of a way to store my recent projects, or the one I'm currently working on at the time. I was thinking 4 hard drives in raid 5 on a raid card, but I guess 2 very high quality SSDs in raid 0 with some sort of backup solution would work as well. The only problem there is then I need 4 sata 6gb/s in total, which means I have to go Z87. So I need to know if I would see a huge difference between my current 3930k and a 4770k, since I'm using GPU acceleration.

 

[jamesriley94]

I think the best idea would be to go with a couple of SSDs and just a 3TB backup drive. Then a little server or NAS for actual storage.

Your 'recent projects' aren't really going to take up anywhere near 3TB of storage anyway.

The advice Kaapstad gave you about taking a step back is probably the best advice you've got so far, because at the moment, this thread is coming across as 'I've got X amount of money, I want the most expensive hardware and as much storage as physically possible', and if threads on here do come across like that, people do end up losing interest pretty quickly.

2x SSDs, 3TB WD Black - then a server or NAS.

If you try and put more in the main rig, you'll end up making it a mess.

As for the SATAs, I'm not sure what you're saying? There are X79 boards that have 4 SATA 6 ports? The RIVE for example (don't you have one?). Why can't you use that?

If I'm missing something, then as far as rendering goes, there will be a bit of difference between the 3930k and the 4770k, as the 3930k has 4 more threads, which rendering programs will make use of.