8800 Ultra question.
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alienware
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That's why you use a braid. It's a strip of woven metal that you lay accross the solder and heat, and it removes all the points at once. You then use a sucker (I ain't gettin' on no plane !) and remove the component. Serious, I have seen my mate remove and replace a DIMM slot. Seen how many solder points they have? . I'm not worried about the soldering/removal or replacement of parts Diablo, more of finding out what they are.
Any way, time to make it geeky. First I found this.
Note the C pins. I would imagine that there is no green being sent through DVI port 1.
Now onto the fun part
I phoned him earlier and got my tracking number (confirmed on way) and he said that the part with a burnt leg was near the RAMDAC. From what he said I would strongly suspect it was one of the parts circled in red. In green are capacitors (those brown and shiny things, they're not resistors).
Does any one techy know what those 8 pin chips are likely to be? They could be multiplexers as he thinks but I wanted a second opinion. I would rather ID them without taking the board apart if I can
Any way, time to make it geeky. First I found this.
Note the C pins. I would imagine that there is no green being sent through DVI port 1.
Now onto the fun part
I phoned him earlier and got my tracking number (confirmed on way) and he said that the part with a burnt leg was near the RAMDAC. From what he said I would strongly suspect it was one of the parts circled in red. In green are capacitors (those brown and shiny things, they're not resistors).
Does any one techy know what those 8 pin chips are likely to be? They could be multiplexers as he thinks but I wanted a second opinion. I would rather ID them without taking the board apart if I can
alienware
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Riddle solved. Those chips are display drivers. They break when you send ESD into the DVI port. Thankfully they are seperate and driven independantly so that the working one will be perfect. Card came this morning as promised and as described. Well, apart from the fact it's the KO overclocked edition
Before
After
Furmark for 30 mins.
Job done then. Very very pleased and very happy
Before
After
Furmark for 30 mins.
Job done then. Very very pleased and very happy
alienware
Banned
I really didn't want to put this bit up yet because I have jumped the gun before and looked stupid
Today whilst spring cleaning (ripping the entire room to pieces and cleaning everything INC skirting boards and so on) I found the DVI-HDMI cable that came with my Hannspree monitor. I decided to test my theory on just the VGA line being damaged on port one. Here was the result.
Sorry it's a bit cut off it was impossible to get far enough away to get it all in without knocking the wall down
Then I removed the VGA monitor from port 2 and ran just the DVI-HDMI line into the Hannspree. Perfect colour.
So, I was right. It is indeed the VGA output on port one that is not working. The good part is that the GPU outputs DVI and it is converted to VGA right before the output for those of us with older monitors. It is on a completely seperate lane to the DVI. Even better, this part of the card should not effect the functionality of its gaming capabilities at all..
So, fingers crossed I just bagged myself an absolute bargain.
Also. I want to express my thanks for people's concern over this. It's quite nice when people give a crap.
Today whilst spring cleaning (ripping the entire room to pieces and cleaning everything INC skirting boards and so on) I found the DVI-HDMI cable that came with my Hannspree monitor. I decided to test my theory on just the VGA line being damaged on port one. Here was the result.
Sorry it's a bit cut off it was impossible to get far enough away to get it all in without knocking the wall down
Then I removed the VGA monitor from port 2 and ran just the DVI-HDMI line into the Hannspree. Perfect colour.
So, I was right. It is indeed the VGA output on port one that is not working. The good part is that the GPU outputs DVI and it is converted to VGA right before the output for those of us with older monitors. It is on a completely seperate lane to the DVI. Even better, this part of the card should not effect the functionality of its gaming capabilities at all..
So, fingers crossed I just bagged myself an absolute bargain.
Also. I want to express my thanks for people's concern over this. It's quite nice when people give a crap.
thestepster
New member
glad u scored a good one there mate! i just never take a leap of faith like that with tech cause more than likely ull end up on the end of a sour deal but you got a super lucky bargin
alienware
Banned
What's stupid is that the card is worth more in what it is and its weight than it is as a working gaming card.
The 8800u Superclocked KO edition was basically the equivalent of the Asus MARS and that Ares thing posted today. They made incredibly limited numbers and they were built differently. It has a whacking great ALU block across the top like the Ares.
New? that'll be $900 please.
What will really rocket the value of these (dead or not) would be if Nvidia went under. I recently watched an auction for a ltd ed sample of a Voodoo 6000 on Ebay U.S. Finishing price? $1680. The seller would not even confirm it working as it had been sat in a static bag for about ten years and he had no AGP.
The 8800u Superclocked KO edition was basically the equivalent of the Asus MARS and that Ares thing posted today. They made incredibly limited numbers and they were built differently. It has a whacking great ALU block across the top like the Ares.
New? that'll be $900 please.
What will really rocket the value of these (dead or not) would be if Nvidia went under. I recently watched an auction for a ltd ed sample of a Voodoo 6000 on Ebay U.S. Finishing price? $1680. The seller would not even confirm it working as it had been sat in a static bag for about ten years and he had no AGP.
Feels great when you bagsy a bargin
alienware
Banned
You know it bro Actually dude I just loosened a stool thinking it was buggered !! I KNEW I shouldn't have spoken too soon !
I was playing Fallout 3 earlier and I noticed that the screen was rolling when you were in certain light conditions.... Uh oh.... I took the computer apart figuring it was a ground loop and removed the stupid slot cooler. CAN NOT believe how noisy that dumb thing was !
Any way, put him all back together and no, the screen was still rolling (wasn't noticable 90% of the time but when you sat real close it gave me a headache). It was kind of a very faint ghosted line rolling over the picture. Any way, after a lot of head scratching I decided to get out a spare VGA cable I have left over from a dead Belinea and sure enough, perfect. Just sat with my face pressed to the thing and nothing.
I have a feeling that I damaged the flimsy Acer one when I routed it through the back of the book case the monitor sits on. It was most probably doing it before but of course, I'm on 'super para didn't get a bargain' watch so of course I only noticed it today
PHEW !
Actually dude I just loosened a stool thinking it was buggered !! I KNEW I shouldn't have spoken too soon !I was playing Fallout 3 earlier and I noticed that the screen was rolling when you were in certain light conditions.... Uh oh.... I took the computer apart figuring it was a ground loop and removed the stupid slot cooler. CAN NOT believe how noisy that dumb thing was !
Any way, put him all back together and no, the screen was still rolling (wasn't noticable 90% of the time but when you sat real close it gave me a headache). It was kind of a very faint ghosted line rolling over the picture. Any way, after a lot of head scratching I decided to get out a spare VGA cable I have left over from a dead Belinea and sure enough, perfect. Just sat with my face pressed to the thing and nothing.
I have a feeling that I damaged the flimsy Acer one when I routed it through the back of the book case the monitor sits on. It was most probably doing it before but of course, I'm on 'super para didn't get a bargain' watch so of course I only noticed it today
PHEW !
alienware
Banned
Man, amazing what a screwed VGA cable can do ! things look so much better now. I remember when I got my Hannspree I had them both running on this PC. The Acer always looked kind of brownish compared to this (which is very vibrant). I just put it down to the Acer being a bit rubbish. Must've been dodgy when I got it that cable !
thestepster
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just a sound card u could have got a few bob for :awhip:
alienware
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I've just got this nagging feeling the ram is screwed. It didn't look like it had been baked before and the fault with it wouldn't have needed it tbh. Mind you saying that it doesn't look like it's been baked now, either
Problem was when I put it back together (for the interim so I don't lose any small parts) I could clearly see daylight between the ram and the heatsink
I emailed him last night and pointed this out and he became quite sheepish and offered me a refund. I'm not sure what he means by that so I asked him to clarify, just waiting on his response now.
It was quite strange really. Fallout started crashing during Anchorage and tiny small red dots would appear, then go, then I would get a message saying my display driver had stopped working and recovered. Normally when I see artifacts they don't go until you reboot but this works fine right up until you stressed it then the same keeps happening. That's why I am concerned that the ram is busted
Problem was when I put it back together (for the interim so I don't lose any small parts) I could clearly see daylight between the ram and the heatsink
I emailed him last night and pointed this out and he became quite sheepish and offered me a refund. I'm not sure what he means by that so I asked him to clarify, just waiting on his response now.
It was quite strange really. Fallout started crashing during Anchorage and tiny small red dots would appear, then go, then I would get a message saying my display driver had stopped working and recovered. Normally when I see artifacts they don't go until you reboot but this works fine right up until you stressed it then the same keeps happening. That's why I am concerned that the ram is busted
alienware
Banned
Right apparently he says he will send me £75 via paypal. I have a sneaking suspicion that he knows I have figured out what he does and just wants to shut me up.
So, fingers crossed I shall be on the market for an 8800GTX which I can swap out the HSF for the ultra one which should keep it alive for ages. Thing is there are so many bloody bakerys on Ebay now where they're just selling cards they baked. And the success rates for baking are actually quite low for a long term fix. Makes it a bit of a git really
So, fingers crossed I shall be on the market for an 8800GTX which I can swap out the HSF for the ultra one which should keep it alive for ages. Thing is there are so many bloody bakerys on Ebay now where they're just selling cards they baked. And the success rates for baking are actually quite low for a long term fix. Makes it a bit of a git really
thestepster
New member
add a little but more onto that mate and get something like a gtx260 second hand 
alienware
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Nah, not going to spend any more. Have found a few 8800GTX on ebay and a 3870x2 Powercolour OC.
Need to do some swotting now on whether the 3870x2 is worthwhile. All it needs to do is run Fallout 3 on ultra with 2xfsaa and I'm sorted. Other than that it's DVD playback only..
Got the refund, just checked
Need to do some swotting now on whether the 3870x2 is worthwhile. All it needs to do is run Fallout 3 on ultra with 2xfsaa and I'm sorted. Other than that it's DVD playback only..
Got the refund, just checked
