x2 5000+ - Any drivers needed?

[AvengerUK]

Hey,

another question from myself! - i usually do stuff wrong on a build - so i thought id double check everything first!

With my old 4000+ single core, i used to install the AMD drivers. I can see that the X2 also has *similiar* drivers, along with the "X2 Dual core optimizer".

are the drivers needed/recommended? - and what does this dual core optimizer do, or is it best left alone!

Thanks!...again

 

[Ham]

Well the hammer drivers were needed for single core. But Afaik you dont need them for the dual cores.

May be wrong though.

 

[llwyd]

just make sure your chipset drivers and BIOS are up to date and install the dual core patch (we have a guide in our articles section)

On a similar note, I have heard rumors of a patch for C2D optimization....

 

[Rastalovich]

Yeah be sure to install the AMD x2 drivers and optimizing stuff, particularly in the correct order (as they demonstrate), otherwize u tend to get some weird results.

I don`t think u get weird results if u don`t install them - but u obviously then don`t get the benefits as they stand.

 

[AvengerUK]

Yeah be sure to install the AMD x2 drivers and optimizing stuff, particularly in the correct order (as they demonstrate), otherwize u tend to get some weird results.

I don`t think u get weird results if u don`t install them - but u obviously then don`t get the benefits as they stand.

Who demonstrates the correct order?!

(and where is this guide? ive looked but yet to find!)

 

[llwyd]

here

 

[AvengerUK]

Thanks alot guys

Note: should i just install the hotfix, or leave it and install if i come to a problem?

Thats my last question lol!

 

[FarFarAway]

I installed it anyway. Anything to make stuff faster...

 

[AvengerUK]

Installed it, and edited registry

However, according the microsoft support entry, the reg editing disables something, where as your article is on about enableing?!

 

[AvengerUK]

Err, guys...

Note This solution favors performance gains over power savings. Although benchmark performance scores may improve, battery life could be negatively affected. Therefore, this kernel policy change must be enabled in the registry to allow for maximum flexibility.Enable the new performance state policy behavior

After you install the hotfix that is described in this article, follow these steps to enable the new performance state policy behavior:

1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit in the Open box, and then click OK.

2. Right-click HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager, point to New, and then click Key.

3. Type Throttle for the new key name.

4. Right-click Throttle, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.

5. Type PerfEnablePackageIdle for the value name.

6. Right-click PerfEnablePackageIdle, and then click Modify.

7. In the Edit DWORD Value box, type 1. In the Value data box, make sure that Hexadecimal is selected, and then click OK.

8. Quit Registry Editor.

So, if we want max performance on a desktop...we set the DWORD value to 0, not 1 surely? (or delete it - same effect) ???

 

[FarFarAway]

Sod enabling throttling.

No way would you see my PC clocking down for no reason

 

[AvengerUK]

Sod enabling throttling.

No way would you see my PC clocking down for no reason

Thats my point, the article here tells you do enable it!, without telling you that its only to be enabled if you wish to save power.

(wouldnt it be an idea to edit the article and include the reason!)

Anyway, so to DISABLE throttling....which i obviously dont want ^^, i should set to...0 right? or delete...?

 

[FarFarAway]

You're disabling thermal throttling basically with my patch afaik

 

[AvengerUK]

"You're disabling thermal throttling basically with my patch afaik"

The hotfix = microsofts patch renamed and rehosted..?

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Well, yes...and no....the reg editing in the article is actually written wrongly in a sense, if you read the microsoft article / AMDzone's article carefully, it states that to put the DWORD value to 1 enables "Power saving" abilities...which is basically throttleing?!

(Sorry if ive got the wrong end of the stick...but i think im right so far !)

 

[FarFarAway]

It doesn't throttle it as such, but let's Windows see the full power of the processor:

This hotfix includes changes to the kernel power manager to track CPU use across the processor package. These changes enable visibility into the true activity level of a CPU complex and therefore help correctly calculate an increased target performance state.

Yes you can disable this using "0", but then you may as well not bother

 

[Rastalovich]

Kemp - isn`t it the case that this would make the power saving thingy just correctly available - if and how u used it would be another thing.

 

[FarFarAway]

Well I spose it makes it available, but it doesn't enable thermal throttling, it sets it for power use with no throttling.

This is afaik, but hey I could be wrong.

Whatever happens this guide works and has solved most people's problems with games and dual core

 

[AvengerUK]

It doesn't throttle it as such, but let's Windows see the full power of the processor:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Microsoft

This hotfix includes changes to the kernel power manager to track CPU use across the processor package. These changes enable visibility into the true activity level of a CPU complex and therefore help correctly calculate an increased target performance state.

Yes you can disable this using "0", but then you may as well not bother

Ah, so basically the value "1" enables the kernel power manager?

thanks for clearing that up - ill leave it at 1 for now!

 

[Pyr0]

no need for the patch/hotfix, just install the drivers and the dual core optimiser - job done

 

[AvengerUK]

Meh, its done now anyway - All is working well aswell!