X-Bit - Intel to sell Broadwell soldered to the motherboard!

If this is true and INtel begins to sell only mobo/cpu in one unit, I would foresee every mobo manufacturer on the planet filing lawsuits for unfair business practices. Asus, MSI, etc etc are already forced to buy the chipsets from Intel and they arent cheap. To have to pay for CPU's too would pretty much kill those companies.

In a way I could understand it though, because Intel has a very hard time selling what most of the public percieves (and perhaps not incorrectly) as crummy motherboards. I know when I've been looking at the feature sets for this build I'm planning, Intel boards have been the last on my list. They seem to want more money and have fewer features than the leading namebrands (MSI, Asus etc)
Why would anyone want to pay more for an inferior product?

It might not be a bad idea to buy an extra cpu and mobo now because stocks wont last forever, just in case they pull something funky on us.

This could also be good for AMD. They might be the only game in town that offers options. This could be the gimmick they need to get back into the desktop game.
 
I hope that those comments were right and Broadwell will be OEM and tablets and such and the 2014 processors will be refreshed Haswell chips. That should mean you can use the 2nd generation, 2014 Haswell chips in your 2013 motherboard. That would be nice if that's the case. I plan on jumping ship to Intel with Haswell and it'll be nice if I can upgrade in 2014 without have to buy a new mobo as well.
 
Has anyone done a google translate on the article? From my reading of that it does say that Broadwell will not be available to desktop computers (apart from all in ones), but that LGA isn't over.

The article goes on to speculate that possibly in the future we might have to buy motherboards with CPUs attached, but I don't think that is any more than a journalist's idle speculation. I will wait for someone competent to translate the article, rather than google translate before decrying the end of the enthusiast market etc.
 
Yar. I have difficulty seeing Intel going to strictly mobo/cpu combos. Just the threads on this site sell a heck of a lot of cpu's for them. Throw in another 10,000 enthusiast sites and thats a heap of hardware that get promoted for Intel - for free. They can afford to throw Tom a free 3970X because he helps promote potentially millions of dollars of revenue, and I cant see Intel alienating a huge enthusiast market.

I first started looking at Intel at the recommendation of friends, as AMD has always been more economical. I found Toms clips after I had decided it was time to upgrade. He sold me on IB. The 8350 review pretty much cliched it: time to be an Intel convert. AMD has gone to the dogs.

All in all I guess Tom does get a Commision of sorts: free stuff like the latest and greatest CPU's :) lucky...... (expletive deleted) :D
 
Google Translate did a very poor job. It was virtually unreadable. From my limited knowledge of Japanese, I could tell that they cited "sources close to Intel" which always should mean complete rumor. I was also able to get multiple references to portable devices so even if they do use BGA, it's use may be restricted to certain form factors.

PS: My Japanese is probably at about a 1st grade level so don't ask me to translate the whole thing cause that will take awhile...
 
My first reaction was that it would mean Intel could hold the board makers basically hostage. Since theyll be the only game in town, they can dictate pretty much whatever they want. If for example MSI doesnt like some of Intel's terms, what choice do they have? AMD is apparently bowing out of the desktop CPU market so MSI will have no choice but to bend over and grab the ankles and take whatever Intel wants to give them.

:rollinglaugh::rollinglaugh:

But as others have said, this i probably only for mobile devices and pre-built PC's i.e. lenovo, dell etc.
 
I know its wikipedia, but the entry for Broadwell mentions a "multi-chip module" with several bits of silicon on one die. Maybe the "soldered to the motherboard" rumour is a mistranslation of "soldered to a PCB", and it'll actually be something like the old PentiumII "atari cartridge" style CPUs.
 
For all the yuppies who think no competition is a great idea just look at the market 15-20 years plenty of competition in those days, The SNES had a 7mhz processor.. Believe it or not but that was a powerful chip for its time. Now move onto there next platform the N64 that had 94mhz 64bit processor... That's at least 14 times more powerful over a FIVE year period. Now lets move onto 2012 where the competition is thin with only 2 brands running the show and looking like it will soon become a complete monopoly.. PS3 Cell Processor 3.2ghz 7 threads and the soon to come PS4 AMD a10 5800k...

How sad is that? That's bareeely an improvement at ALL and this was a SEVEN year generation gap LOL!
 
I would have thought that the experiences with XBox 360 and PS3 as well as laptop graphics cards would have taught any hardware manufacture that anything that gets hot such as GPUs/CPUs, lead-free solder and BGAs are a bad idea.
 
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