Wireless networking

name='gorby' said:
m8 do you want to msn me tonight ill have a go at it?

That's great , send me a PM with yr details - I dont use it much myself, so might hop on my sons account. Hoping to last the course til then, only had 3 1/2 hrs sleep AGAIN :o

sw
 
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name='gorby' said:
m8 do you want to msn me tonight ill have a go at it?
Right, gorby, sussed it - the PC was ill and has been put down! Networking works on this NEW NEW rig, but too tired to read about sharing and WEP. Thanks for yr help m8! :)

sw
 
I've a PhD in uselessness today!

Ain't computers great? I got all 3 working PCs all able to access internet, but none of them seem to notice the shared folders on the other PCs. Come to that they dont notice the other pcs, sys3 sees the router and the named net,sys1 sees the internet only,sys4 I've misplaced the blinkin blonkin network card :(

Any ideas, ive waded thru "Linksys Networks: The Official Guide" for hours and it hasnt helped - can you?

sw
 
turn dhcp off on the router and give everything on your network a static IP adress starting from 192.168.0.1 onwards. On each client give the dns adress and the gateway adress as the internal ip of the router... Try that and then see what can ping what with both IP's and then DNS names.
 
name='gorby' said:
turn dhcp off on the router and give everything on your network a static IP adress starting from 192.168.0.1 onwards. On each client give the dns adress and the gateway adress as the internal ip of the router... Try that and then see what can ping what with both IP's and then DNS names.
I'll try , dont know what some of what youre on about

sw
 
Making progress, ashamed to admit I used the Microsoft Network Wizard and it worked. I am now contemplating entering a silent order of monks on the Faeroes

sw
 
Standing,

whats happened is the wizard has set all of the IP's on all machines to the same range. and made sure that the workgroup is consistent. While this will ensure that all of the computers can talk to each other correctly it might mean that internet functionality is dropped. Just make sure that each client has the gateway and dns adress's as the IP of the router and you will be fine.

As a moot point, imo dhcp is a bad way to go for a small home network. Allocating different static address’s for all of your clients will make it much easier to set specific firewall rules on your router and also to govern port forwarding for stuff like hosting games without a dmz.

-gorby
 
gorby said:
Standing,

whats happened is the wizard has set all of the IP's on all machines to the same range. and made sure that the workgroup is consistent. While this will ensure that all of the computers can talk to each other correctly it might mean that internet functionality is dropped. Just make sure that each client has the gateway and dns adress's as the IP of the router and you will be fine.

As a moot point, imo dhcp is a bad way to go for a small home network. Allocating different static address’s for all of your clients will make it much easier to set specific firewall rules on your router and also to govern port forwarding for stuff like hosting games without a dmz.

-gorby
wheres the 'G' come from!! You're right m8, its the dumbest way and it probably aint the best for setting firewalls, but I always reckon 'if it ain't broke, keep "tweakin" '

Cheers

sw
 
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Oh boy, what a nightmare! Managed to lose internet from all 3 PCs, though network DID work! Then mislaid Router CD, couldn't see it in IE using its address. Now running without router in circuit. Wot a clot

sw
 
I reckon most of problems i've had are cos I used Win XP to set everything up. Just reset Router, installed wireless nwk on 3 machines and got network and internet on all 3 inside 20 minutes using Linksys software. Back to doing something less productive......

sw
 
standin wave said:
Oh boy, what a nightmare! Managed to lose internet from all 3 PCs, though network DID work! Then mislaid Router CD, couldn't see it in IE using its address. Now running without router in circuit. Wot a clot

sw
Like I said hey :)

All thats happening is windows is setting the machines IP's out of range of the gateway of the router. So the pc's can talk to each other beacuse the router works like a switch but they wont talk to the router.

Want to raise a support call? :D

By useing the linksys disk, it is setting the ips of your machines inside that same range as the dhcp server on the router
 
gorby said:
Like I said hey :)

All thats happening is windows is setting the machines IP's out of range of the gateway of the router. So the pc's can talk to each other beacuse the router works like a switch but they wont talk to the router.

Want to raise a support call? :D

By useing the linksys disk, it is setting the ips of your machines inside that same range as the dhcp server on the router
Thanks for the translation m8. The trouble with the XP stuff is its not as focussed on setting up everything right - what use is networking and sharing files if every machine loses the net?

Anyway, I thought everyone had gone to sleep today - must be all the XS heat chucked out by those prommies:D

sw
 
Im bloomin dreading redoing mine now :(

what I did..

Install hardware, run setup from disks, reboot router & all pc's

right click on drives to be shared & select share..

Im sure there was some ms network wizard in there somewere, no doubt I will find out this weekend..
 
mcmad said:
Im bloomin dreading redoing mine now :(

what I did..

Install hardware, run setup from disks, reboot router & all pc's

right click on drives to be shared & select share..

Im sure there was some ms network wizard in there somewere, no doubt I will find out this weekend..
hey, I sorted it all out in 20 minutes - did hard reset on Router and just started again. There's not much I can do in 20 minutes - just ask 'our lass':o

sw
 
mcmad said:
Im bloomin dreading redoing mine now :(

what I did..

Install hardware, run setup from disks, reboot router & all pc's

right click on drives to be shared & select share..

Im sure there was some ms network wizard in there somewere, no doubt I will find out this weekend..

Dont bother with the wizard man It doesnt know about your router / modem only the other computers on your network
 
Short on power!

mcmad said:
I would also suggest an access point somewhere in the middle of the area to ensure good signal strength Linksys WAP54G Wireless-G Access Point (you can try without this & get it if signal strenth is low, set this to repeat in menu as far as I can remember).
mcmad you were right - my castle walls are obviously too thick for 2.4 GHz to penetrate and I've ordered a WAP54G to remedy the situation. £51.69 + P&P from ebuyer. Tried reflectors and twiddling the aerials - but, as I walked from one end of the Great Hall to the other, the signal strength just died. btw I really live in a shoebox near Bradford!

sw
 
mcmad said:
k m8, this is what Id recommend

Linksys WRT54G Wireless-G Broadband Router/4-Port Switch (from cable modem to router , I assume cable modem has network connector RJ 45, so wire modem into wireless router).

Linksys WMP54G Wireless-G PCI Adapter for sys 1 & 2 (although sys 1 can also be hard wired into router if its close enough, router has 4 wired ports).

Linksys Wireless Printer Server - usefull if you dont want to have a PC switched on to use the printer, will appear on network all the time.

Linksys WPC54G Wireless-G Notebook Adapter for laptop (depends on laptop exactly what card).

I would also suggest an access point somewhere in the middle of the area to ensure good signal strength Linksys WAP54G Wireless-G Access Point (you can try without this & get it if signal strenth is low, set this to repeat in menu as far as I can remember).
OK I've now got the WAP54G, but nowhere can I see anything about actually USING it standalone (i.e. just plugged into the mains power AND NOTHING ELSE) - even if it requires setting up connected to a PC, nor this 'repeat' function.The User Guide reads to me as though it permanently needs to be connected to a wired network :confused: Any comments anyone?

sw
 
mcmad said:
k m8, this is what Id recommend

Linksys Wireless Printer Server - usefull if you dont want to have a PC switched on to use the printer, will appear on network all the time.
MCmad you don’t necessarily need one of these. As long as your printer has a NIC inside then u can just hardwire it to your router or access point...

Im obviously not hitting the right notes with you standin but here goes anyway :)

As long as the access points are all in the same IP scheme and have the same security settings then you will be fine...

Get one computer hard wired into the new access point and ensure that these settings are the same as on your router:

Security system ( open, shared or not at all)

Wireless session identifier (or wireless network name)

frequency operating range

Wireless transmit speed and or protocol ( 802.11b etc)

heres the most crucial scratched record bit :)....

In the same IP range as the routter and clients...

ie: if original router was 192.168.0.1

clinet dhcp range = 192.168.*.*

new access point must be within the dhcp range!!!!!!
 
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