Those little annoying F@H things ..
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mihapiha
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There are a lot of crappy big WUs lately. I keep getting the P8101 to fold. I really didn't expect that. I don't know whether I can even crack 3 million points in the week if this continues. Far away from the 4.6 I already once made with this system...
Odd that the diffences can be so huge...
Odd that the diffences can be so huge...
sheroo
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What are you using to monitor all those PC's? HFM can be set up to email you if a machine crashes.
sheroo
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You only need to run hfm on one machine. On each of your folding rigs you share the folding work folder(s) - so that they can be seen over the network.
The pc with hfm installed is then set up to look at each of these work folder shares, and monitors their progress. The PPD estimates are pretty accurate.
You can then configure hfm to send an email alert if one of your rigs "enters a hung state". You don't need to have email set up on the monitoring machine - it just needs access to the internet and the network shares you've set up.
You can also configure hfm to generate a web page by ftp'ing data to a webspace. This is mine http://www.sheroofolding.webspace.virginmedia.com/summary.html
If you need help with the config let me know.
The pc with hfm installed is then set up to look at each of these work folder shares, and monitors their progress. The PPD estimates are pretty accurate.
You can then configure hfm to send an email alert if one of your rigs "enters a hung state". You don't need to have email set up on the monitoring machine - it just needs access to the internet and the network shares you've set up.
You can also configure hfm to generate a web page by ftp'ing data to a webspace. This is mine http://www.sheroofolding.webspace.virginmedia.com/summary.html
If you need help with the config let me know.
Kei
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I've got an odd one that i noticed the other evening.
If i switch my screens off and leaving it folding, the computer will lock up or blue screen within 2-3 hours. (went to work at 1:30 came home to find it had blue screened at 3:30 and i left it folding the other evening after going to bed around 12 only to find next morning that it had frozen at 1:30) If i leave a screen on, it folds fine for however long i leave it. (tested it today and it's been going solid since 9am without a hitch) It might be the new 780 as i don't remember this problem occurring back on the 6970.
If i switch my screens off and leaving it folding, the computer will lock up or blue screen within 2-3 hours. (went to work at 1:30 came home to find it had blue screened at 3:30 and i left it folding the other evening after going to bed around 12 only to find next morning that it had frozen at 1:30) If i leave a screen on, it folds fine for however long i leave it. (tested it today and it's been going solid since 9am without a hitch) It might be the new 780 as i don't remember this problem occurring back on the 6970.
mihapiha
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Unfortunately, I am not a 24/7 folder like some people. I cannot maintain the folding@home habit for too long at the time. I get bored and try to find something else pretty quickly. That's why I have never cracked high ranks but contributed a few million points for a few teams. After a few weeks or months I'm bored and I choose to find a new purpose for my folding farm...
In this case my folding farm has been steadily folding for this team since approximately mid August. I'm debating therefor whether I should do something new...
The contribution to this team has been quite large over the last year. So I guess it could happen that I turn off my folding farm for a few weeks. I have yet to find something to do with it, but just to be clear: It costs me roughly 80 Euro a month to maintain this folding farm per month because of the electricity it consumes. It being off does make things easier for me already.
Also I have problems finding a buyer for the folding farm. I have not been successful selling it since April, and I'm now down to 1500 Euro. Since it doesn't seem it will sell even for this amount of money I might turn it back on some day, but for now I will start searching for a new purpose.
In this case my folding farm has been steadily folding for this team since approximately mid August. I'm debating therefor whether I should do something new...
The contribution to this team has been quite large over the last year. So I guess it could happen that I turn off my folding farm for a few weeks. I have yet to find something to do with it, but just to be clear: It costs me roughly 80 Euro a month to maintain this folding farm per month because of the electricity it consumes. It being off does make things easier for me already.
Also I have problems finding a buyer for the folding farm. I have not been successful selling it since April, and I'm now down to 1500 Euro. Since it doesn't seem it will sell even for this amount of money I might turn it back on some day, but for now I will start searching for a new purpose.
If the the folding cost is not totaly prohibitive I'd just let it run and continue your great contribution to the Team and F@H
If it makes you feel any better, I just threw away four GTX 460s, two GTX 560TIs, two GTX 480s, and a 1366 mobo that I purchased at their prime cost and folded on for a few years.
Times and hardware change and Stanfords direction changes, so the greatest hardware over time becomes less valuable and then obsolete. I've been seriously chasing this (F@H) for 5 or 6 years since I quit compeitive benching.
If you want to compete at the upper level for F@H you must consider the cost involved and make purchase decisions accordingly.
Set a goal for your desired F@H achivements and strive for that.
My goal is in sight but I may not achieve it before I have to pull back at bit.
I know none of this helps with the electric bills or hardware costs, but maybe helps put into perspective what the costs are for excellence and contribution to the science. The decision is yours and I do hope you choose to stay with us and the cause.
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mihapiha
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It's not the fact that the server lost value which surprises me. It's the fact that it did so in such a short amount of time. I invested nearly 4k into my folding farm, which was listed in Europe for 8k. Only the fact that I got the CPUs new (which are no ES CPUs by the way) super cheap from the US made it possible to afford the system.
I build it primarily because the opportunity presented itself. I figured I'd loose a little money, but I also knew I wouldn't keep the server too long. I figured since most hardware sells for 50% what it's listed after a year I thought I might get away with 3k... I never expected it being such a tough sale and even 6 months later to be no buyer for it. I primarily wanted to see what AMD could do on a big scale and while I'm at it, I'd fold.
If I had been using the bloody thing for years and it had an outdated socket or chipset I'd understand it loosing value much quicker. The odd thing is, that this is still pretty much the ultimate 4P AMD based platform - especially for F@H - yet it lost substantial value within one year. I'm at a point were I'd actually sell it for 1k just to get rid of it. I probably would get the 1k if I pull it apart, but then I get stuck with the MB and two other things which I won't sell for ages.
So think about it: Officially listed at 8000 and within a year you can't get rid of it for 1500. This is even pretty crazy for computer standards...
In terms of F@H: I had contributed about 30 million points with several systems over a period of roughly 2 or 3 years before the server. Now this server crunched an impressive 150 million within the last year (a little over 80 million for this team), and I turned it off over the summer. The folding contribution therefore far exceeds my expectations or how much I even wanted to contribute.
This server makes it quite ridiculous to get 5, 10 or 20 million points which are usually such massive landmarks.
The server will continue folding for a while. How long it will be I don't know. Could be that I find something tomorrow, could be in a month. But I just wanted to let the team know that my PPD from this point on are something short term, and that I will be looking for an alternative...
I build it primarily because the opportunity presented itself. I figured I'd loose a little money, but I also knew I wouldn't keep the server too long. I figured since most hardware sells for 50% what it's listed after a year I thought I might get away with 3k... I never expected it being such a tough sale and even 6 months later to be no buyer for it. I primarily wanted to see what AMD could do on a big scale and while I'm at it, I'd fold.
If I had been using the bloody thing for years and it had an outdated socket or chipset I'd understand it loosing value much quicker. The odd thing is, that this is still pretty much the ultimate 4P AMD based platform - especially for F@H - yet it lost substantial value within one year. I'm at a point were I'd actually sell it for 1k just to get rid of it. I probably would get the 1k if I pull it apart, but then I get stuck with the MB and two other things which I won't sell for ages.
So think about it: Officially listed at 8000 and within a year you can't get rid of it for 1500. This is even pretty crazy for computer standards...
In terms of F@H: I had contributed about 30 million points with several systems over a period of roughly 2 or 3 years before the server. Now this server crunched an impressive 150 million within the last year (a little over 80 million for this team), and I turned it off over the summer. The folding contribution therefore far exceeds my expectations or how much I even wanted to contribute.
This server makes it quite ridiculous to get 5, 10 or 20 million points which are usually such massive landmarks.
The server will continue folding for a while. How long it will be I don't know. Could be that I find something tomorrow, could be in a month. But I just wanted to let the team know that my PPD from this point on are something short term, and that I will be looking for an alternative...
Ouch, that does suck horribly. A server like that is pretty niche though, most people picking up that sort of kit would want warranty/support unless you could sell it to someone that is a hobbyist of course. Good luck with trying to sell it!
Thanks so much for the contribution you have made to our team and the F@H project and I hope we still see you around even when you aren't an active folder.
Be very sad to see you go dude - we really do appreciate those epic points.
Its a shame I was hoping to have a rig to scare you with too
mihapiha
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It still has like 11 months of warranty because I bought it brand new a year ago. It is a niche product indeed, but I figured I would find a folder who wanted to upgrade. Keep in mind I get nearly 1000 PPD per Watt which is still very very good. I thought with my PPD results and a low enough price someone would want to update their Folding farm to this. Right now the price is so low it costs basically as much as a new folding farm which would produce maybe half the PPD...
It seems F@H has gone down in popularity, and I just assumed because I do something quite a few other people do it as well...
I will see what happens though. Maybe I get lucky and I finally can get rid of this thing and finish my gaming rig...
mihapiha
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Guess I was right on time.
A potential buyer asked me to run Simap@Home. I don't know whether it's merely curiosity or if they will actually buy. But I turned off F@H and I'm now running BIONIC for the very first time.
In Windows to top it off, because I didn't know how to install BIONIC in Ubuntu 10.10.
As things look now I probably won't fold anymore for at least this weekend. Too bad actually I was looking forward on having my name twice in the top 1000 contributors.
A potential buyer asked me to run Simap@Home. I don't know whether it's merely curiosity or if they will actually buy. But I turned off F@H and I'm now running BIONIC for the very first time.
In Windows to top it off, because I didn't know how to install BIONIC in Ubuntu 10.10.
As things look now I probably won't fold anymore for at least this weekend. Too bad actually I was looking forward on having my name twice in the top 1000 contributors.
always love when i look at the 760 folding and see these kind of numbers!
it was only a little while ago that card was breaking past 100k ppd.....now usually hovers aroun 22 - 25k, but sometimes like today it drops down below 10k
whats funny, when i get the same wu's on my 560ti, it gets better numbers lol
it was only a little while ago that card was breaking past 100k ppd.....now usually hovers aroun 22 - 25k, but sometimes like today it drops down below 10k
whats funny, when i get the same wu's on my 560ti, it gets better numbers lol
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