Project - Tuxedo

[robbiec]

Project - Tuxedo - {Completed}

Having read Tom's article this afternoon and paying a visit to OCUK, I am now awaiting delivery of a Ryzen 9 and a Lian-Li PC0-11 Dynamic (as i'm in Ireland, it will probably be Friday

Out goes the Phanteks Enthoo Primo
Out goes the Ryzen 2700+

In comes the Lian-Li PC0-11 Dynamic
In comes the Ryzen 9 3900X

Staying will be the following:
Asus Crosshair Vii Hero Wi-Fi (X470)
AMD Vega VII with EK FC Block
GSkill TridentZ 2 x 8GB 3200 C14s (which run nicely at 3333 C14)
2 x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500 GB
2 x Toshiba X300 4TB
Aquacomputer D5 Next
Aquacomputer Aquaero 6LT
Aquacomputer HUBBY7 USB Hub
Aquacomputer Quadro Fan controller
2 x Aquacomputer Splitty4s
XSPC RX360 V2

Undecided on the following just yet:
EKWB Velocity CPU Block
Noiseblocker PL2 fans (have 13 of the little buggers around the place)

I'm looking at the Aquacomputer cuplex kryos NEXT VARIO with VISION block in place of the Velocity as it has not impressed me in any way thermally. I think this is due to the mounting system which should integrate with the backplate of the Crosshair but does not.
Ref the Noiseblockers, great fans but mine are pretty old now so may need a refresh.

Build to be completed within 1 month.

 

[Dicehunter]

Should be a nice build

 

[AlienALX]

Yup lots of luvverly water cooling too.

 

[robbiec]

3900X shipped today. Been playing with my TridentZ and it seems happy running all 14s upto 3466 with the 2406 bios (AGESA 1.0.0.2 Combo AM4) . If I ease off a little then 3600 doable. The R9 might improve this.

So this will be my home rig. I'm going to twist a couple of arms in work and get hold of the ASUS WS-X570 ACE and get another 3900X, 32GB of Samsung Bs, a couple of TB in NVMe and a VEGA VII. Then it's finding out out if VMware Esxi like the onboard Intel nic or not and pulling stunts to getting VGA pass through to work. Wrap it up in a smallish Fractal with a Seasonic Prime 850ish and you have a nice Edge compute unit for a bit of Cognitive services, image recognition and some machine learning opposite Edge demographics.

 

[robbiec]

3900X arrived this morning. Lian-li is still in Dublin. I'll run some last benches on the 2700X as a before and after.

I'm really learning towards the AC CPU block with the Vario mount, reason being I think it will work well once I understand where the chiplets sit physically. Plus I've gone off EK with the radiator dramas and the underwhelming mount of the current EK block.

 

[AlienALX]

Pics or it didn't happen.

 

[robbiec]

, it hasn't happened. Waiting on Lian-li arriving tomorrow. Have a pic of the 3900 though?

 

[AlienALX]

Noice!

 

[robbiec]

Transferred to the Lian-li. Booted OK. Back to bios, changed to DOCP settings and now constant C5 errors. Battery out for a couple of hours. This is on the latest Crosshair Vii bios (2406), fingers crossed the Ryzen isn't fried.

So its not fried but wow is it picky about ram timings - manual TridentZ, set speed to 3200, 14, 14, 14, 28 with 1.4V and a straight C5 on next boot.

 

[robbiec]

Old:



Hmm, noice



New:

 

[AlienALX]

Wicked !

 

[hmmblah]

Very nice! How are you liking the 3900X so far?

 

[robbiec]

3900X and me barely know each other. I've booted into the desktop 2 times, once with RAM at 2133, then with Ram at 3200 c22, any time I try C14 I get a hard C5 error on boot and then it's a case of switching off, letting it lose any juice in capacitors and forcing into safe mode.

I just need to get my head around this ones quirks

 

[robbiec]

Notes on today's build. I've only been able to use 1 fat rad, anything over 45mm won't fit top or bottom. I'll probably get a couple of skinny 240s to pad out the cooling a bit. Fat 360 on the side, slim one's top and bottom. Or a slim 360 on top exhausting and keep the bottom free for a horizontal res with a couple of fans sucking air in.

Compared to the Phanteks, the Lian-Li even at half the price is in a different class build quality wise. No sharp edges, no screw issues, hhd mounts are a different league.

I've kept the EK Velocity in while I order the AquaComputer block for the CPU. The mounting screws are a mm too thick for the original backplate so I had to use an older one and I'm not absolutely sure it has enough pressure. Idle is varying from 36C to 42C probably an ambient delta of 10C to 12C. Loaded and it goes off the charts.

I jimmyd together a drain using bits and bobs which works well but is too bulky, needs a redesign as does the loop on general, but this was thrown together just to see

Ref the fans pulling in from the side, I will probably make up 3 shrouds to get closer to the side vents.

 

[robbiec]

Been doing a bit of bios research and have it booting reliably.
Core @1.375,
SOC @1.250,
Ram @1.4.

Cpu will boost to max of 4566 during Firestrike and I'm trying to get into the 15s at 3600DDR4. I'll set Fabric to 1/2 ram speed so in this case 1800. However the following IS stable so coming along OK. I want to get into the 55K range really though.

Temps are nudging 70C to 72C according to HWInfo under PcMark Extended but I need more rads!

 

[Dicehunter]

Very nice, How are you finding performance so far or are you still in the early testing stages ?

 

[robbiec]

Bit too early yet as almost every boot is a bios tweak. Seems lively enough

 

[robbiec]

A few more results:

NVMe is where it should be:



PCMark 10 definitely likes Ryzen 9





and it managed to boost to over 4600 :O


+ I've noticed that I've plumbed in the EK Velocity the wrong way. I've a few bits on order to tidy up the plumbing and I've another rad on the way. I'm thinking another slimmish 240 on the top, keep the bottom free for the Aquaero which has yet to find a home.

 

[robbiec]

New bios out for the Crosshair Vii, fixes the mouse issue in the Bios. DOCP working again too. Seems to have eased off a bit on mem throughput but have not seen a C5 error yet.

Edit, rock solid all day being stressed with Aida64, Pcmark, Sisoft Sandra titanium with 3466 C14s, fabric at 1733, voltage as 1.4-cpu, 1.25-soc and mem @1.4

 

[robbiec]

Another strip down commenced. I cancelled some orders once I had a chat with myself and got a grip on mindless expenditure.

I managed to fit 2 x 60mm thick rads in the Dynamic, the 360 is primary push / pull on the side with a Mayhems 240 in push on the top. I've also cleared the bottom deck for the Aquareo install further down the line.

Some pics...

240/60 rad with fans has about 0.25cm clearance from the top of the board making the EATX 12V cable routing interesting. You would not do it with a braided setup.



The XSPC RX 360/60 and Mayhems 240/60 are basically flush with each other.





Which allowed me to come with an interesting parts bin raid to hook up



Loop is as follows:

Pump to GPU to CPU to 240/60 rad to 360/60 rad to Pump / Res with drain coming off return pipe.



Pump Out, In & Drain solution:



GPU to CPU:



CPU to Rad 240/60





Some Bokeh for giggles



Tidied up the parts bin from the last few builds