Noob to Watercooling not sure if temps are ok :)

[Scia]

Hello!
I was wondering if I could ask a quick question:
I just set up my first watercooling loop in my Xigmatec Elysium.

Alphacool Monsta 360x80mm Front [Push / Pull Phobya G Silent Intake]
Phobya G-Charger 360x60mm Roof [Push Phobya G Silent Exhaust]
Phobya UC-2LT CPU block
Alphacool D5 665 with Alphacool HF D5 TOP block [Pump currently running at max [5] ]
Masterkleer 1/2" ID Tubing
Mayhem Pastel Grapered Coolant
Phobya He-Grease Extreme


Now, the loop is cooling my 2500k @ 1.32V @ 4.5ghz. [I know it's too much rads, GPUs will follow once new AMD are here ]
Now, I had the pump running 2days straight for leakchecking, and got out most of the air, as it seemed.
I hear some splashing noises from the Monsta Rad, probably some air I can't get out... QQ

Now, my temps in Prime95 large ffts, after 30mins, are

Core 0 max 63°C -> Delta 39°C
Core 1 max 69°C -> Delta 45°C
Core 2 max 69°C -> Delta 45°C
Core 3 max 65°C -> Delta 41°C

Ambient 24°C at measuring these temps.
Non-OC at stock voltage I get 49-51°C / Core same run in Prime

Idle:
Ambient 25°C
30/28/28/28

Temps measured with RealTempGT [HWmonitor is +/-1°C the same temps]

Are these Temps too high? Or have I had too much expectations in my loop?
[I know I cannot get 30°C non-stop not that overkill expectations had]
The pump is running on max atm, this should actually be better than having it on something like 3 shouldn't it?
And how can I get the air [which I guess must be in the front rad] out of it? Shaking, shifting and so on helped some but still some trapped.


Pic of the loop [yes I like hose ]

Bottom of Res -> Pump -> Roof Rad -> CPU -> Front Rad -> Res...

Any Suggestions?

 

[airdeano]

your temperatures are fair. if the 1.32vcore is the best it can do, then it'll have to
do, for now. but for the stock, thats pretty warm.
two things would be to check are the mounting of the CPU block and TIM pattern and
re-verify your temperatures with maybe the mobo utility.
what fan and fan speed?
you might have to up end the rads to bleed all the air out, maybe pitch the case on its
side, just watch that the pump doesn't cavatate or suck in an air bubble. dual rad will
hold the heat threshold longer, id be curious, are the temps stabilized just after 30min
of load? or do they still climb?

airdeano

 

[Finch]

Temps and Vcore seem high to me if its just a 2500k running off those 2 huge radiators. What fans at what RPM are you running. Like airdeano said might be worth checking your water block is mounted properly and there's no air in the loop.

 

[Scia]

The fans are Phobya g Silent 1500rpm, running at approx that speed [using these fan spreader plates that come with the elysium, for the two multi-fan cables I'm using in the back.]

I just opened the the [now top] locks of the radiator, the one going back into the res had air in it. I turned the pump on really quick until a few drops came out and sealed it again, same noise still... lil less tho ^^ And as it seems the temps dropped slightly, but I guess I'll have to lay it flat and check the CPU block and the TIM, I might have not put enough on it, was afraid I would over do it, and this time, I'll just put on a pea-sized bit in the middle, or some cross or something and let the block flatten it instead of spreading it with a card, or any suggestion how it works best? [TIM has always been my nemesis ]

I'll leave the case off and angled for the night, perhaps ill get some air out this way and tomorrow I will check the TIM and the block and have prime running for like 2h and post again

Any further suggestions? Fancy it looks, now it has to work

 

[Mgutierrez33]

Use a little thermal paste spreader or a piece of plastic and spread the thermal compound over the CPU. There only ever needs to be enough to actually cover the top of the CPU. I've used this method for several builds and not once have I had any sort of issues. Just make sure that you use an electrically non-conductive thermal compound and be sure to wipe away any excess from the CPU silicon if it gets on there. Pea sized dot/cross method is kind of inconsistent, I think.

Also, nice looking water loop! Looking forward to pic update with the GPU in the mix as well!

 

[Kidbest100]

Those temps do seem really high for just the CPU...Especially with all those radiators.

 

[B NEGATIVE]

25c ambient with that much vcore....sound about right.

 

[Scia]

with that much vcore

Well, I thought it stable at 4.5 @ 1.3v and 4.8 1.375v soon to find out they were not ^^' This one seems rock solid tho

Use a little thermal paste spreader or a piece of plastic and spread the thermal compound over the CPU. There only ever needs to be enough to actually cover the top of the CPU.

That's basically what I did. Used an old creditcard.

Perhaps the block is somewhat tilted or something, hard to tell with the Sabertooth's thermal-armor-thingy.

Ima go lay it flat now and reapply the thermal paste and so on, and will post back in a bit if anything has changed

Thx for your help so far

Edit:
Anyone has somewhat of a "delta-goal" so I know when I got it about right? Like, what should the delta be approx ^^

 

[tinytomlogan]

25c ambient with that much vcore....sound about right.

Finally someone that knows what they are talking about not guessing.

You would get the same temps on just the top rad. Very badly configured tbh

 

[Scia]

The holy one! ;P

You would get the same temps on just the top rad.

I didn't expect the dual rad to get better temps compared to either of them standing alone, but I want to add some GPUs later on [once they're out and I've got the money to spend] ;P

Very badly configured tbh

Any suggestions? Since I'll tear it appart and build it up again, once the GPUs get in anyways

 

[Scia]

Alright, I could bleed out some more air, and I have replaced the TIM and reseated the CPU block.

After 2:08:37 of Prime95 on Large FFTs:

With an ambienttemp of 24.5°C this gives me deltas of:

Core 0 dT= 27.5°C
Core 1 dT= 31.5°C
Core 2 dT= 31.5°C
Core 3 dT= 29.5°C

Which gives me an average gain in delta-temps of:
(39-27.5+45-31.5+45-31.5+41-29.5)/4 = 12.5°C
Over yesterday
[CPU still 4.5ghz / 1.32V]

Now the temps are somewhat around what I expected.
Ty all very much for your help !!! <3