New mouse

[KING_OF_SAND]

I just recently purchased the G700s to replace the God awful G600. My primary reason for it was because I loved my G700 so I thought I would give the 700s a try. And please don't give me the BS on wireless gaming mice. This is the 21st century with crazy good advancements in wireless technology embrace wireless!

Needless to say I love gaming wirelessly, I love the freedom of it. Yes I have used all sorts of wired mice from Razer, Corsair, Mionix, Logitech, and Coolermaster; all of which were nice mice but nothing like a good wireless one. The battery life is fantastic and will easily last hours in gaming and will last days on normal desktop mode. The perfect amount of buttons which I have assigned as numbers for games and quick switching weapons. Quick DPI and profile change as well.

And the best part is, is the plastic. Living in Arizona you tend to sweat a lot when gaming and in games where stress can get to you even more so. I don't know what kind of voodoo plastic they are using, but with VERY sweaty hands NOTHING sticks to the mouse and when I take the hand off it looks like it was never touched!

Oh and ZERO delay when wireless, VERY fast/responsive, and very smooth on the Propus mouse pad. My ONLY complaint is when the mouse is plugged in, the wire is a little stiff. But charging when I am in bed or at work leaves me with a full charge that will last the entire day.

 

[SeekaX]

no. no wireless. never.

 

[KING_OF_SAND]

no. no wireless. never.

May I ask why? Or are you hating based on myths and incorrect information about wireless gaming mice?

 

[SeekaX]

May I ask why? Or are you hating based on myths and incorrect information about wireless gaming mice?

i don't like the idea of a battery in my mouse at all. Batteries decrease in efficiency over the years, batteries can go flat, batteries are unreliable.
I don't care how long they can stay charged, it's not long enough for a Lan and if i then can plug in a cable to charge it i might as well save the bucks and go with a cable instead. wireless might have become more stable, but it's definitely not as consistent as a cable. There is literally not a single reason for me to pay 20$ extra.

 

[KING_OF_SAND]

i don't like the idea of a battery in my mouse at all. Batteries decrease in efficiency over the years, batteries can go flat, batteries are unreliable.
I don't care how long they can stay charged, it's not long enough for a Lan and if i then can plug in a cable to charge it i might as well save the bucks and go with a cable instead. wireless might have become more stable, but it's definitely not as consistent as a cable. There is literally not a single reason for me to pay 20$ extra.

The battery is replicable. I understand not liking the feel or weight of one, but you have defiantly been miss informed. What you say would ONLY apply if the battery was not replaceable, and in all wireless mice they are. And what do you mean "not as consistent"? Are you referring to the signals in the air that could but has yet to be shown to effect a wireless mouse? Second they don't make a G700s in a wire form, so if you like the mouse you have no choice, in fact pretty much all wireless mice do not have a wire variant so the $20 is inapplicable.

Again, other than style and weight (which is a factor in wired mice as well) a wireless gaming mouse performs exactly the same as any wire mouse with the ONLY drawback of not having infinite battery. In which case you can just plug it in and use a wire.

 

[SeekaX]

The battery is replicable. I understand not liking the feel or weight of one, but you have defiantly been miss informed. What you say would ONLY apply if the battery was not replaceable, and in all wireless mice they are. And what do you mean "not as consistent"? Are you referring to the signals in the air that could but has yet to be shown to effect a wireless mouse? Second they don't make a G700s in a wire form, so if you like the mouse you have no choice, in fact pretty much all wireless mice do not have a wire variant so the $20 is inapplicable.

Again, other than style and weight (which is a factor in wired mice as well) a wireless gaming mouse performs exactly the same as any wire mouse with the ONLY drawback of not having infinite battery. In which case you can just plug it in and use a wire.

i don't know about you but i don't have any batteries lying around and i can't be arsed to change them every few hours.
wireless is never steady. it's a know problem with wireless mice that interference happens quite a lot which can cause missclicks etc. of course it has improved lately, but if you aren't a casual gamer you don't want to take that 1/100000 chance of interference. especially at lan you will run into problems.
there might not be a wired g700, but there are equivalents to it and they are about 20$ cheaper. not to mention that in general i don't like logitech products. either they are big, but then they are heavy, weirdly shaped and don't feel well or they feel alright, but are small and for some odd reason very heavy. They are reliable though, just nothing for a low sensitivity gamer.
A corded mouse does carry the weight of the cable, but that doesnt affect weight as much as a battery. try finding a wireless 12cm + long mouse with a good sensor and lighter than 100g.

 

[remember300]

i prefer the cabled mice, and for gaming ill always go cable due to the fact i suffer with insomnia and on a bad night i could be gaming for 30 hours, which beleive me is not fun when all you wanna do is sleep. i do have a wireless mouse but i use that more for when im using my pc in a media function (watching films listening to music...)
so with me its just i did not see the point of a plug in wireless mouse when it will be wired 99% of the time (i dont watch alot of films on here anymore) also leaving it plugged in cant be much good for cells inside.
but i wont slate you if you find a mouse you like the look and feel along with it doing all you need it to do then thats awesome

 

[KING_OF_SAND]

i don't know about you but i don't have any batteries lying around and i can't be arsed to change them every few hours.
wireless is never steady. it's a know problem with wireless mice that interference happens quite a lot which can cause missclicks etc. of course it has improved lately, but if you aren't a casual gamer you don't want to take that 1/100000 chance of interference. especially at lan you will run into problems.
there might not be a wired g700, but there are equivalents to it and they are about 20$ cheaper. not to mention that in general i don't like logitech products. either they are big, but then they are heavy, weirdly shaped and don't feel well or they feel alright, but are small and for some odd reason very heavy. They are reliable though, just nothing for a low sensitivity gamer.
A corded mouse does carry the weight of the cable, but that doesnt affect weight as much as a battery. try finding a wireless 12cm + long mouse with a good sensor and lighter than 100g.

Rechargeable AA can be bought for $5 and only need to be replaced every year to year and half. Wireless mice are very steady, and yes of course there are known problems with wireless. Do you also refuse to use Wi-Fi no matter where you go? Do you just carry an Ethernet everywhere? There are known problems and interferences with Wi-Fi as well. The fact of the matter is, the likely hood of you having a problem with a miss click, jittering mouse, or connectivity issues is slim to none with a wireless mouse. I went 2 years with the G700 wireless and went to lan parties and everywhere with it and NEVER had an issue with it. You are just basing something on what could theoretically happen and miss information. You may as well abandon all wireless if you are not going to get a product based on theoretical problems that occur with them.

 

[SeekaX]

Rechargeable AA can be bought for $5 and only need to be replaced every year to year and half. Wireless mice are very steady, and yes of course there are known problems with wireless. Do you also refuse to use Wi-Fi no matter where you go? Do you just carry an Ethernet everywhere? There are known problems and interferences with Wi-Fi as well. The fact of the matter is, the likely hood of you having a problem with a miss click, jittering mouse, or connectivity issues is slim to none with a wireless mouse. I went 2 years with the G700 wireless and went to lan parties and everywhere with it and NEVER had an issue with it. You are just basing something on what could theoretically happen and miss information. You may as well abandon all wireless if you are not going to get a product based on theoretical problems that occur with them.

i don't use wireless on my pc. why would i do that. i only use it on my laptop and my phone which i both only use for a bit of browsing, no serious stuff. same with mice. a gaming mouse has a cable, a browsing mouse may have wireless.
another 5$ for batteries, the costs are getting higher. + batteries are heavy and i wouldn't use a mouse heavier than 100g for gaming. i had enough issues with wireless mice to never touch them again.

 

[KING_OF_SAND]

i don't use wireless on my pc. why would i do that. i only use it on my laptop and my phone which i both only use for a bit of browsing, no serious stuff. same with mice. a gaming mouse has a cable, a browsing mouse may have wireless.
another 5$ for batteries, the costs are getting higher. + batteries are heavy and i wouldn't use a mouse heavier than 100g for gaming. i had enough issues with wireless mice to never touch them again.

You are missing the point! Do you not have a cell phone? Perhaps you should avoid them simply because of interference. And what issues did you have? Be specific. And don't forget wired mice are also prone to electrical interference. I have had issues with wired mice more so than I have with wireless. For example: Cable tangle, cable pulling, USB problems, portability issues, and cable braid problems. As you can see they all have issues. But don't give me the interference BS. Do you honestly believe companies have not thought about this? Even if you had 6 of the exact same mice in the same room, the likely hood of them interfering with one another is still very slim.

 

[SeekaX]

You are missing the point! Do you not have a cell phone? Perhaps you should avoid them simply because of interference. And what issues did you have? Be specific. And don't forget wired mice are also prone to electrical interference. I have had issues with wired mice more so than I have with wireless. For example: Cable tangle, cable pulling, USB problems, portability issues, and cable braid problems. As you can see they all have issues. But don't give me the interference BS. Do you honestly believe companies have not thought about this? Even if you had 6 of the exact same mice in the same room, the likely hood of them interfering with one another is still very slim.

i am not missing the point. wireless is fine for everyday stuff, but when i am playing a game i do not want to fear the battery going flat. which is the main issue i was experiencing with wireless mice. if the braid of the cable breaks that won't really bother me, USB problems apply to both and probably more to wireless mice, about portability i don't give much of a damn, if i need to take it with me i just roll the cable up, that's not that hard. i would rather fear portability with a wireless mouse because i know i would loose the dongle.
it's actually your turn to tell why i should pay more for a mouse that is less reliable, even if it's close to a wired mouse. not having to roll up a cable which takes 10 seconds? no broken braid? it's completely and utterly pointless for a PC, for a laptop it might make sense but for a laptop i wouldn't buy a gaming tier mouse.

 

[NickOmega]

As far as a mouse goes it's completely personal preference so if you like it then that's all that matters, you're not really required to make everyone else see it from your perspective.

Personally I won't use a wireless mouse. I forget to charge my phone half the time without adding something else I'd need to remember.
I get that a wireless mouse can be convenient, though see little purpose for it when using a desktop other than a tidier desk.

Enjoy your new mouse safe in the knowledge that it was the right one for you

 

[iBeInspire]

Dunno why this is turning into a thread bashing wireless... some people like it, other's don't.

I'd personally not go wireless either but if you're happy with it, enjoy your g700

 

[SeekaX]

Dunno why this is turning into a thread bashing wireless... some people like it, other's don't.

I'd personally not go wireless either but if you're happy with it, enjoy your g700

well it's not really bashing, the idea of wireless is good but the execution isn't good enough for me.

 

[SieB]

See the thing is, when I hear people saying wireless mice aren't good and don't work as well as wired mice, I know they are lying because I've used several and they all work just as good as any wired mouse I have ever used.

The old Bluetooth wireless mice used to have problems, but any of the modern wifi 2.4ghz 1000 reports a second (which is also the same amount of reports a wired mouse does a second) ones do not have problems at all.

Most of these arguments against wireless mice are silly nit picks made to look far worse that what they are, making mountains out of mole hills.

If you do not like wireless mice because you don't like to have to charge them, keep spare batteries (IN A DRAW ffs), don't like the extra 30 odd grams more than a wired mouse (what are you pee wee herman or something :lol:?) then that is you that has the problem with wireless mice and not wireless mice having problems.

If you don't like wireless mice, then you don't like them. But please don't try and make them out to be bad and make out that they don't perform and that they have problems.

They do perform just as well as any wired mice and they do not have any problems.

 

[SeekaX]

See the thing is, when I hear people saying wireless mice aren't good and don't work as well as wired mice, I know they are lying because I've used several and they all work just as good as any wired mouse I have ever used.

The old Bluetooth wireless mice used to have problems, but any of the modern wifi 2.4ghz 1000 reports a second (which is also the same amount of reports a wired mouse does a second) ones do not have problems at all.

Most of these arguments against wireless mice are silly nit picks made to look far worse that what they are, making mountains out of mole hills.

If you do not like wireless mice because you don't like to have to charge them, keep spare batteries (IN A DRAW ffs), don't like the extra 30 odd grams more than a wired mouse (what are you pee wee herman or something :lol:?) then that is you that has the problem with wireless mice and not wireless mice having problems.

If you don't like wireless mice, then you don't like them. But please don't try and make them out to be bad and make out that they don't perform and that they have problems.

They do perform just as well as any wired mice and they do not have any problems.

idk what you do with your mice but 30 grams make a huge difference. that would be 1/3 added weight to my current mouse which would be devastating for an fps player at a low sensitivity. of course it is always about personal preference, if you got that mindset you can't argue about anything because for someone even the most terrible thing seems like something good.

 

[MacLeod]

I too own a G700 and love it. It is a superb mouse and OP is right, when in wireless mode, the thing works and tracks perfectly.

Im generally with the dissenters in wireless mice if they cant be used wired but thats why I love the G700, it can. If the battery starts to run low on you (which would be odd as they last 8 to 10 hours of straight use) just plug the charger/USB into it and youre off and running and still playing while charging. In fact I usually just leave mine plugged in and run it wired.

So while I wouldnt want a wireless mouse that could ONLY be ran wireless because of battery hassles, the G700 is not one of these mice and worth looking at. It has an excellent feel and design to it and a superb sensor that is near surgical both wired and wireless. The only "odd" thing about it is the sensor is in the top of the mouse as opposed to the middle of it like they are in most mice so thatll take a little getting used to but its not a big deal, at least not to me.

 

[KING_OF_SAND]

idk what you do with your mice but 30 grams make a huge difference. that would be 1/3 added weight to my current mouse which would be devastating for an fps player at a low sensitivity. of course it is always about personal preference, if you got that mindset you can't argue about anything because for someone even the most terrible thing seems like something good.

What the mouse weighs is nothing but personal preference. As for being a disadvantage in the performance arena, a good wireless mouse has none when compared to a wired one.

 

[SeekaX]

What the mouse weighs is nothing but personal preference. As for being a disadvantage in the performance arena, a good wireless mouse has none when compared to a wired one.

well yes, but it is still a disadvantage because that means that only high sensitivity players can properly use a wireless mouse while a wired mouse can be used by anybody. you can't argue about personal preference, if someone likes something better there is no arguing to make him dislike it, it's all about the specs on paper.

 

[1355970]

I've been using wireless mice for 7 years. Infra mice aside, the first decent wireless mices i started with were two V450 nano mices, then i got an M505, needless to say with XL sized hands i hopelessly and irreversibly got into the habit of fingertip gripping (which is not a bad thing for gaming).

These Logitech mice i used neither have improved wireless technology, a quadrillion refreshes a second, or the word "gamer" used every second line of the quickstart guide, yet i had absolutely no trouble using them in competitive online games. Ah yea, and the icing on the cake: a pair of AA batteries were fine for 5-6 months at a time.

What eventually made me quit using wireless mice was the <insert a dozen swear words here> Omron micro switches. In about one and a half years every single one of my mices started double clicking on a single click, and also the laser sensor went dead in my M505 after 2 years.

I decided i'm too poor to buy 80 USD mices every second year (don't get me started on average wages here, i'm happy to eat meat thrice a week), so i ended up using cheaper wired mice, where i pay something extra not for the wireless features, but the gaming features. I use a Revoltec Fightmouse Elite now, which cost me about 52 USD. I have 9 buttons, 4 DPI profiles i can switch on-the-fly, macro programming software not worth a damn, but at least it has an ADNS-9500 sensor.

My opinion? I don't feel a damn difference neither in movement responsiveness, nor pointer preciseness, WITH windows mouse acceleration completely disabled.