must resist...
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Ty07allstar
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name='Ares210' said:
They are just banned in restaurants and places like that. They should be banned in all public places even outdoors.
name='Rastalovich' said:
Yes I do actually. Waking up in the morning after a night out and having to cough up all the crap that i've breathed in from smokers AND having family members who have never touched a cigarette suffer from lung cancer has left me pretty bitter. Quite right that you should be made to go outside, being respectful doesn't really enter into it.
FarFarAway
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Ye Rast u are kidding arent you? smoking has been rightly recognised as increasing by a significant proportion the number of deseases in the UK. I cba to go look right now but it's true. Hey most of my mates at Uni were trainee doctors and even they couldn't believe how much desease smoking causes.
Also I think this ban is great for those who work in pubs and clubs - they won't have to breather in someone else's poison
Also I think this ban is great for those who work in pubs and clubs - they won't have to breather in someone else's poison
Rastalovich
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name='llwyd' said:
Well of course being respectful comes into it, cos it`d be disrespectful to smoke whilst some1s eating wouldn`t it ? Let`s not base our influences too much on emotion cos it will be the end of us. U r not the only person don`t forget.
People almost suddenly got cancer from passive smoking from about the l8 80s onwards. Prior to the 80s, hearing the dreaded "C" word was very much rarer, and these days there are multiply less people smoking - but more people apparently die from not just getting cancer from it, but by being around it. Very odd.
I have ZERO doubt that smoking causes alot of lung/ent illnesses, but there is also ZERO proven scientific source that says it causes cancer, yet alone passively.
name='Kempez' said:
It`s been hailed as the blanket cause of alot of problems that nobody world-wide has proven or will put there name to as a study specifically on it - and not statistic based results that are publicly popular. 176/500 people who crashed a car on a saturday cut their hair the previous weekend, hence cutting u`r hair is bad for u`r driving.
Smoking causes alot of respratory?? based illnesses, and their roll-on effects, that is unquestionable - but I`d rather not base my reasons for not liking it on a popularist, non-proven suggestion that`s just thrown out there.
U can hypocritically drone on about breathing some1 elses poison, when u suck on some1 elses exhaust everyday - the closer the worse it is.
FarFarAway
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Smoking is a proven cause of Cancer. The cigarettes have a whole load of carcinogens in them
There are studies on smoking causing cancer and indeed passive smoking causing cancer but I suppose some people will simply choose to ignore them. I'm not a scientist or a doctor and it's not my field of expertise so I quite honestly cba to go into this argument
All I will say is that a ban on smoking in public places is a great thing and I'm glad of it.
There are studies on smoking causing cancer and indeed passive smoking causing cancer but I suppose some people will simply choose to ignore them. I'm not a scientist or a doctor and it's not my field of expertise so I quite honestly cba to go into this argument
All I will say is that a ban on smoking in public places is a great thing and I'm glad of it.
I heard, and I don't consider this the absolute truth, but.. The reason smoking caused cancer or at least contributing factor was that the pesticides used on the tobacco contains mildly radioactive chemicals. I believe it maybe the same chemical that killed that Russian spy a few months ago.
Rastalovich
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source Wiki-pedia (not that I`d swear by anything on a Wiki)
"may".
Is the best I can find at short notice.
That Russian guy is a bit of a quandry, he was definately assasinated tho, by whatever means.
Chinese make some nice
name='Ham' said:
The cars have to be powered in such a way and have to emit stuff through the front of the car behind and straight into the face of the driver ?
Hell no, electric car any1 ??
Making "cleaner" fuel, is like saying todays fag is better for u cos we`ve done this`n`that to them. People are still finding pets and children dead in cars cos they left engines running in the garage.
.. and of course u`r happy with the money u needlessly pay people to supply u fuel ?
tar and benzopyrene are the most significant carcinogens it also contains formaldehyde and a trace of cyanide , and in malta you can buy cigs with out duty paid 50% cheaper then real cigs , tbh i dont trust them 1st they are illegal 2nd they are prolly fake cheap fags which contain other chemicals which are not in normal tobacco
Even if there are no proven carcenogens I would still rather not inhale all the other crap. It's a drug.
And when I say being respectful doesnt enter into it I mean that in terms of when you dont smoke infront of non smokers, you are not being respectful, you are doing the least that can be expected. Would it be respectful if I thought 'I might be nice today and not stick a needle full of drugs in his arm while he's eating'. I see people smoking in pubs and restaurants while I'm there as them violating my human rights, theyre the ones with the addiction, not me.
And when I say being respectful doesnt enter into it I mean that in terms of when you dont smoke infront of non smokers, you are not being respectful, you are doing the least that can be expected. Would it be respectful if I thought 'I might be nice today and not stick a needle full of drugs in his arm while he's eating'. I see people smoking in pubs and restaurants while I'm there as them violating my human rights, theyre the ones with the addiction, not me.
Rastalovich
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Ya I see what u`r saying, and even taking into account the red-herring of passive smoking - although agreed is not nice, I`ve not gotten high off a line whilst some1`s sniffed it in the same room or whilst I`m eating.
Human rights ? To be carbonmonoxide`d ? and that`s a definate killer, takes about 30mins in a closed garage.
Human rights is a `pc` mentality, people walk free from convictions cos of human rights. U can`t hit a burglar cos of human rights - there`s u`r human rights. U can`t pick the bits u like and leave the rest.
Human rights ? To be carbonmonoxide`d ? and that`s a definate killer, takes about 30mins in a closed garage.
Human rights is a `pc` mentality, people walk free from convictions cos of human rights. U can`t hit a burglar cos of human rights - there`s u`r human rights. U can`t pick the bits u like and leave the rest.
Rastalovich
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No, I appologize Llwyd, it`s a bit out of order discussing this in this manner perhaps. Maybe the likes of mehself have had a really long time to get-over and subsequently look-into and so on.
It`s a disgusting habit, it`s beyond rediculous to start it (if u haven`t), it will lead to ill-health more likely than not, and it`s not the most social of things to do. Etiquette aside.
I personally welcome the ban, even tho I`m an idiot smoker. I`ve seen (looking from just a social aspect) the effects on just a social level and it is disrespectful, imo, to peoples who shouldn`t have to endure it. U wanna do it - that`s u`r foolish option - u don`t have to inflict it on others.
ban is here - live with it.
It`s a disgusting habit, it`s beyond rediculous to start it (if u haven`t), it will lead to ill-health more likely than not, and it`s not the most social of things to do. Etiquette aside.
I personally welcome the ban, even tho I`m an idiot smoker. I`ve seen (looking from just a social aspect) the effects on just a social level and it is disrespectful, imo, to peoples who shouldn`t have to endure it. U wanna do it - that`s u`r foolish option - u don`t have to inflict it on others.
ban is here - live with it.
FarFarAway
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Well said Rast - good too see you looking at both sides 
Smoking has been banned indoors (pubs and clubs) for quite some time now and it's a great idea. We recently had an incident where a non-smoking bar attendant developed lung cancer from passive smoking. She is only 28 iirc.
It's really simple - you want to smoke then do it in the comfort of your own home where nobody else is going to be affected by your smoke. This includes making sure that your kids don't breathe in the crap. I absolutely abhor seeing parents smoking in the car with kids too (pet hate), imho it's child abuse...plain and simple.
It's really simple - you want to smoke then do it in the comfort of your own home where nobody else is going to be affected by your smoke. This includes making sure that your kids don't breathe in the crap. I absolutely abhor seeing parents smoking in the car with kids too (pet hate), imho it's child abuse...plain and simple.
FarFarAway
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I agree. Smoking with your kids around is endangering their health - why would you do that to a kid, let alone your kid?
If the person has chosen to smoke then that's on them (at age 16 or whatever), though I would still dissuade them - but small children who just dont have the choice...makes me angry
If the person has chosen to smoke then that's on them (at age 16 or whatever), though I would still dissuade them - but small children who just dont have the choice...makes me angry
