Mantle like gains for Nvidia owners coming soon

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If there's any truth to this then it's going to be a very busy next couple of days ^_^

NVIDIA’s GeForce 337.50 ‘Wonder Driver’ to be released on April 7th

From An Nvidia Guy -
As you know, normally we don’t make posts about the drivers. However sometimes there are drivers that provide significant improvement over previous version, for instance, first AMD driver to support Mantle.
NVIDIA will release its GeForce 337.50 driver, which introduces some major changes, on April 7th.

New in GeForce 337.50 Beta drivers

  • Performance - Introduces key DirectX optimizations which result in reduced game-loading times and significant performance increases across a wide variety of games.Results will vary depending on your GPU and system configuration. Here are some examples of measured gains versus the previous 335.23 WHQL driver:

GeForce GTX 700 Series (Single GPU):

    • Up to 64% in Total War: Rome II
    • Up to 25% in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
    • Up to 23% in Sleeping Dogs
    • Up to 21% in Star Swarm
    • Up to 15% in Batman: Arkham Origins
    • Up to 10% in Metro: Last Light
    • Up to 8% in Hitman Absolution
    • Up to 7% in Sniper Elite V2
    • Up to 6% in Tomb Raider
    • Up to 6% in F1 2013

GeForce GTX 700 Series (SLI):

    • Up to 71% in Total War: Rome II
    • Up to 53% in Sniper Elite V2
    • Up to 45% in Aliens vs. Predator
    • Up to 31% in Sleeping Dogs
    • Up to 20% in CoD: Black Ops 2
    • Up to 10% in Hitman Absolution
    • Up to 9% in F1 2013
    • Up to 7% in Far Cry 3
    • Up to 6% in Metro: Last Light
    • Up to 6% in Batman: Arkham Origins


  • SLI Technology
    • Total War: Rome II – added profile
    • War Thunder – added profile
    • Watch Dogs – updated profile
    • Diablo III – updated profile






  • 3D Vision
    • Supports new “3D Compatibility Mode” for 3D Vision that enables us to improve the 3D experience for many key DirectX 10 and 11 games.


    • 3D Vision Profiles
      • Path of Exile – rated “Good”
      • KickBeat – rating now “Excellent”


    • 3D Compatiblity Mode Profiles
      • Assassin’s Creed Liberation – previously “Not Recommended”, now rated as “Excellent”
      • Sniper Elite: Nazi Zombie Army – previously “Good”, now rated as “Excellent”
      • Sniper Elite: Nazi Zombie Army 2 – previously “Good”, now rated as “Excellent
      • Strike Suit Zero – previously “Not Recommended”, now rated as “Good”
      • Watchdogs – rated as “Good”


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Source -

http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/74732
http://videocardz.com/50176/nvidias-...ased-april-7th
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=388074
http://www.game-debate.com/blog/inde...iver details!
 
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in all seriousness...

who plays avp anymore?

Why do they list such old games? what about.. titanfall? bf4? etc etc
 
Ahh, you beat me to posting this! Well done sir :).

If these drivers are what they claim to be, then they will improve the performance of all DX11 titles, which is a good thing.

Rome II at the top of the list there has absolutely terrible performance on most hardware, for the CPU in particular but generally bad across the board, funnily enough it is an Intel title.

If improvements are as good as they are claiming, then Nvidia will have done very well, but also look a bit stupid. If these gains could have been made, WHY DID THEY NOT DO THIS BEFORE? We have had DX11 since 2009 after all?

I understand the Nvidia would prioritize improving GPU bound scenarios but a CPU gain for everything with DX11 like this one IMHO should have been thought of and implemented long before now.

If gains are good in this driver I wonder how, or if AMD will respond to it.
 
If improvements are as good as they are claiming, then Nvidia will have done very well, but also look a bit stupid. If these gains could have been made, WHY DID THEY NOT DO THIS BEFORE? We have had DX11 since 2009 after all?
It's all about competition...
 
As SLI is useless in RTW2 it looks like they have found a nice boost on the single GPU setup and doing the maths nearly all of that 71% they are claiming for SLI is coming off the primary card lol.

It looks like NVidia have found some reasonable gains for a single card setup but it is not nearly so good with SLI once you do the sums.
 
It's all about competition...

Precisely, Nvidia has never saw it necessary to do this until now. As far as they are concerned, they work on the GPU and AMD/Intel work on the CPUs.
Up until now it wasn't really a GPU manufacturers job to improve CPU performance, AMD's Mantle has changed that.

Nvidia needs to compete with Mantle, and Nvidia do not seem interested in building an API atm. This driver will give Nvidia good gains in the CPU department, gains which will affect far more games than Mantle will, this is great for those currently using Nvidia GPUs in their system.
 
It's worth noting the "Up To" phrase. ^_^

Always helps to take Nvidia's (and AMD's) marketing spins on gains with a grain of salt.
 

This presents a problem, I'm definitely going to lose clients over this, Predator addiction returning.

Back in school years ago now a frag house opened up only 100 yards away from us, Every lunch time I was in there on AvP2 as a predator in a lan party, Was pure bliss :)
And that's what got me hooked on rigs, I wanted to own AvP2 and Homeworld 2 so bad I worked for 8 weeks straight after school just to get a basic rig to play them both ^_^
 
It's worth noting the "Up To" phrase. ^_^

Always helps to take Nvidia's (and AMD's) marketing spins on gains with a grain of salt.

indeed, a very large grain of salt, especially that Rome II performance gain.

I do look forward to seeing how much these drivers will benefit Nvidia GPUs. Free performance is always a good thing.

I've spent a sizable portion today benching my new R9 290 and after testing a few mantle games I must say that I am very impressed with the performance gains mantle provides.

Thief had it's Minimum Framerate move from 29.7 to 40.2 when I had my 1090T running at stock, with overclocked 1090T moving from 34.0 to 40.4 FPS. These changes in minimum framerate make a big difference in game, now in Thief the framerate is much more consistent and has no noticeable performance dips anymore.
 
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in all seriousness...

who plays avp anymore?

Why do they list such old games? what about.. titanfall? bf4? etc etc

Titanfall was obsolete from the day it released and BF4 is a mess.
Well, the one game which really benefits is Rome Total War II, they probably just had horrible optimization for that game before.
 
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Most of those games are Nvidia partnered ones. The ones that are AMD partnered (sleeping dogs and far cry) are too old to have mantle support. I guess its a way of Nvidia saying "look, our miraculous driver boost works on old games as well!"
Rome II was an intel sponsored game that had horrible optimization for both GPU and cpu. Its super performance increase from the driver is probably 'coincidentally' timed with a massive patch for Rome II as well.

Atleast with mantle they explained how they did it. That doesn't make mantle any better however. I much more prefer it when the games companies themselves work out something to increase performance, as it benefits everyone :)
 
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