Is it really worth porting to VISTA from XP?

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Deadmau5

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I'm about to do a new build (listed in another thread) and I'm unsure as to stick with XP or finally port over to VISTA.

I keep hearing bad press about VISTA and a M8 at work, who also plays a lot of games, says that he's going back to XP as he's sick of VISTA being pants.

With the release of SP3 for XP this week being the last ever (apparently) is support for XP going to dry up or is this just Microsoft trying to get everone to buy Vista :nono:

Any help appreciated ppl

Deadmau5
 
You will get mixed opinions from here.

I personally like XP and will stick with it, it is a personally choice.

You need to sum up the gains and the loses.

And is your system doing everything you want it to do at the moment? If yes.. then why change? :)
 
I loved XP but but since making the change to Vista I have really been happy with it. Personal preference really!
 
name='nepas' said:
as games are now starting to use dx10 you may as well go over to vista
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Cheers ev1. I suppose I'm better off getting the Ultimate package or is the run of the mill one OK?
 
Vista

It is personal choice. But the simple fact is that if you're building from scratch, and everything is "designed for Vista" and not "vista capable" you will have no problems what so ever. My recent build went effortlessley, didnt even need extra drivers for my 4 drive raid array, or my USB Bluetooth keyboard, full install took 20 mins. Obviously its down to hardware choice, but i think to utilize DX10 and larger memory capacity it is worth the switch especially to a 64bit environment (windows xp 64 werent too hot for support but it paved the way for vista 64). Another thing is that if you're planning on using your new peice of kit with a large display (plasma or LCD above 40") the extra support and features that come with Vista I think is more suited to the HTPC scene, however if your stuck on it being hidden away then maybe XP is the way to go. What alot of people I found that bag vista have compatibility issues with older hardware, honestly I had a guy phone me at work the other day asking me why his P3 450mhz, 128MB RAM with 13.1 GB HDD would not run vista, and that he wanted to return it for a full refund, I had to put him on hold and get the guys in the office to gather round to listen. I know its personal opinion but I remember all this whohaw when 95 came out, and then when xp came out. Same Old Same Old, worst comes to worst run a dual boot and see which you use more.
 
name='nepas' said:
as games are now starting to use dx10 you may as well go over to vista
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Yeah, just starting, and alot of new ones aren`t also.

I think by the time the majority->all games are being release with Dx10 as a requirement, and not an option, we`ll be looking at Windows2010 w/Dx10.1c or similar.

Way u gotta look at it, do the things u use, or intend to use, require Dx10 or even use it. If they don`t - there`s no rush.

The small number of things that do utilize Dx10 tho do look v.nice - and of course u can benchmark with 3DMark Vantage :p
 
Actually I would of said that nearly 80% of the games I have purchsed recently have Direct X 10 extension DLL's, alright thats not full DX10 but it does utilize some of the DX10 features.
 
I'm sticking with XP atm. I'm on XP x64 on my main pc and haven't had any problems.

I've used Vista on new builds and laptops, but don't really see much need to downgrade to it.

I've also had a lot of people contacting me via support with problems and questions about performance.

If you have a DX10 GPU I guess you could go for it. Also if you have a good system and like all the graphical features without minding the performance difference.

ATM I'm not that bothered about upgrading.

Out of interest, how many games fully support directx10 atm?
 
name='Jaster' said:
Actually I would of said that nearly 80% of the games I have purchsed recently have Direct X 10 extension DLL's, alright thats not full DX10 but it does utilize some of the DX10 features.
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Well ya, I could go out and buy 10 games where 8 of them deposit dx10.dll files in windows, and they`ll do it to XP machines too in some cases, but won`t use any Dx10 effects. Probably some kind of compatibility install thing so it`ll inherently work on both XP & Vista.

My handed down pc with XP on it, that I used to play games on last year, had dx10 files on it, doesn`t do anything tho.

But looking at all new games releases, I couldn`t say 50% are using Dx10 with any great confidence. There were a handful just b4 christmas mind u.
 
All future games will be dx10, with a fair few already dx10.

If you have some decent hardware you can run vista no probs.

THe only issue I can think of with my 64 bit vista is getting 3dm06 working... Other than that everything has been gravy.
 
Would you say 32bit or the 64bit version. I heard some rumours that 64bit vista's not that good for games. BTW I cannot see my hardware not coping with vista it's just wether it's good for games or stick with XP
 
name='Rastalovich' said:
Way u gotta look at it, do the things u use, or intend to use, require Dx10 or even use it. If they don`t - there`s no rush.
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New Build:

CoolerMaster 1000W REAL POWER PRO MODULAR PSU

Corsair Dominator Memory 2GBKIT (2X1GB) 1800MHZ DDR3 CL7

CoolerMaster BLACK ATX COSMOS S CASE

MSI GeForce 9800GX2 1GB GDDR3 PCIE 2xDVI HDMI 600/2GHZ

Asustek STRIKER EXTREME II S775 nForce 790i ATX

Intel QUAD Core 2 Extreme QX9650 3GHz 12MB 1333MHz:worship:

It's all about the gaming DX10 gonna be a necessitity
 
name='Deadmau5' said:
New Build:

CoolerMaster 1000W REAL POWER PRO MODULAR PSU

Corsair Dominator Memory 2GBKIT (2X1GB) 1800MHZ DDR3 CL7

CoolerMaster BLACK ATX COSMOS S CASE

MSI GeForce 9800GX2 1GB GDDR3 PCIE 2xDVI HDMI 600/2GHZ

Asustek STRIKER EXTREME II S775 nForce 790i ATX

Intel QUAD Core 2 Extreme QX9650 3GHz 12MB 1333MHz:worship:

It's all about the e-peen DX10 gonna be a necessitity
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:rolleyes:

Being serious tho, I would go for 4gb DDR2 rather than 2gb DDR3 as it's about half the price & if you go vista I'd say the amount of RAM could be a help.

Also a "Asustek STRIKER EXTREME II S775 nForce 790i ATX DDR3" seems to be around £100 more than the DDR2 version.
 
Yeah, frankly DDR3 is overpriced and the benefits are marginal. As for 32 bit or 64 bit, I've been running 64 bit for over 2 years with no problems, someone mentioned they had problems running 3dmark, I've never encountered any problems. If you are going the 64 bit route though I would check to see if you're networking, or TV capture devices are fully supported as there are still driver issues with some hardware manufacturers and 64bit OS. Just remember 4GB is max on 32 Bit OS, and it will only address 3.5GB, Home Premium Suports up to 16GB (Ultimate 128GB), so depending on when 4GB Dimms are available, which should be soon, you might wanna hold off on finalising your slection and whacking 16GB in the bad boy. :D
 
I think the issue is more whether to go for 64 bit or not these days. 4gb of ram is becoming the norm now so 64 bit is most likely the best choice. Vista is about as stable as XP and if you've got decent machinary then just as quick, I've even tried Vista on my Eee :)

And you can run the new 3d marks on Vista. Excitment.
 
Aero?

Your having a laugh! Start menu is a bit of a struggle for it ;) I followed a vlite guide for it to make it fit, it's wasn't that quick and really not that much more useful than linux. An experience all the same :)
 
I think that right now, 2x 2gb of DDR2 is the best choice. In 3 months DDR3 production should bring prices down but right now 4gb DDR2 equates to 2gb DDR3 in price but the DDR2 with 64bit will be better.

Just don't get 1gb sticks as some m/b seem to have issues with 4 x 1gb installed.
 
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