I witnessed the inhumanity and evil of man last night...
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Fragtekisalyer
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Now you are starting to talk some sense, look up the Warrenton PD number and call yourself, bye for now.
Fragtekisalyer
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Are you people retarded? It didn't happen, it was confirmed, he said he shot the guy three times. Once in the NECK, SHOULDER BLADE AND ARM. There isn't even the slightest mention of the perpetrator being shot or wounded and he was apprehended the next day at his mothers house. That isn't evidence? Plus the fact the the board owner confirmed with the Warrenton, VA PD? You people are living in a dream world.
American_Infidel
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http://www.zwire.com/site/tab2.cfm?newsid=18520364&BRD=2553&PAG=461&dept_id=506069&rfi=6
This from the link above. Furthermore it does NOT mention anything about the guy being shot (let alone three times). It does say he was arrested on Saturday at his mother's house. Also no mention of bullet holes in the vehicle, but to be fair it also doesn't mention the state of the vehicle.
FragTek's "story" leads you to believe the perp was arrested at the scene as he does NOT mention anything about the guy fleeing after he supposedly shot him three times.
This from the link above. Furthermore it does NOT mention anything about the guy being shot (let alone three times). It does say he was arrested on Saturday at his mother's house. Also no mention of bullet holes in the vehicle, but to be fair it also doesn't mention the state of the vehicle.
FragTek's "story" leads you to believe the perp was arrested at the scene as he does NOT mention anything about the guy fleeing after he supposedly shot him three times.
FarFarAway
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name='Fragtekisalyer' said:
First of all you are saying all this but have no evidence to back up what you say
Secondly you come onto a forum and accuse longstanding, well respected member of lying about something very serious.
Thirdly you present no hard evidence to back up what you say apart from "I say so" and to call the local PD (which wont happen as you well know).
Please do not comment any more I would like Fragtek to say his piece before you throw any more accusations around
After reading the link nothing was said to back up an argument against Frag particularly, so let's just hear from him shall we?
Thanks
workingzombie
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Well, where is FragTek then? Please don't tell me he is too busy to post, because he sure had no problem making multiple posts on our site about his
so-called heroics today. He lost a lotta trust at our site with this stunt,
jerking our collective chain.
Gentlemen, we are not out to smear this guy, only to reveal the facts.
A private citizen claiming to wound a perp three times with a personal firearm would make news big time. It hasn't made the news because it didn't happen.
Please don't tell me the news is keeping a lid on this--Nothing about would merit it. And if so, why would HE be talking about it on this and several forums?! it would compromise any of the so-called media blackout in the first place!
Prepared to be disappointed--Time will tell real soon.
so-called heroics today. He lost a lotta trust at our site with this stunt,
jerking our collective chain.
Gentlemen, we are not out to smear this guy, only to reveal the facts.
A private citizen claiming to wound a perp three times with a personal firearm would make news big time. It hasn't made the news because it didn't happen.
Please don't tell me the news is keeping a lid on this--Nothing about would merit it. And if so, why would HE be talking about it on this and several forums?! it would compromise any of the so-called media blackout in the first place!
Prepared to be disappointed--Time will tell real soon.
Hello, Gentlemen.
I'm sorry to be the one to confirm, but it's true.
I emailed the reporter, Alexandra Bodanovic. Here is a copy of the correspondence:
(begin)
Thanks for your interest. Someone sent us the same link, and believe me, I've already spoken to the Warrenton Policel Chief about this and there is no truth to it -- at all! I'm glad you liked the story too.
----- Original Message -----
From: (edited by sixtigers)
To: abogdanovic@timespapers.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:57 PM
Subject: Is this a case of "Internet Braggadocio", or had you heard of it?
This is in regards to your recent story:
Two remain in hospital after hit-and-run rampage
By: Alexandra Bogdanovic
06/26/2007
I came across an internet poster who says that he "stopped" this crime…here's his post:
http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=11101 <http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=11101>
Is this just some socially-retarded individual who makes up adventure fiction with himself as Hero, or is there some truth to this?
If there is some truth to this--something I'm doubting at this point (too many inconsistencies: He claims that after shooting the driver, he crashed the van and collapsed on the ground, while your story indicates both he and the van were found elsewhere)--why wouldn't it be reported?
Seems like it would be pretty newsworthy.
Thanks in advance for your time. And nice story, by the way. Good background work, and I like how you attempted to evenly balance other's opinions of Mr. Russell's mental faculties.
(end)
I had to check it out, fellas. I'm involved with firearms and fairly knowledgeable of CCW law (at least, here in California) and aspects of this story didn't ring true, or legally accurate.
It's nothing against Mr. Fragtek, and isn't personal. I am a supporter of firearms rights, however, and stories like this do not help our cause.
Ms. Bogdonovic's email addy is above. Confirm with her if you wish, though I'd reccomend you choose one individual to represent yourselves--she's a working reporter and doesn't need the hassle (and apparently I wasn't the first person to question her about this).
For those of you that were fooled by this, take solace in knowing you weren't the only ones.
Also remember that you all are probably friends with Fragtek for reasons other than his firearms familiarity. He stumbled a bit, and he's hoisted himself on his own petard, but he's still your friend.
He's just not the hero of that story.
I'm sorry to be the one to confirm, but it's true.
I emailed the reporter, Alexandra Bodanovic. Here is a copy of the correspondence:
(begin)
Thanks for your interest. Someone sent us the same link, and believe me, I've already spoken to the Warrenton Policel Chief about this and there is no truth to it -- at all! I'm glad you liked the story too.
----- Original Message -----
From: (edited by sixtigers)
To: abogdanovic@timespapers.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:57 PM
Subject: Is this a case of "Internet Braggadocio", or had you heard of it?
This is in regards to your recent story:
Two remain in hospital after hit-and-run rampage
By: Alexandra Bogdanovic
06/26/2007
I came across an internet poster who says that he "stopped" this crime…here's his post:
http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=11101 <http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=11101>
Is this just some socially-retarded individual who makes up adventure fiction with himself as Hero, or is there some truth to this?
If there is some truth to this--something I'm doubting at this point (too many inconsistencies: He claims that after shooting the driver, he crashed the van and collapsed on the ground, while your story indicates both he and the van were found elsewhere)--why wouldn't it be reported?
Seems like it would be pretty newsworthy.
Thanks in advance for your time. And nice story, by the way. Good background work, and I like how you attempted to evenly balance other's opinions of Mr. Russell's mental faculties.
(end)
I had to check it out, fellas. I'm involved with firearms and fairly knowledgeable of CCW law (at least, here in California) and aspects of this story didn't ring true, or legally accurate.
It's nothing against Mr. Fragtek, and isn't personal. I am a supporter of firearms rights, however, and stories like this do not help our cause.
Ms. Bogdonovic's email addy is above. Confirm with her if you wish, though I'd reccomend you choose one individual to represent yourselves--she's a working reporter and doesn't need the hassle (and apparently I wasn't the first person to question her about this).
For those of you that were fooled by this, take solace in knowing you weren't the only ones.
Also remember that you all are probably friends with Fragtek for reasons other than his firearms familiarity. He stumbled a bit, and he's hoisted himself on his own petard, but he's still your friend.
He's just not the hero of that story.
So I just got off the phone with the Warrenton PD (540-347-1100) and I'm really sad to say that the guy said "I don't know anything about it." I'm not saying Frag is a liar. I'm just saying that now I am a bit skeptical. However, it is possible that the guy wasn't informed...but something of this caliber =\
FarFarAway
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Whatever the situation may be members of the forum mentioned above coming on here and posting childish personal insults aimed at a well respected member of our forum is not appreciated.
Damn..Fragtekisalyer
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Whatever the situation may be members of the forum mentioned above coming on here and posting childish personal insults aimed at a well respected member of our forum is not appreciated.
Noone made any childish personal insults, only exposed the truth. Your buddy is back online to defend himself.
Noone made any childish personal insults, only exposed the truth. Your buddy is back online to defend himself.
FragTek
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Actually what MrApoc originally claimed on this page IS indeed correct.
This whole plot was created to see if people realize and/or possibly change their views on gun control laws and the personal carry of a defense weapon. I pretty much got the answer that I wanted. From all of this, you can see that even the people that heavily oppose these issues under normal circumstances can see the light in a situation such as this.
But for the record, my room mate and I were the first people on the scene that night to help the girls out and we did stop the attacker from continuing his bat beating. I thought this would be the perfect opportunity to see the reactions from people on the use of a firearm for self defense. To all that thought I did this for pure entertainment purposes, well, I guess you could call it entertainment for the purpose in which it was used yes. Did I do this to make myself look like a hero? No, that wasn't the point, in fact you can see my denial through these threads of being hailed as a "hero", that's giving credit where credit is not due and I'm not going to accept it, nor did I plan to.
So to clarify: I DID NOT SHOOT ANYONE ON THE NIGHT OF THE 22ND.
Anyhow, it's late and my internet is FAP'd. I'll catch you all in the morning.
This whole plot was created to see if people realize and/or possibly change their views on gun control laws and the personal carry of a defense weapon. I pretty much got the answer that I wanted. From all of this, you can see that even the people that heavily oppose these issues under normal circumstances can see the light in a situation such as this.
But for the record, my room mate and I were the first people on the scene that night to help the girls out and we did stop the attacker from continuing his bat beating. I thought this would be the perfect opportunity to see the reactions from people on the use of a firearm for self defense. To all that thought I did this for pure entertainment purposes, well, I guess you could call it entertainment for the purpose in which it was used yes. Did I do this to make myself look like a hero? No, that wasn't the point, in fact you can see my denial through these threads of being hailed as a "hero", that's giving credit where credit is not due and I'm not going to accept it, nor did I plan to.
So to clarify: I DID NOT SHOOT ANYONE ON THE NIGHT OF THE 22ND.
Anyhow, it's late and my internet is FAP'd. I'll catch you all in the morning.
Fragtekisalyer
Banned
Well.........waiting........It didn't take him this long to post over on SKS. Hmmm.
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