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Strange you are talking about Norway. I watched this last week.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7280898/

Hard to watch and incredibly sad.

yeah and scarily had I left work on time that day instead of leaving early, I would not be here today. I pass the government building at that time the explosion went off.

It was literally 5mins walk from my apartment at the time. Our windows still needed repair from the blast where the force was so strong it slammed them shut and damaged the framework.

Although I hate the spoken english in it, I have to respect the decision to use scandinavian actors :)

Shocking but realistic view of what happened. I just hate that Brievik is so well looked after in prison.
 

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I wouldn't call solitary confinement being looked after. That will send any one crazy (well, unless he's an Aspie lol).

I heard he was trying to get a PS3 but they wouldn't let him have it....
 
I wouldn't call solitary confinement being looked after. That will send any one crazy (well, unless he's an Aspie lol).

I heard he was trying to get a PS3 but they wouldn't let him have it....

He got it. Along with private time to use a gym. A gym which contains some pretty decent Cardio equipment.
 
He got it. Along with private time to use a gym. A gym which contains some pretty decent Cardio equipment.

Your country is too nice. And seriously, they should learn from England, being too nice gets you into a world of crap.

I would love to live over there, I really would. It's beautiful, too, which helps.
 
Isn't that why it's suggested that old people get put in prison and criminals get put in old peoples homes, we look after the criminals better than our old people
 
Isn't that why it's suggested that old people get put in prison and criminals get put in old peoples homes, we look after the criminals better than our old people

We do, and it's shameful. Problem is that all OAP homes are now private, and thus ran by some greedy b-tard and not the govt. Mind you what am I saying, the old ones were just as bad.
 
Isn't that why it's suggested that old people get put in prison and criminals get put in old peoples homes, we look after the criminals better than our old people

Disgusting but true.

I read a man intentionally gained a short prison sentence so that he could get his dental problems treated and skip the 9month waiting list he was on while waiting for NHS treatment.
 
Disgusting but true.

I read a man intentionally gained a short prison sentence so that he could get his dental problems treated and skip the 9month waiting list he was on while waiting for NHS treatment.

The NHS right now needs scrapping and rebuilding, There are so many incompetent doctors and nurses who bought their papers in the NHS.

Female doctor stabbed my dad in the arm 9 times trying to draw blood, Turned out she bought her papers somewhere and started practising in England, She vanished after we reported her.

If the system was run by people with an IQ higher than 70 it should be common practise that EVERY doctor or nurse from outside the country they want to practise in has to by law retake a written and oral medical exam, Guaranteed 99% would fail and be deported.
 
The NHS right now needs scrapping and rebuilding, There are so many incompetent doctors and nurses who bought their papers in the NHS.

Female doctor stabbed my dad in the arm 9 times trying to draw blood, Turned out she bought her papers somewhere and started practising in England, She vanished after we reported her.

If the system was run by people with an IQ higher than 70 it should be common practise that EVERY doctor or nurse from outside the country they want to practise in has to by law retake a written and oral medical exam, Guaranteed 99% would fail and be deported.

Then you won't have any nurses and doctors. British staff are leaving in droves and going to work for private firms like BUPA.

NHS is desperate for an influx of new staff. They have no choice to seek abroad, where doctors/nurses and specialists would happily work in the UK for less than when the British counterparts earn. They are used to long hours and unpaid overtime.

My issue isnt the incompetance. It's the slave treatment the NHS enforce.

Paramedics no longer recognised as such and no only classed as driver aid meaning less salary? WTF did Jeremy Hunt think he is was doing?
 
Then you won't have any nurses and doctors. British staff are leaving in droves and going to work for private firms like BUPA.

NHS is desperate for an influx of new staff. They have no choice to seek abroad, where doctors/nurses and specialists would happily work in the UK for less than when the British counterparts earn. They are used to long hours and unpaid overtime.

My issue isnt the incompetence. It's the slave treatment the NHS enforce.

Paramedics no longer recognised as such and no only classed as driver aid meaning less salary? WTF did Jeremy Hunt think he is was doing?

But they aren't doctors or nurses if they bought their papers and these peoples incompetence is costing lives.

I wouldn't have a problem with people who buy their papers being failed and deported as they are not qualified, There are tens of thousands of cases each year of malpractice by people who can hardly speak English and have no clue what they're doing who also cause unnecessary amounts of death because they are not doctors or nurses, They bought their papers.

My uncle is an actual doctor, Works in Germany and England, He himself has reported hundreds of people who bought their papers and killed people because they had no idea what they were doing.

In Germany you have to resit a medical exam if you come from outside the country, The same thing should be put in place in England to stop the loss of life and epic amounts of malpractice.

Sorry but anyone who defends people that buy papers is missing a few marbles as they are literally defending fraud.
 
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The biggest problem with the NHS is it wasn't designed to treat the number of people we now have in this country, and with the increasing cost of medicines it's something that can't be sustained, at some point people will have to accept that we will need private and health insurance
 
The biggest problem with the NHS is it wasn't designed to treat the number of people we now have in this country, and with the increasing cost of medicines it's something that can't be sustained, at some point people will have to accept that we will need private and health insurance

Yes and no, Over the last few years over 40,000 qualified medical students from the UK were rejected placements within the NHS and instead the NHS hired people from outside the UK/EU which meant lower wages and longer hours but also the vast majority of these people weren't doctors or nurses, They bought their papers, So they were about as qualified as me and I have no clue about medicine and the things a real doctor learns in med school.

The NHS is being slowly dismantled and more of a strain put on it by having less qualified doctors and less qualified nurses so when some big rich fat cat comes along they can say "see national health doesn't work, Give me money".

All down to money, If the NHS wasn't continuously whittled down by the government and fat cats in charge it wouldn't be a problem.

Cousin of mine in the north of England is a time served nurse and in her department there are now more bosses that do nothing but soak up money than actual doctors and nurses.
 
The biggest problem with the NHS is it wasn't designed to treat the number of people we now have in this country, and with the increasing cost of medicines it's something that can't be sustained, at some point people will have to accept that we will need private and health insurance

Hate to say this, but the British are a nation of unhealthy obese sofa addicts these days. You are approaching being the most obese nation in EU. Of course there are exceptions but it seems to get less and less as the population expands.

The amount of money wasting supporting people who are brought in with issues linked to obesity is shockingly bad. My own brother and his family now are all overweight border line classed as obese, no longer do anything active and sit on the sofa watcing TV all day.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...est-nation-world-rising-faster-united-states/

Another bonus for Norway where although we have fast food everywhere, there is a craze with healthy living and training. So as Greenback states, NHS is overwhelmed with people and it cannot cope.

If he was admitted. Of course I would want NHS to support him, but also be annoyed how it could easily have been avoided.

40% of NHS workload is spent on avoidable issues like alcohol, obesity and smoking. In other words more money spent than what is spent on police, and fire service.
 
Hate to say this, but the British are a nation of unhealthy obese sofa addicts these days. You are approaching being the most obese nation in EU. Of course there are exceptions but it seems to get less and less as the population expands.

The amount of money wasting supporting people who are brought in with issues linked to obesity is shockingly bad. My own brother and his family now are all overweight border line classed as obese, no longer do anything active and sit on the sofa watcing TV all day.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...est-nation-world-rising-faster-united-states/

Another bonus for Norway where although we have fast food everywhere, there is a craze with healthy living and training. So as Greenback states, NHS is overwhelmed with people and it cannot cope.

If he was admitted. Of course I would want NHS to support him, but also be annoyed how it could easily have been avoided.

40% of NHS workload is spent on avoidable issues like alcohol, obesity and smoking. In other words more money spent than what is spent on police, and fire service.

The thing that annoys me about people who are overweight is they start getting abusive with people who stay fit, I've seen an overweight woman turn red from shouting at a woman jogging and nearly get physically violent, I think that side of things also needs to be addressed.

Also you are spot on the mark, I have noticed over the last few years the amount of people who are ballooning in size, Even happening in the middle east of all places.
 
What makes me laugh atm is the being over weight is healthy from the left and don't you dare show medical evidence it's not you fat shamer, the bloke they had to take the front window of his bedroom out because the stairs wasn't wide enough yep he's really healthy
 
What makes me laugh atm is the being over weight is healthy from the left and don't you dare show medical evidence it's not you fat shamer, the bloke they had to take the front window of his bedroom out because the stairs wasn't wide enough yep he's really healthy


The modern left are lunatics, They celebrate mental illness when people should be helped and not encouraged, They celebrate and encourage life threatening situations like being obese instead of giving useful advice, They tear down anything good and then threaten anyone who dares speak up against any of their insane agendas with either physical violence or legal actions, They're 1 goose step away from being full blown brown shirts.
 
The modern left are lunatics, They celebrate mental illness when people should be helped and not encouraged, They celebrate and encourage life threatening situations like being obese instead of giving useful advice, They tear down anything good and then threaten anyone who dares speak up against any of their insane agendas with either physical violence or legal actions, They're 1 goose step away from being full blown brown shirts.

Watched a university speech on yt and the person had cut in clips from Pol pot re-education camps and the similarities was frightening
 
The modern left are lunatics, They celebrate mental illness when people should be helped and not encouraged, They celebrate and encourage life threatening situations like being obese instead of giving useful advice, They tear down anything good and then threaten anyone who dares speak up against any of their insane agendas with either physical violence or legal actions, They're 1 goose step away from being full blown brown shirts.


Honestly, I've said this before and I'll say it again until I'm blue in the face. The modern left will be the fall of western civilization as we know it. The Romans, Ottomans etc all fell through their own decadence in one way or another, and the left are so heavily decadent that I can see western civilization begining to crumble already.
 
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