EVGA 780 Classified SLI vs. 780 Ti Classified
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A single card is always better than an SLI setup.
In terms of raw power, obviously the 780 SLI will win. But you also have to put up with increased noise, power usage, heat, and the fact that SLI requires driver updates every time a new game comes out that you want to play, unless you want the dreaded microstutters.
Get a 780Ti. It'll cut through 1080p gaming like a chainsaw through butter. In fact, you should probably go 1440p just so that your poor new 780Ti doesn't get bored
In terms of raw power, obviously the 780 SLI will win. But you also have to put up with increased noise, power usage, heat, and the fact that SLI requires driver updates every time a new game comes out that you want to play, unless you want the dreaded microstutters.
Get a 780Ti. It'll cut through 1080p gaming like a chainsaw through butter. In fact, you should probably go 1440p just so that your poor new 780Ti doesn't get bored
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MrKambo
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Ive got the 780 Classy and ive get to find a game that troubles it! 780Ti would be such a beast!
Not necessarily. 120Hz monitors can benefit from these beasts also.
Although I'm waiting on the price of the modified Asus 120hz with Gsync to drop.
Thanks guys. Purchased a 780 ti classy today and it's on it's way.
Agreed. I was looking at upgrading my monitor too but I think I'll wait till more gsync models come out.
Vlada011
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I have same dilemma. GTX780 Class SLI or GTX780Ti Class KP Edition...
To sell GTX580 and buy another GTX780 Class. or sell her and buy GTX780Ti CLass KP Edition and keep GTX580 for PhysX.
And because I used on single cards it's 90% and I will upgrade on Ti.
I lose lot of performance but never mind. From money side I will pay same.
But this card look incredible and will be expensive...
For me is most important high base clock 1075MHz and Boost is almost 1200MHz I can bet. They talk something about 1300MHz on 1200V stable and I can't ask nothing better. 2880 CUDA unlocked GPU Clock 1300MHz and 1900-2000MHz Memory after OC is crazy speed for gaming.
I could imagine how card shine in case with LEDs as
To sell GTX580 and buy another GTX780 Class. or sell her and buy GTX780Ti CLass KP Edition and keep GTX580 for PhysX.
And because I used on single cards it's 90% and I will upgrade on Ti.
I lose lot of performance but never mind. From money side I will pay same.
But this card look incredible and will be expensive...
For me is most important high base clock 1075MHz and Boost is almost 1200MHz I can bet. They talk something about 1300MHz on 1200V stable and I can't ask nothing better. 2880 CUDA unlocked GPU Clock 1300MHz and 1900-2000MHz Memory after OC is crazy speed for gaming.
I could imagine how card shine in case with LEDs as
Dicehunter
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The kingpin edition is really only worth the money if your planning on using liquid nitrogen to overclock it as EVGA, Kingpin himself and a lot of other top overclockers have already stated.
Both my EVGA Superclocked 780 Ti's boost to 1175 and I have both overclocked to 1200 on the GPU and 3800 on the memory.
The difference between one overclocked 780 Ti above and the kingpin edition in games will be so small it wont be worth the huge amount of extra money, This card is meant for extreme overclockers i.e Liquid Nitrogen.
Save your money and get another EVGA GTX 780 Classified for SLI.
Both my EVGA Superclocked 780 Ti's boost to 1175 and I have both overclocked to 1200 on the GPU and 3800 on the memory.
The difference between one overclocked 780 Ti above and the kingpin edition in games will be so small it wont be worth the huge amount of extra money, This card is meant for extreme overclockers i.e Liquid Nitrogen.
Save your money and get another EVGA GTX 780 Classified for SLI.
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Vlada011
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GTX780 Classified SLI is for me cheaper option. Because for that I only need to sell practical new EVGA GTX580 reference unpacked in August 2013 from foil and registered before 6 months. Other money I have saved for upgrade on Ti.
Other option is little more expensive for me less performance... That's sell GTX780 Classified keep GTX580 for PhysX and pay about 300-350e for GTX780Ti. Anyway I need to pay 300-350e only in one situation I stay with GTX780 Classified SLI and in other with GTX780Ti Classified and GTX580 for physix.
But this card I look as 1200MHz Boost out of box on stock voltage and EVGA will try to pull 1300MHz with 1200V. That's clear 25% more than GTX780 plus faster memory, plus 120MHz higher fabric clock than GTX780 Classified. I say that's clear 25%+ better card than single 780, double less power consumption than SLI and much less problem than with SLI. With SLI I count on 60-65% scaling in normal situation. But for 12 months for power bill I will spend one Intel processor.
Because of that I'm more for GTX780Ti KPE. I have buyers immediately for GTX580 because it's excellent nice reference sample with Samsung memory inside and I can order immediately second GTX780 Classified.
But keeping this in hand is priceless.
I will not pay any more NVIDIA PCB or similar...and this card will be not more than 100$ over GTX780Ti reference with I don't have real word for their PCB... such expensive cards and such boards ...
OK GIGABYTE make GHz Edition with same base clock as KP Edition but zero OC space that's word of difference sources. They binned chip to work on 1085MHz and boost and nothing else. Only to show stability on that clocks.
Other option is little more expensive for me less performance... That's sell GTX780 Classified keep GTX580 for PhysX and pay about 300-350e for GTX780Ti. Anyway I need to pay 300-350e only in one situation I stay with GTX780 Classified SLI and in other with GTX780Ti Classified and GTX580 for physix.
But this card I look as 1200MHz Boost out of box on stock voltage and EVGA will try to pull 1300MHz with 1200V. That's clear 25% more than GTX780 plus faster memory, plus 120MHz higher fabric clock than GTX780 Classified. I say that's clear 25%+ better card than single 780, double less power consumption than SLI and much less problem than with SLI. With SLI I count on 60-65% scaling in normal situation. But for 12 months for power bill I will spend one Intel processor.
Because of that I'm more for GTX780Ti KPE. I have buyers immediately for GTX580 because it's excellent nice reference sample with Samsung memory inside and I can order immediately second GTX780 Classified.
But keeping this in hand is priceless.
I will not pay any more NVIDIA PCB or similar...and this card will be not more than 100$ over GTX780Ti reference with I don't have real word for their PCB... such expensive cards and such boards ...
OK GIGABYTE make GHz Edition with same base clock as KP Edition but zero OC space that's word of difference sources. They binned chip to work on 1085MHz and boost and nothing else. Only to show stability on that clocks.
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Dicehunter
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As I said above another 780 would be a good choice or getting a single 780 Ti is also good but getting the Kingpin edition if your not a competitive overclocker i.e cash prizes and sponsorship then no offense but it's an idiotic purchase.
Vlada011
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It's not idiotic purchase, it's almost 130MHz over GTX780Ti...
I don't want only EVGA sticker and ACX Cooler only or any other company.
It's better custom PCB. I think price will not be so much over GTX780Ti Classified.
Something more because 50MHz bigger clock and improvement on PCB.
But it would be nice to to play with voltage... Did you saw GTX780Ti voltage slider... Hahaha that's joking, and ordinary gamer want at least 0.100-0.150V increase...If you stuck on some clock and card can more but need more voltage it's not enough to stabilize 20-30MHz more.
How much 0.025-0.037V I think. OK I will not drain card as people with water cooling loops, but this is joking... I used on 0.150V on stock Radeons. That's nothing for chip.
Now NVIDIA GK110 can only 1/4 of that.
I don't want only EVGA sticker and ACX Cooler only or any other company.
It's better custom PCB. I think price will not be so much over GTX780Ti Classified.
Something more because 50MHz bigger clock and improvement on PCB.
But it would be nice to to play with voltage... Did you saw GTX780Ti voltage slider... Hahaha that's joking, and ordinary gamer want at least 0.100-0.150V increase...If you stuck on some clock and card can more but need more voltage it's not enough to stabilize 20-30MHz more.
How much 0.025-0.037V I think. OK I will not drain card as people with water cooling loops, but this is joking... I used on 0.150V on stock Radeons. That's nothing for chip.
Now NVIDIA GK110 can only 1/4 of that.
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Dicehunter
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You know how much an extra 50 MHZ gets you in games ? Next to nothing.
Even Kingpin himself said this card is designed for serious overclockers i.e LN2, If your just doing a bit of overclocking you would be better suited to spend your money elsewhere like on a 780 Ti classy or even a standard 780 Ti.
If you want to waste your money then go ahead.
Vlada011
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OK, I love my cards to came with high clocks, if I buy GIGABYTE or MSI model I will pay 50-60e less, example GIGABYTE GHz Edition. You read better than I what will be if I decide after one year to OC.
For this card is not confirmed yet and if someone is interested can go on EVGA site to read about news but looks like EVGA will allow hard mode to overpass voltage limit. I would rather pay someone so brave to give warranty on such cards than someone who don't give you to change grace as GIGABYTE, ASUS, MSI...
50-60e will melt during next months and for one year such difference will be as nothing. I had GIGABYTE HD5870 they didn't allow me to change paste inside, I play on 90C later cooler was broken, before few months I sell card to guy who had turbine for that model. He replace paste and fix cooler because I couldn't do that under warranty and now he play on 75-76C. I didn't saw such temps more than year and I could do that but GIGABYTE say No warranty if you remove screws. I can remove them without damage. But they probably send card on forensic expertise before allow RMA.
SLI is excellent option but it's still not perfect.
AMD and NVIDIA need to work lot on dual GPU configuration for gaming.
For this card is not confirmed yet and if someone is interested can go on EVGA site to read about news but looks like EVGA will allow hard mode to overpass voltage limit. I would rather pay someone so brave to give warranty on such cards than someone who don't give you to change grace as GIGABYTE, ASUS, MSI...
50-60e will melt during next months and for one year such difference will be as nothing. I had GIGABYTE HD5870 they didn't allow me to change paste inside, I play on 90C later cooler was broken, before few months I sell card to guy who had turbine for that model. He replace paste and fix cooler because I couldn't do that under warranty and now he play on 75-76C. I didn't saw such temps more than year and I could do that but GIGABYTE say No warranty if you remove screws. I can remove them without damage. But they probably send card on forensic expertise before allow RMA.
SLI is excellent option but it's still not perfect.
AMD and NVIDIA need to work lot on dual GPU configuration for gaming.
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I completely understand your point from a performance perspective for normal and even mild overclocking users their is nothing to be gained by going for a Kingpin over a Classified. But do you think financially it might be a sensible decision, seeing as its a very limited production run and they are hard to get hold of and at the same time their intended destiny is to be pushed until they border on death, if they perform well might they actually become more desirable in a few months time when their all sold out and half of then have been binned and therefore hold their value like a boss?
JR
Kingpin cards are purely for benchmarking and slapping an OC under Ln2.
If you are buying this for games, I strongly suggest checking comments from Kingpin himself before squandering your money. There is not enough gain over other Ti cards to make the purchase worth it.
Please do some research on the card or you may find yourself to be utterly disappointed. I think 780ti classy, or MSI's Gaming/Lightning may be better (is lightning even available yet?)
edit* I'm not trying to be offensive to you in case that's how I may have come across. I'm just saying, before you dump a large amount of money on the Kingpin cards, make sure you know the background of that card and its primary purpose.
If you are buying this for games, I strongly suggest checking comments from Kingpin himself before squandering your money. There is not enough gain over other Ti cards to make the purchase worth it.
Please do some research on the card or you may find yourself to be utterly disappointed. I think 780ti classy, or MSI's Gaming/Lightning may be better (is lightning even available yet?)
edit* I'm not trying to be offensive to you in case that's how I may have come across. I'm just saying, before you dump a large amount of money on the Kingpin cards, make sure you know the background of that card and its primary purpose.
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Dicehunter
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They could be a collectors type item but it's impossible to say really as these things phase out quickly.
Vlada011
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I love unusual hardware as EVGA GTX580 Classified ULTRA.
I will never forgive myself because I bought GTX580 DirectCUII instead Classified ULTRA. Such hardware is not for selling. Such hardware is for personal collection because that's best from one generation, best Fermi, best Kepler, and one good mouse price over some other model is acceptable...
It's really excellent and colors fit with my motherboard, sound card,...
I will never forgive myself because I bought GTX580 DirectCUII instead Classified ULTRA. Such hardware is not for selling. Such hardware is for personal collection because that's best from one generation, best Fermi, best Kepler, and one good mouse price over some other model is acceptable...
It's really excellent and colors fit with my motherboard, sound card,...
Dicehunter
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Dude you don't have to talk us into it, We don't give a crap what you spend your money on.
If you want to waste your money on this then go right ahead.
If you want to waste your money on this then go right ahead.
barnsley
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If you want an excellent OCing card go for the MSi lightning series . The Kingpin one is for benchmarking, not gaming as such. As Dicehunter said, its a waste of money otherwise.
I vote 780ti as less driver headaches. I'd say don't go for EVGA as well but as you said you want an evga card then I won't bother suggesting another
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I vote 780ti as less driver headaches. I'd say don't go for EVGA as well but as you said you want an evga card then I won't bother suggesting another
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