Creative enrage fanbase with custom driver comment

[FarFarAway]

I don't agree at all Rast - MS do support the old programs that worked on their old OS, even to the point of sticking in a comp-atibility mode so it works on Vista

Creative have been heavy handed, and to say they aren't good coders....that's a ridiculous thing to admit

Disabling DTS etc in XP for older cards (when it was there previously), is like stealing from the consumers....and you think that's OK?

 

[mrapoc]

Not to mention not including optical out and sticking mic/digital on the same connector...but thats a different story

Why do their drivers have to be major bloatware just to get features you expect?

I've given up and just used basic install making it harder for me

Can you remember when they had that problem where digital out kept turning off every restart? A member of the community was giving solution to it way before creative did...took them like 6 months to implement it into the next driver

 

[Rastalovich]

I don't agree at all Rast - MS do support the old programs that worked on their old OS, even to the point of sticking in a comp-atibility mode so it works on Vista

Creative have been heavy handed, and to say they aren't good coders....that's a ridiculous thing to admit

Disabling DTS etc in XP for older cards (when it was there previously), is like stealing from the consumers....and you think that's OK?

Nah m$-like as in, Creative`s emphasis is more based on the new product, the old product "although supported" (we know what "supported" means) with new drivers, invariably leads to problems or things not working.

It`s almost akin to nVidia`s latest drivers and using them on a 6 series card - they "support" them, but the drivers can cause all kinds of problems. They work to an extent tho. Bring up an issue with nVidia about the 6 series not working with the lastest drivers and they`ll look at you puzzled. Creative do almost the same thing, but with a smaller product base. (maybe replace smaller with less frequently evolving)

U try getting your series 6 nVidia card to output to a TV screen (with a today`s rigs/drivers). U can go back to nVidia and they`ll say it`s no longer part of the driver set. U dig deeper and it appears m$, with some drm related reason, don`t want this feature going forward. But my series 6 and 7 cards have been able to do it before ? It`s been disabled. It does work because you can drag to the tv and enlarge to a full screen, but the feature of mapping to the tv output has been removed. Do we think this is ok ? We certainly took it.

Creative do have very good coders. U have the correct OS, the correct card, the correct associated chipset base, and the correct drivers (from their pov) and the system will work very well, with all the features. When this happens it`s tremendous.

Along comes a new OS, or a new generation of mobo/chipset, and they`re dis-interested, they`re looking at their next product working on it, not the 2 year+ card your trying to `get` working.

The guy was working to plug this casm of a gap, but went about it the wrong way imo.

 

[Bungral]

UPDATE!!

Just added this article as an update.. Check it out here

 

[ojrules]

id say that creative or somewhere else should/will snatch him up pretty soon, and should probably offer him a job...

 

[Yeungster]

I expected this kind of response from Creative. It's the same kind of response you'd expect from any other large company trying to cover their backs, whilst trying to calm the situation down.

 

[PP Mguire]

I didnt read yalls posts so im sorry if i missed something but Creative has every right to do what they did. He was asking for donations for what he did which is completely breaking American law. Hes making money off of Creatives stuffs. Hypotheticaly lets say your Creative, would you want him making money off of your re-worked software? Prolly not.

Im looking at this in 2 ways (i try to look at everything at different angles in life).

1. If he had made these drivers, kept it that way, and didnt ask for money i dont think Creative would have had a problem like they stated.

2. I think Creative made it a public comment like that to indeed secure the fact of nobody doing it again. Sort of a threat saying you do this we will get our knickers in a wad and do somethign about it.

What i think was wrong was they where using their big corp name and made it a little to lethal. I think they could have worded it alot differently and made it more friendly. Something like hey yo, we dont mind you doing our dirty work for us (Because were lazy

s here at Creative) but just dont ask for money because thats illegal. Kapiche? Of course in a more professional manner.

My 0.02 on the matter. Maybe im missing something and somebody can enlighten me. Im tired :/

 

[nepas]

maybe the donations part was wrong,but it brought to light the fact that Creative had disabled things in Vista on purpose to make people upgrade and that the cards did not do what they said on the box(which is false advertising also illegal)

 

[PP Mguire]

No the Audigy series did what they said they would do in XP. Audigy was out before Vista. People need to realize this. So was X-FI. They just made "drivers" (If you want to call that crap drivers) for X-Fi and Vista. This guy just made everything work well on Vista but asked for donations. THat was his downfall.

 

[nepas]

everything worked under xp,but not with vista,but creative said that it did

 

[PP Mguire]

I never once read on an Audigy box that it was compatible with Vista.

 

[joner]

its all going pete thong for creative.

i will not buy another creative product.

 

[wigseryc]

I've recently purchased an Xtreme Music, and i couldn't be happier with it.