Amd hd 3d

[ugiboy]

Hey Guys, Are any members running AMD's 3D? I currently use Nvidia 3D vision but will be selling my GTX 590's in the next week or so because I have bought 3 x AMD7970's to replace them. My monitor is Acer GD245HQ 120Hz. I am wanting to know if any members know if this will work with AMD's version? I am aware I will need to have 3rd party software. I have searched AMD's website for supported monitors, but the list is very small and I feel sure that other monitors such as mine and many others will work? My understanding is that the basic requirements, monitor wise is 120Hz. i have also spent several hours on Google without finding any clear evidence of what will, or indeed will not work. Hence, the reason for this rather long winded post. Any advice, input greatly appreciated please. Cheers

 

[alienware]

Forget it. It's absolute crap with a capital C.

You're going to need to use Tridef Ignition and it's not very good at all. Firstly it doesn't work with multiple GPU set ups and secondly support is very poor indeed.

IIRC Tridef costs around $50 and you are at the mercy of them for updates and fixes. The last time I was using it I waited three months for a BF3 driver but they just said that BF3 wasn't going to work in 3D.

In the end I switched to Nvidia and ran a hack on my passive monitor and started using 3Dvision. The money and effort Nvidia have put into 3D really shows and it is light years ahead of Tridef.

If you need more information I would look here....

http://www.tridef.com/user-guide/ignition

But in my personal opinion if you like 3D and actually want to use it I would go for an Nvidia set up.

 

[SeekaX]

it's awful. but i think 3D is awful in general, at least until they do it without the need of glasses.

 

[ugiboy]

Thanks AlienALX, You've confirmed what I feared, looks like I will be better off selling the 7970's and sticking with 3DVision. Should have done more research before I purchased them. I am also going to be buying a "Smart 3D TV" in the next few weeks and I am wondering that if I connected my PC to that would the 2D to 3D upscaling work on my games & Blu-rays?

 

[alienware]

Thanks AlienALX, You've confirmed what I feared, looks like I will be better off selling the 7970's and sticking with 3DVision. Should have done more research before I purchased them. I am also going to be buying a "Smart 3D TV" in the next few weeks and I am wondering that if I connected my PC to that would the 2D to 3D upscaling work on my games & Blu-rays?

If the 3DTV is 1080p and passive (IE cinema) then you can find a EDID override that will allow you to use it with 3Dvision.

Basically in the early days of 3Dvision Nvidia added support for two passive screens. One was an Acer, the other a Zalman. All you do is basically force the driver for one of those onto your screen and provided the specs match (IE passive, 60hz 1080p) you can force it to work. I was using an LG passive 3d monitor as active gives me a headache..

If it's active and 120hz? you don't need any drivers as far as I'm aware. You just set your refresh rate to 120hz and you're away, as 3Dvision works on any 120hz monitor..

The one thing I found Tridef good at was its media package and how it can convert divx and so on into 3d. That was the best part ! it also converted regular DVDs into 3d. It was only the gaming part that was crap really.

I'm a big fan of 3D even though I accept it will never become mainstream (there are people with lazy eye that can't even see it) but I must admit my time in gaming in 3D was an absolute riot. Left 4 Dead is just absolutely bone crunchingly hilarious ! melee weapons and pipe bombs had me crying with laughter watching the arms and legs go flying everywhere :lol:

 

[ugiboy]

My 3D Vision works absolutely fine on my 120Hz Acer. I am going to do a lot more searching on Google with regards to AMD HD 3D & Eyefinity before I decide if I will use the 7970's I have bought or sell them & get 660ti's, 670's, 680's or even one single Titan? I have been looking at 3D Smart TV's and CNET seems to favour the Panasonic TC-PST50 series for Picture quality & best overall in their end of 2012 reviews. Not sure if they are passive or active but, I do like the look of them. I also need to look at Nvidia's multi monitor performances as I went round my mates the other night as he has got six monitors in eyefinity and gaming on them was awesome!

 

[alienware]

My 3D Vision works absolutely fine on my 120Hz Acer. I am going to do a lot more searching on Google with regards to AMD HD 3D & Eyefinity before I decide if I will use the 7970's I have bought or sell them & get 660ti's, 670's, 680's or even one single Titan? I have been looking at 3D Smart TV's and CNET seems to favour the Panasonic TC-PST50 series for Picture quality & best overall in their end of 2012 reviews. Not sure if they are passive or active but, I do like the look of them. I also need to look at Nvidia's multi monitor performances as I went round my mates the other night as he has got six monitors in eyefinity and gaming on them was awesome!

OK this could get a little long winded so bear with me !

Firstly with 3Dvision any of the set ups you mention will be fine tbh. You're better going SLI as 3D (as you know !) really batters your performance levels. I have only ever ran it on a 7970 (boak !) GTX 480 SLI (excellent) and a single 670. On AMD I lost so many frames that most games were unplayable. Switching to a pair of 480s really helped given that they are miles faster than any of the latest GPUs.

I would avoid Titan as it offers terrible £ to performance. For example a set of 670s can be had for (brb ! just checking :lol: )

http://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-GeF-GD...L3W0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362258575&sr=8-1

That much (quick equation...)

£577.94. Given they are around 20-40% faster than a Titan I'm sure you can see what I'm getting at. Nearly half the price of a Titan for more performance

Titan = Stupid...

Moving on. I wouldn't advise going three screens either. I have also used three screens (I always play Mythbusters with hardware dude, Quad SLI, Quadfire.. I've tried it all) because very few games actually support gaming on three screens and most need hacking and thus don't display properly. Remember - the main aim with any PC system is hassle free gaming without any crap and hurdles. Whilst three screen gaming can be fun for a while you'll soon tire of it and break the array down. I had mine going for about two months and in the end I had switched back to a single screen running 3D..

3D, IMO is about the best of these fad like technologies that have been released.

I'm not sure if you were thinking of combining both 3D and 3 screens but I can safely tell you now there is not a set up on earth powerful enough for such a system. Even GTX Titan in SLI struggles with Crysis 3 on 3 screens and that's without enabling 3dvision. It would be an epic slide show though I'll give you that much.

In summation for me 3 screen gaming was all about Dirt 2 and Dirt 3. Other than that? everything else was a pig to get running and Fallout 3 was plain broken (the hacking screen was impossible to make out as the words overlaid eachother, there was no fix )

I would stick with 3Dvision as your poison and go with a nice powerful SLI set up to make sure you get the FPS you need. Obviously a heavily loaded Crysis 3 is never going to run well in 3D but there are so many titles that do work well and go as fast as a ninja hamster in 3D.

 

[ugiboy]

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply and explain things so well, even I can understand them and that is saying something, cheers. I am definitely going to sell my GTX590's and most likely go for either 4 x 660ti's, 3 x 670's or a couple of 680's, I don't suppose you know anyone looking for three 7970's??? Thanks Again

 

[alienware]

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply and explain things so well, even I can understand them and that is saying something, cheers. I am definitely going to sell my GTX590's and most likely go for either 4 x 660ti's, 3 x 670's or a couple of 680's, I don't suppose you know anyone looking for three 7970's??? Thanks Again

I would avoid any set up that uses more than two GPUs. The fact is they are simply not supported by Nvidia. Now SLI with two cards? well, the secret to that lies in them making and selling the 690. But every time I have ever added more than two cores to the mix absolutely nothing worked. I did get BFBC2 to work with Quad SLI and Quadfire and it was actually very fast on the systems I set it up on (dual 3870x2 and GTX 295x2) but nothing else worked.

And the problem is you bring on issues that stop you being able to play a game at all. It's not just Nvidia who do not support 3 way and quad SLI but also the game developers themselves....

Have a read of this..

But in short (for those who can't be assed reading it) it basically shows how game developers hardly ever support SLI set ups, and when they do they never ever support more than two GPUs because they would have to release them as a separate version and the audience is so small they would never sell enough 'units' (aka games) to make it worthwhile.

It is possible to over ride a game's engine and force it to use more than one GPU but the only time you will ever find support for that is when the GPU maker in question has a willy waving card to protect (like the 690).

This has become really bad on AMD cards of late because AMD no longer have a top end willy waving card (7990) of their own and as such they don't really bother making sure Crossfire works all of the time. I read a write up recently about multiple GPU set ups (I'm sure it was on Bit-tech but can't find it !) that said that in testing SLI worked in 19 out of 20 games (and I'd bet on the one that didn't work being Far Cry 3 as that has only just been added) and 13 out of 20 games worked with Crossfire and scaled properly.

Either way just like 3D I would always use Nvidia for multiple GPU systems. Mostly because of what I said with the 690 (and them needing to make sure that it works so it will sell) and also because EVGA have stepped up to the plate due to them also wanting people to invest in SLI.

www.evga.com/sli is a very good app and I've been using it since I went SLI recently. I also used it back on my GTX 480 SLI set up.

But yeah, avoid 3 or 4 GPU set ups like a dose of the clap. They just don't work properly.

 

[ugiboy]

Read the article, thanks, will read it again and have a look on Google to see what others are saying. Sounds like you are a big fan of dual GPU's? To be honest I have had no trouble whatsoever with mine (Had them for getting on for a year) despite what the majority of forum members said which was, be prepared for trouble? In your opinion do you think I should stick with my 590's?

 

[alienware]

I'm a big fan of SLI yes. I ran Crossfire twice and swore never again. Even with the profiles sometimes games still wouldn't work and it was a set up that relied on it working in order to max out games (5770CF being the most recent).

I gave up in the end and bought a GTX 470.

I've tinkered with SLI a few times but since going 480 SLI last year (got them cheap brand new.. EVGA old stock) I'd use it any time now. Nvidia have really gotten stuck into it and got it sorted out.

Whether you should stick with the 590s? they're still immensely powerful cards tbh but as I've said you could count the titles that support quad SLI on one hand. I guess if they're not giving you any heat issues and you've had no problems with them then I would stick with them I guess. I must say I find Kepler to be very well behaved when it comes to heat and noise. I ran quad SLI with two single PCB 295s which are very similar in design to the 590. I didn't find them a problem when spaced apart but had no end of headaches with quad SLI. I guess when you have a card like the 590 it makes it harder to spot when quad SLI isn't doing what it should, where when you are relying on it and one 295 doesn't cut it it's far more noticeable.