Reloaded2
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I'm trying to hold back as long as I can for it. Maybe upgrade in 1.5-2 years.
Advice on RX 480
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I'm trying to hold back as long as I can for it. Maybe upgrade in 1.5-2 years.
NeverBackDown
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I'd probably get Zen now tbh. You've gotten your moneys worth 10x over really. That's just my opinion personally as you'd get a huge boost in performance coming to any new CPU. Also get new features and power efficiency. Nothing wrong holding on to it though. If you don't have/want to spend the money there's no harm in waiting. Just means you are getting more from your investment
BigDaddyKong
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Lol, I bet I might know that guy.
Reloaded2
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I'd probably get Zen now tbh. You've gotten your moneys worth 10x over really. That's just my opinion personally as you'd get a huge boost in performance coming to any new CPU. Also get new features and power efficiency. Nothing wrong holding on to it though. If you don't have/want to spend the money there's no harm in waiting. Just means you are getting more from your investment
Yea the only problem like you said is now I have no money left to invest into my PC as that money needs allocation elsewhere - that is why I'll wait for a while. Just out of curiosity, what kind of performance boost would I get with zen (or any newer CPU at that) anyways?
Tolemac
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AlienALX
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2500k OC is more than enough to match a 480. Perfect even
You would benefit from faster ram of course. I remember when Skylake launched they did a test VS the 2500k and 2600k and 2133 really improved the FPS in *some* games. Note I said some. I think that was also a large reason why Skylake seemed to be so much better than Haswell because of the improved ram speeds of DDR4.
Of course some games don't really care, so it's definitely not worth doing (upgrading your RAM) with prices like they are. Shame, because up until recently it only cost £40 or so and now it's pretty much doubled making it not worth it
You would benefit from faster ram of course. I remember when Skylake launched they did a test VS the 2500k and 2600k and 2133 really improved the FPS in *some* games. Note I said some. I think that was also a large reason why Skylake seemed to be so much better than Haswell because of the improved ram speeds of DDR4.
Of course some games don't really care, so it's definitely not worth doing (upgrading your RAM) with prices like they are. Shame, because up until recently it only cost £40 or so and now it's pretty much doubled making it not worth it
Reloaded2
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2500k OC is more than enough to match a 480. Perfect even
You would benefit from faster ram of course. I remember when Skylake launched they did a test VS the 2500k and 2600k and 2133 really improved the FPS in *some* games. Note I said some. I think that was also a large reason why Skylake seemed to be so much better than Haswell because of the improved ram speeds of DDR4.
Of course some games don't really care, so it's definitely not worth doing (upgrading your RAM) with prices like they are. Shame, because up until recently it only cost £40 or so and now it's pretty much doubled making it not worth it
Oh right okay! Yep its a shame prices went so high :mellow:. I have 16gb DDR3 anyways so I'll just last on that for a while.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
2500k OC is more than enough to match a 480. Perfect even
You would benefit from faster ram of course. I remember when Skylake launched they did a test VS the 2500k and 2600k and 2133 really improved the FPS in *some* games. Note I said some. I think that was also a large reason why Skylake seemed to be so much better than Haswell because of the improved ram speeds of DDR4.
Of course some games don't really care, so it's definitely not worth doing (upgrading your RAM) with prices like they are. Shame, because up until recently it only cost £40 or so and now it's pretty much doubled making it not worth it
He would get a substantial increase in performance. A 2500k won't bottleneck a 480, but the increase in CPU performance and the uplift from a newer architecture would be pretty noticeable. The gains won't come from the GPU, it would be all CPU. But since he doesn't have the money, there's no harm in not upgrading.
Another great post to help me along.
i too have been away from PC's for so long refreshers never hurt.
Well always using but never had the time to abuse like i used too, and all games where done on the Xbox but Luckily for me i felt these new console's have lost the flavor and direction. So My spark re lightened.
It's always been there just harder to find time due to irl work commitments, kid's etc.
But thing's are going well and plenty of time and new direction in my hand's.
New year, New start, New me and a New Rig. what more could i want ..... apart from monitor upgrade and etc and etc and etc Lmao.
Reloaded2
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Just a quick update: I've purchased the XFX card but the delivery has been delayed until the 20th February so I'll have to wait until then to test and OC the card. Once I receive it and OC and test temps and power usage I'll update you all again on what I got and if it's worth changing it for the Nitro+
AlienALX
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I think you misunderstood dude. When Skylake was tested VS Sandybridge it was up to 30% faster in some scenarios. However, it was then deciphered that the reason it was so much faster was because of the speed of the RAM. Stick 2133 ram into a Sandy and that gap closed to 15% absolute tops.
Now given Kaby is no faster than Skylake IPC/clock per clock then it could well be that the hairy mouth breather has used 1600mhz DDR3 in the test rig. I studied the article about as well as I could and he made no mention to ram speed whatsoever.
In other words that article makes Kaby look a lot better than it actually is. Sound familiar?
Ivy comes out - people complain it's only up to 5% faster than Sandy.
Haswell comes out, people complain it's only about 8% faster than Sandy.
DC comes out - people complain that it's no faster than Haswell it just clocks a tiny bit better, but nowhere near the 5ghz Intel promised.
Skylake comes out *yawn*.
Then Kaby comes along right before AMD are about to release Zen and all of a sudden this "tick" is amazing, does 5ghz, pees all over Sandy etc etc.
No dude, just, no. Honestly there's an article in a magazine that just makes me want to spew. Going on and on about how incredible it is that you can actually run an actual CPU at 5ghz. Completely dismissing the fact that I did that with a £105 CPU about three years ago.
Now look, I am not saying Intel have coerced any one into actually writing these articles. They don't need to. Intel treat you right *if* you treat them right. So yeah, let's just say there is an awful lot of back scratching going on between them and their vendors and reviewers etc. Another example, Custom PC (the mag I read) constantly shows pictures of Intel ES and even sometimes in reviews they show the ES version rather than the retail version. They're probably doing it to show off, or, because they get it all for free.
I'm not saying Kaby is bad I just want to know why all of a sudden Kaby does what they promised with Devil's Canyon (5ghz) and is the same IPC as Skylake (so just as disppointing in the % increase over last gen) yet all of a sudden it's awesome, not just another tick.
IMO Intel are trying to make all of the sales they can with their CPUs at the prices they have them at now because they know Ryzen is coming. The only part of the hairy mouth breather article I agreed on was right at the end where he said wait for Ryzen before you make a decision.
However, at that point in time any one who doesn't really like AMD and wouldn't buy them no matter how cheap they were had already made up their mind.
EDIT.
Well apparently he has used 2400mhz ram. I really didn't want to read the entire article.
I would like to know how Kaby is so much better than Skylake, then.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...it-finally-time-to-upgrade-your-core-i5-2500k
If you look at their benchmarks the lowest FPS they got was with Witcher 3 and that was 86.4 FPS. They also mention that the perfect pairing for a CPU such as the 2500k is a 970 which is pretty much level with a 480 really.
So I don't see any reason there to upgrade to Kaby, especially with that GPU.
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
You can drop the Intel rage stuff.
Thing is, whatever you feel gives it a performance boost, he's still getting a large increase in performance to ANY new CPU like we were talking about.
Thing is, whatever you feel gives it a performance boost, he's still getting a large increase in performance to ANY new CPU like we were talking about.
AlienALX
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Yup. You go from 80 to 100 FPS. Which of course doesn't matter because you would have to be Superman to tell the difference. The part of the spectrum where you do see it is at the minimums, and the 2500k is still more than enough to deliver smooth frame rates.
Let me put it like this. Is a Titan XP or 1080 an upgrade to a Fury X or Titan XM? yes, of course it is. Do I need either of those to enjoy games at 1440p? no, not really.
I've never been a FPS train spotter dude. I don't run overlays or apps, nor do I care unless I can actually see that there is a problem. It's a much, much happier way to live life tbh.
That is probably why it will be a decade before I actually NEED to upgrade my CPU. Which of course leaves me free to enjoy other things
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
I personally can't stand it. Makes no sense to me. I use AB. Have it load with windows, but stay in the system tray. Don't even notice it and doesn't change my bootup times. There are guides online on how to use the Wattman, but too much effort to me personally to try and learn it when I already know AB.
Alien,
What is your point? He would still see a large increase in performance. That's all he was asking. I also said with a 2500k he's still fine. You're just going on and on for nothing here?
g0ggles1994
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Where did you buy it from? I've ordered one to be delivered on monday from OCUK
NickOmega
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They also have them on Aria, but I think they're more expensive
Edit: NVM they're listed for pre-order
AlienALX
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What clocks does it run?
From what I have seen there is no black edition in the UK but we seem to have a card called an "RS".
g0ggles1994
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The RS version is the cheaper cooler which is clocked to 1288MHz (I think)
The GTR has the bigger cooler and is clocked to 1288MHz as well
The GTR Black edition is the same as the GTR except it's clocked to 1388MHz
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