A new SSD for me !

[alienware]

Step - definitely yes. IIRC on RAID 0 you will see a 20% improvement over one AT BEST. In most cases about 5%. SSD will pee on a moving parts drive hands down every time.

Rog. Some one on OCUK had already let the cat out of the bag that this drive is easily sorted before I even had

I wouldn't have bothered stating benches and etc had they not.

It is a great value drive, but with things being cut so hard (IE that Kingston) it might not be a killer bargain for long. The sensible side of me says wait. Wait until Intel come up with their new tech. Apparently we could be seeing 80gb drives by Christmas for £90 or so. However, no doubt they'll still have the terrible 40mbps write speeds.

Mind you let's face it, less than £80 all in for a drive like this isn't exactly millions of pounds, even for some one like me.

 

[Junglerog]

Well that model reviewed by you guys is V+, I guess I will google for some reviews about V version. If wont find anything I guess it is patriot for me.

Stepster...I am immune to knowledge it seems...I went through all that edit my profile stuff....I still cannot find it.

 

[thestepster]

yeah good point i went and looked for it and i cant find it either but id just edit my sig with system specs but i dont need to as they are in my cpu-z link there

 

[Junglerog]

OK guys, I goggled and I know I should not put links to other review websites so I wont of course but it is going to be Kingston for me.

Will be delivered on Friday..I will post some screen shots.

 

[alienware]

I was meaning to post this earlier but I got my balls trapped in my build. What a bleeding slag of a build. Any way.

Step 1. Boot the PC with Windows running on your regular drive. Patriot MUST be secondary.

Step 2. Wait for Windows to finish picking up the drive. When done move to step 3.

Step 3. Run the bios flashing app. MAKE SURE you pick the Patriot drive as the app is indiscriminate and will destroy any drives you tell it to flash. WAIT. The flash takes about three minutes.

Step 4. This is where I got confused, but, when it's done and it tells you to pull the power it means on the Patriot. YOU MUST pull the power before rebooting Windows. If you do not the drive will not lock properly and you will have nightmares. So pull the power, SHUT DOWN (don't restart !) put the power back in and cold boot. As you do the drive will show in bios and you will see the firmware version.

Step 5. Set the drive up in Drive manager and create a simple volume. DO NOT format it. Go to my computer, right click the drive, select format and make sure you set the cluster size to 32k. If not your drive will be slower. Format it, bench it, make sure it's all cooshty then format it again (32kb cluster) and REINSTALL Windows. DO NOT clone a moving parts drive to it as the entire TRIM process is all done during install and won't happen after.

Rog. I really hope that V series isn't a bog slow drive mate.

 

[thestepster]

cheers for the wee guide mate havent dealt with an ssd so its gonnna be a great help!

drice manager? i mean disk management?

 

[alienware]

Yeah disk management. Same thing

 

[Junglerog]

No more P-100 for £70. New price on overclockers, I wonder if your superior comments regarding this drive had to do sth with it AlienALX

.

 

[hmmblah]

DO NOT clone a moving parts drive to it as the entire TRIM process is all done during install and won't happen after.

First time I have heard this. TRIM constantly works...not just on install. Can you elaborate?

 

[alienware]

First time I have heard this. TRIM constantly works...not just on install. Can you elaborate?

Yup. When I flashed the firmware on my Corsair X32 to TRIM support I reimaged back afterward (using Acronis). I ran the command in cmd as admin.. The disablenotify one. I got the message that TRIM was being sent, cool ! that means it's working right? no. All it means is the command is being sent.

Any way a few weeks later I began to notice my boot times were cack. So I ran ATTO and my disk was doing about 1/3 of its specced speeds.

Now with the Corsair the bios flash is not destructive, but I just wanted to make sure. Turns out TRIM just wasn't working.

I read about TRIM in a custom PC a few months back and it confirmed my suspcicions. TRIM only truly works when you install 7 onto a SSD as a fresh install. Apparently all of the stuff it needs to work are done there. So, for example, it will automatically disable Defrag and so on as it knows it's an SSD.

Now I read that this could be down to the storage controller driver being different and needing to be changed in Windows, but I have read 0 success stories of doing that.

Now obviously I am not 10000000% sure that that's what is going on and it could even be specifically Acronis that does this, but I just know that it took me a clean reinstall to see consistent TRIM type results. It simply wasn't working before even thought he disabledeletenotify or whatever it was called said it was.

Sadly other than doing the DDN thing in command there is no real way that I have found to absolutely guarantee TRIM is definitely working and doing what it should. Well, apart from using Win7 for a couple of months and seeing if it crawls like treacle.

Best to just reinstall from scratch (IMO of course) just to make 100% sure.

No more P-100 for £70. New price on overclockers, I wonder if your superior comments regarding this drive had to do sth with it AlienALX

.

As I said dude it wasn't me who let the cat out of the bag. They have obviously looked into it themselves.

Any way, don't cry my love, have a look here.

http://www.tekheads.co.uk/product/Patriot-25inch-PS-100-64GB-Solid-State-Drive-SSD_34211.html

But to be completely honest bargains are there for the taking and need to be jumped on. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose tbh.

16 in stock @ £69. Seems dickheads Tekheads had trouble shifting them too. Now run Forrest, Run !!

BTW as for the Dickheads thing.. Just messing around. I've never used them before but Tekheads just sounded too much like Dickheads to me.

 

[Junglerog]

Kingston arrived a day earlier, thanks ebuyer.com

.

Some results as promised:



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And they said up to 200Mb/sec write on the box

.

Very pleased with the drive.

 

[alienware]

Nice

Got a good bargain there.

 

[Junglerog]

Thank you mate. I must say I have not expected such performance increase...its absolutely crazy. Gotta love SSD.

 

[alienware]

Yup. It's incredible how many people throw £400+ at a machine and negate SSD, then say "well it doesn't seem any faster than before".

SSD = most important upgrade ever. The only thing I can remember that made anywhere near as much difference ever was when broadband came along and pooed on dialup.

Rog. Also, you may find this of use. how to get back at least 8gb of your drive.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/disable-system-restore-in-windows-vista/

Use Acronis or similar and send the image somewhere safe (away from the main drive).

And then do this.

http://www.windows7hacker.com/index...delete-in-windows-7-free-up-hard-drive-space/

 

[Junglerog]

That's quite useful, thank you, I check these links out . To be honest 64gb is quite enough for me. All I need is system, my work applications and 1 game(approx 11gb) I play for last 6 years.

 

[alienware]

hiberfil.sys is 3.4gb IIRC. System restore? well it just continues to grow. And, it's useless. Windows is pretty damn stable now and the only time you would ever want to use system restore would be in a virii situ. Sadly it's so crap that every virus simply infects all the restore points

Acronis and others are far better, as you can send the image elsewhere (off of the boot drive so it's really safe) and restore from a boot cd.

 

[killablade]

In the Netherlands, the PS-100 64GB is only available at one store, and it costs €160.

 

[AMDFTW]

that hiberfile did nothing for me i mean it took no space off my C drive

 

[alienware]

that hiberfile did nothing for me i mean it took no space off my C drive

You sure you did it properly? Hiberfil.sys, not file. And you need to reboot to see the change dude.