£600 gaming build for a friend!

[alienware]

The point I'm trying to make is, there's no point in recommending a rig that's £100+ over budget. The budget is £600, £100 For an OS. I know that that £500 These days is nothing, and that he/she could do a lot better with more, but that's what the thread maker has to spend, so suggesting parts that are over budget is pointless.

I'm not sure why you are being so rigid. Good advice is to wait a bit longer and save up the extra and go with the Z77 / 7870 LE rig.

I think you will find that's why so many people are agreeing with that.

And in all honesty, I know I talk a lot, so please do forgive me if I'm being rude, but I can't quite understand your logic. You said an i3 is "Bests suited to a 7850" I'm not sure I follow you.. Would you explain? How are you thinking that an Intel Core i3 3220/3225 CPU is going to hold back a 7870 GPU?

A I3 will hold back a 7870 LE, yes. The 7870 LE is a high end very fast GPU and in gaming most if not all of the new games support 4 CPU cores. The I3 has two with Hyperthreading which is no substitute for four physical cores.

Core count can be offset by high clock speeds but there isn't an I3 on earth that can be overclocked that fits in a 1155 socket. Given how lame the core speeds are on the I3 chips I can assure you that when you start playing games that are very CPU intensive it will stop the 7870 LE from stretching its legs.

Hence why I said that the 7850 was a good card to pair up with the I3 as then you can wring every bit of performance out of both. That's opposed to putting a high end powerful GPU with a mismatched CPU like the one you are advising he get and then seeing the GPU suffer because of it.

The fact that you seem to be the only one suggesting that system speaks volumes. It's probably because you know? every one else has a good valid point and you are quite possibly wrong.

 

[SuperFly]

I'm not sure why you are being so rigid. Good advice is to wait a bit longer and save up the extra and go with the Z77 / 7870 LE rig.

I think you will find that's why so many people are agreeing with that.



A I3 will hold back a 7870 LE, yes. The 7870 LE is a high end very fast GPU and in gaming most if not all of the new games support 4 CPU cores. The I3 has two with Hyperthreading which is no substitute for four physical cores.

Core count can be offset by high clock speeds but there isn't an I3 on earth that can be overclocked that fits in a 1155 socket. Given how lame the core speeds are on the I3 chips I can assure you that when you start playing games that are very CPU intensive it will stop the 7870 LE from stretching its legs.

Hence why I said that the 7850 was a good card to pair up with the I3 as then you can wring every bit of performance out of both. That's opposed to putting a high end powerful GPU with a mismatched CPU like the one you are advising he get and then seeing the GPU suffer because of it.

The fact that you seem to be the only one suggesting that system speaks volumes. It's probably because you know? every one else has a good valid point and you are quite possibly wrong.

Haha right okay, I'm wrong. You can call me wrong as many times as you like if it will make you feel better. Games today barely utilize 2 Cores, so I don't know where you're getting your information about needing 4 Cores. All your talk about CPU>GPU is also irrelevant, Gaming = GPU, nothing else. It doesn't matter if you have a Dual, Quad or Six Core CPU. Not to say you can get away with a Pentium CPU and a GTX 690, but you get the point.

In all honestly, I don't know why you're trying so hard to prove yourself.. After all, we're just trying to help the thread maker. Fact is that what you're saying is invalid, and therefore pointless. How much money the user has is unknown and irrelevant. The Thread said a budget of £600, so saying wait until the person has more is pointless. And whilst we're on the subject of pointless things, even if the users friend had more money, apart from just wanting it, he/she will not benefit at all from an i5-3570k and a Z77 Motherboard. You can say all you want, that's a fact. The only advantage in gaming an i5 has over an i3 is the HD 4000 Graphics. And a Z77 is only better if you want to overclock.

 

[alienware]

I assume you've never played BF3 or Crysis 3 then.

If you want to argue I suggest Youtube. Plenty of planks to argue with there.

 

[SuperFly]

I assume you don't know much about Computer Gaming then.

No need for YouTube when I have you on here. But you're more than welcome to.

And fyi, I haven't said I want to argue. If that's what you've interpreted from reading my posts that's your fault I'm afraid.

 

[RadeonHDx]

Thanks for all of the reply's (wasn't really expecting so many people)
I'm gonna have to talk it round with him but I'm sure I can get him to put the tiny bit more money into the rig if I tell him how much more he will save by him not having to upgrade it in a year!
And also he was hoping that I could do some small overclocking for him. Anyone know what the CM Evo 212 can do for the 3570k?

Thanks to you all again!

 

[Cru]

Thanks for all of the reply's (wasn't really expecting so many people)
I'm gonna have to talk it round with him but I'm sure I can get him to put the tiny bit more money into the rig if I tell him how much more he will save by him not having to upgrade it in a year!
And also he was hoping that I could do some small overclocking for him. Anyone know what the CM Evo 212 can do for the 3570k?

Thanks to you all again!

4.2 should be possible, maybe even 4.4

 

[RadeonHDx]

Well I don't think he really even knows what overclocking is so I'm sure that'll be great!

 

[SuperFly]

Thanks for all of the reply's (wasn't really expecting so many people)
I'm gonna have to talk it round with him but I'm sure I can get him to put the tiny bit more money into the rig if I tell him how much more he will save by him not having to upgrade it in a year!
And also he was hoping that I could do some small overclocking for him. Anyone know what the CM Evo 212 can do for the 3570k?

Thanks to you all again!

Hey there
Firstly, it's not a "Little" it's at least £100 more. And if you're going to do that you might as well save up all year to buy a Six Core i7/Titan, because frankly as Cru3 has said Gaming today needs 4 Cores(Which frankly is as true as Hitler loved Jews) so I wouldn't want to only have 4 Cores.

And secondly if you/your friend don't care much for sensibility or wasting money, then I can't urge you enough to buy a pointless i5-3570k, but after all it's only money, who needs that right? I'm a huge fan of TTL an Tom Logan, such a funny awesome guy, however some of the people on this Forum seem to not know a clue about computers. I'd recommend you visit (Tech-Forums.net) or (Linustechtips.com) If you want actual advice.

I have no clue on Earth where people here are getting their "Information" From, however I'll bet you my sister that if anything happens at all there's a higher chance of your friend winning the Lottery rather than having to buy a new CPU because it malfunctioned. And we all know the odds of winning the lottery.

Faith in Tech Humanity>Doomed.

But to answer, yes a CM Hyper 212 Evo will be fine for light overclocking.

 

[s3ns3]

budget build...b75 board + non k i5.i5 3350P or i5 3470

you can also stick to the first plan the fx 6300 is better then i3 .very good with a 7870 xt

 

[seumasbeathan]

Here is a good solution, go for the 3570k build with the 7870 LE, but instead of Win 7 get 8, just as good and should save you a good £40-£50, and as you won't have an SSD, the extra speed from Win 8 will be nice

 

[Roooker]

If you dont overclock just get the 3470. It will not bottleneck the gpu or anything.