Wraith
Bettyswollocks
I never said it "doesn't work" those programs are great for monitoring or roughing out an overclock before taking it to the bios for tighter more precise control.
5820K or 6700K
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AlienALX
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You didn't answer my question.
What is the difference between pressing delete and going into your UEFI or using a piece of software that basically displays your bios in Windows and does exactly the same thing?
I'll answer that for you - nothing.
Years ago you totally had a point. Overclocking in Windows was buggy and terribly unstable. However, since UEFI things have really changed. It really is as simple as loading up an app, inputting a figure, adding voltage and pressing "apply".
In fact, using Afterburner as a reference it's absolutely no different.
AISuite3 still can't even apply fan profiles as well as the BIOS so I wouldn't have much confidence in using it to tweak the CPU. It is adjusted to make it feel easier and friendlier and compromises are made but without the skills to truly understand every last detail of the BIOS it's indifferent I guess.
JR
Kilbane
Hagrid Look-A-Like
The long and the short of it is simple. Software based overclocking solutions are designed to take advantage of what you have asked it to do. For example, the software is more often then not told that once you apply say 15% OC to the chip via multiplier and voltage increases, there are several subsidiary voltages and ratios that should be altered. The software will change these automatically for you, this gives a sense of achievement when ultimately the software is still adding changes you did not make.
You have experienced this yourself, you said that you lost 200Mhz by trying to OC in the BIOS. This was not because the BIOS is worse or less stable to OC in, but in fact the software would have "Held your hand" in the process of overclocking.
AlienALX
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All you need to do is type in a frequency (well, a multi, so let's use 44 as an example) then add a safe voltage (that you had fully researched or asked about somewhere) and hit apply. It really is that simple.
And that is all that matters. You really don't need to enter the bios just to do that, and to some one who had no idea how to overclock typing in two figures and pressing a button is about as easy as it gets.
I spent three evenings studying and researching overclocking with a 3970x and MSI BBXPII. I read about calibrations, voltage, NB voltage, strap, multi etc etc. And after all of that I managed 3.78ghz going the complicated route.
I then saved that as a profile, and just for a laugh added 49 as a multi with 1.45v. I then hit apply and guess what? it was fully bench stable.
After my 3970x I bought a 5820k. Again I sat down and read about as much info as I could find. I typed 46 into the multi box, added 1.2v and hit apply. Wasn;t fully stable so I turned a software knob around a tiny bit more, bingo bongo ! 4.6ghz.
I've seen people wrestle with a 5820k for weeks trying to achieve those clocks.
So as I said, on Intel CPUs these days it really is just upping the multi and adding volts as you go. On Intel that is the way that both my 3970x and 5820k responded the best to overclocking.
The fact that the software now works with the UEFI means that it really is as simple as loading up an app, typing in a multi + volts and hitting apply. And as much as I would like to make it sound more complicated (because obviously more complicated = more fun) it really isn't.
And I only stumbled on that per chance because I had a good dig through the software for my PC. Turns out that because the software these days can work so well there was no need to give you access to it in bios, given that with UEFI they are one and the same.
See my post above for an example. That including ring voltages and god knows what else.
You and Wraith are making something which can be done very simply sound incredibly complicated.
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