5820K or 6700K

Thought's on this? I will be upgrading at some point in the next few months and not sure where to go with this, I'm looking at overclocked motherboard bundles on overclockers. I use my system for gaming, streaming and sometimes video rendering. From what I can see the 5820k system is better so why the cheaper price?

So..... Intel Core i7 5820K @ 3.80GHz, Team Group Elite 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C16 2400MHz Quad Channel Kit, Gigabyte X99-SLI Intel X99 (Socket 2011) DDR4 ATX Motherboard, Asetek 570LXL 240mm High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler.

£653.84

Or..... Intel Core i7 6700K @ 4.60GHz, Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit, Asetek 570LX 240mm High Performance CPU Cooler, MSI Z170A Gaming M5 Intel Z97 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard.

£732.61
 
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Yeah the pricing on the 5820 is very strange ATM, it is a great deal.

Will you be overclocking yourself or just using pre-done bundles? If you OC the 5820 you should come out with a lot more performance if you have good cooling.

When it comes to per core performance Skylake is king ATM, especially given how reliably you can get 4.7+GHz from them. Haswell-E won't get that high unless you are lucky, especially with the 5820K.
 
The bundles are already overclocked, I don't know how to do it, 5820 is at 3.8 6700 is at 4.6, 5820 is hex core though so I don't know which to go for?
 
If you are going to be rendering then the 5820 is a no brainer and if you decide later as was told to me to update your CPU you are less likely to need a new board too
 
Go for the 5820k bundle and OC it. Better in the long term and given its price. The ram on the 5820k bundle is slower and is comprised of 4x4GB modules as opposed to 2x8GB.

Thr board is also not as good as the gaming 5. Not a big fan of the Gigabyte x99 boards TBH.

Overall given the price go for the 5820k regardless.
 
Not a significant difference for regular use.

Memory isnt all that expensive anyways. So you could always sell it off and grab a better kit.
 
An average 5820k can do around 4.5ghz. Obviously it isnt guaranteed, however chances are your chip will be able to.

Unless overclockers are selling chips that they know arent able to do so and selling them off cheaper. But if the bundle comes sealed in a box chances are its not the case.

My 5930k can do around 4.9@ 1.4v bench stable but not for some programs. Ive also built many systems with the 5930k and 5820k though not all needed to be overclocked. When I did though they all acheived 4.4+ with a max of 1.3v
 
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The included AIO would be decent enough to keep it cool so there wouldnt be an additional cost associated with overclocking it unless you are worried about power consumption.

There are plenty of guides around to assist you with thr overclock.

If you just cant be bothered then go for the 6700k which will be faster out of box games etc that wont use the 5820Ks capabilitues.
 
Well to get one overclocked past 4ghz costs a whole lot more and I don't know how to do it myself. :(

There should be a software app available for the board which will let you do it about as easily as it gets. Just move a slider up for the clocks and another one for the voltage. Then bench, and see how hot/stable it is.
 
Well to get one overclocked past 4ghz costs a whole lot more and I don't know how to do it myself. :(

You could always overclock it yourself, It honestly isn't rocket science.

Up the multi, Test it, If it's not stable, Add a few volts, Test again, Rinse and repeat.

Honestly very easy and plenty of people on here willing to help :)
 
There should be a software app available for the board which will let you do it about as easily as it gets. Just move a slider up for the clocks and another one for the voltage. Then bench, and see how hot/stable it is.

Just don't do this. Software overclocking is foolish on a small overclock let alone trying to push an extra 20% over stock. Always overclock manually, you remain in control and are less likely to do any form of damage by over volting etc.
 
Just don't do this. Software overclocking is foolish on a small overclock let alone trying to push an extra 20% over stock. Always overclock manually, you remain in control and are less likely to do any form of damage by over volting etc.

You do realise that the software simply taps into the UEFI, right? so it's basically exactly the same as overclocking via bios. In fact all you are doing is accessing bios from Windows.

Have you tried that lately? because with my PC the only way to overclock is via software in Windows as none of it shows up in bios.
 
You do realise that the software simply taps into the UEFI, right? so it's basically exactly the same as overclocking via bios. In fact all you are doing is accessing bios from Windows.

Have you tried that lately? because with my PC the only way to overclock is via software in Windows as none of it shows up in bios.
That's all well and good but you have a Dell Alienware system and we all know that they have borked locked Bios, when you hand craft a system you have absolute control and access then when it comes to Overclocking you use the Bios never OC a CPU from software (every one knows that).
 
That's all well and good but you have a Dell Alienware system and we all know that they have borked locked Bios, when you hand craft a system you have absolute control and access then when it comes to Overclocking you use the Bios never OC a CPU from software (every one knows that).

I don't have a borked locked bios. How do you know any way? do you have a modern Alienware? speaking from experience are you?

MSI provide a software app called Clickbios. It does what I said, accesses your bios through Windows with a very simple interface. IIRC Asrock have a similar deal too.

They've done that since Z77.

Please explain to me the difference from overclocking in bios, or overclocking with a piece of software that simply displays your bios in Windows.

One "borked locked bios with full voltage, FSB and multiplier control"



Edit. Just checked and Asus make something called AI Suite 3.

Given you have both taken me out of context (and are both wrong, but any way) and I hate that more than anything I was simply telling the OP how easy it is to overclock these days. You simply open a piece of software, input a multiplier, add some voltage and hit apply. From the sound of it the OP finds overclocking in bios complicated and therefore does not do it.

However, overclocking is not the fine art it used to be and since Sandy all you really need to do is up the multi, add volts and click apply. Then simply run a benchmark and see if it's stable.

Going the complicated route on my 3970x lost me 200mhz I got from simply doing the above.
 
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If you are to overclock you always use the Bios, simple as! The inherent risk of software overclocking is software crashes, running a piece of software within an API/OS environment is never going to be 100% on the ball and we all know you only ever tweak voltages, multipliers or buses from within the bios while the hardware is under minimal idle load with zero driver initiation (you never change your shoes while driving), yes I've experience with Dell, Alienware, HP, Lenovo and many more I repair and clean systems for a living ;)
 
If you are to overclock you always use the Bios, simple as! The inherent risk of software overclocking is software crashes, running a piece of software within an API/OS environment is never going to be 100% on the ball and we all know you only ever tweak voltages, multipliers or buses from within the bios while the hardware is under minimal idle load with zero driver initiation (you never change your shoes while driving), yes I've experience with Dell, Alienware, HP, Lenovo and many more I repair and clean systems for a living ;)

Thanks for your wisdom.

I shall stop using Afterburner and EVGA Precision X at once and go back to full bios editing to overclock my GPUs because software doesn't work.
 
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