3d printed delid tool worth the risk???

steverebo said:
If I was to leave the old glue on the pcb and just clean the IHS would it reglue under the pressure and heat?
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Sorry, but i think you are missing the point. The glue is the problem.

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Without the glue the gap between the IHS and DIE is smaller = Less TIM = Better heat transfer. The Intel TIM is no longer the problem.
 
I didn't think that was a problem with kaby lake only with previous generations and that the IHS is already extremely close to the chip
 
I did the vice method when I did the delid on my 4790k which is in my dads pc, dropped the temps quite abit with Liquid Metal.

Personally if I was going to delid my 6700K I would be buying the one from overclockers, as I just don't trust the ones that you can buy of ebay for dirt cheap.

Yes it's about £30 of overclockers the last time I checked but £30 for piece of mind that you have a decent tool, and also can use it if you want to glue the ihs back down is a win to me.
 
It's 0,06mm. But it still makes a difference.
Just put the IHS back on, and then glue on the outside.
A drop in each corner is enough. But do it the whole way if you wan't to be sure.

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I haven't done it jet. But read that the gel type is the best, as it's not running away :)

I can update sometime friday, as i'm rebuilding my PC there, and a razor delid is part of that :)
 
WYP said:
Please do not use the vice method. The IHS on Skylake and Kaby Lake are thinner than previous generation Intel parts, so it is much more prone to damage.

This is one of the main reasons why dedicated delidding tools have become so popular.
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He isnt going to use the vice method like you are thinking. He is going to place the cpu in the delidder and then place the delidder inside the vice to compress the two pieces together. At least that was my assumption.
 
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The glue you need needs to be flexible. Intel use some kind of mastick, which is like a more solid silicone. It allows the whole thing to flex and move. If you want to glue it back on do some Googling. Brendan (Mad Dutch Dude) used to delid for free on another forum and glue them back on. Do you want me to ask him what he used?
 
Most people I know who've delided don't glue the IHS back on and just rely on the CPU socket clamp to hold it firmly in place... just a thought?
 
I have delidded 16 different CPUs now and own the delid tool. The main reason to delid is to remove the TIM from the die and replace it with more heat conductive paste to ensure a better connection between die and IHS. Intels thermal paste is ok but its certainly not great and isnt always applied so well.

I have used the razer blade method on a couple of 7700k cpus and the delid die mate on 3 others. The vice method is no longer safe as the circuit board is too thin now. The razer blade method is fairly easy if you just take your time and do it slowly making small cuts and without scratching the pcb. When it comes off remove the TIM with alcohol and scrape the glue off with your finger or the side of a credit card. Do it slowly.

I always replace the tim with liquid metal or conductonaut but make sure you mask everything else but the core as liquid metal flies out sometimes and its a bitch to get off.

You dont need to reglue the IHS if you dont want. I use 3M™ Black Super Weatherstrip Adhesive and clamp it together for at least 24hrs to make sure that its a rock solid.

In my experience the Glue on the IHS makes very little difference. The biggest problem is that Intels method of applying cheaper TIM to the die is often a bit hit and miss. I have seen great variance between cores of up to 9c on load thats fixed when the TIM is applied properly. The average percentage drop i have seen after delidding is between 7c and about 22c on full load on prime.
 
Cheers guys for all the help. I'm using a 3D printed delid tool in a vice which I am hoping is the safest option and I'm using thermal grizzly liquid metal on the die and kryonaoght on the IHS.

Fingers crossed I don't kill it

AlienALX said:
Just asked him now. He's on U.S time so he will answer later :)
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Thanks that would be great.
 
steverebo said:
Cheers guys for all the help. I'm using a 3D printed delid tool in a vice which I am hoping is the safest option and I'm using thermal grizzly liquid metal on the die and kryonaoght on the IHS.

Fingers crossed I don't kill it



Thanks that would be great.
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Let us know how it goes with the 3d printed tool. You will be fine.
 
Forget everything i said about the Razor thing. I chickend out.:nutkick:
After 10-15 min of only scratching the side of the IHS, i gave up. :banghead:

Have to figure out if i will give it another go, or give up and buy a tool :mellow:
 
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